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Old 12-23-2023, 12:24 PM
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Anyone have any winter tires?

Looking for a set. Just picked up my new to me 2019 e63s wagon and it’s got summers on. Getting a weird tie rod like feeling when I turn and I’m thinking it’s the summers.

thought I’d ask here first. I’m in NJ.

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I haz all the dad cars - R63 AMG, 2022 GLB 250, and a 2018 E63 Wagon.
I have a set I don’t need but I’m located in Portland, OR. They are sitting with my wheel guy but if you are interested in covering shipping I can go grab them from his shop. They don’t have a ton of miles on them but I’m not sure if shipping costs would make it worth it to you.
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Originally Posted by alexzaky
Looking for a set. Just picked up my new to me 2019 e63s wagon and it’s got summers on. Getting a weird tie rod like feeling when I turn and I’m thinking it’s the summers.

thought I’d ask here first. I’m in NJ.
You might consider a set of Michelin PS/4 AS instead. Unless you will be driving in deep snow conditions, dedicated winters are probably not needed. The problem with winters is that they will wear excessively once the temps get above 50. I found that switching from PS/4 summers to all-seasons quieted the ride and gave up little in steering response. Since you have a pre-FL wagon, every incremental noise reduction and tire flexibility will be appreciated.
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it's December in NJ. you def. need decent winter tires, or else, you will trash those summers tires in no time.
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I have both PS AS 4 and Alpine 5 winter tires. I agree that PS 4 AS are close to summers tires. However they get very slippery on ice. I live in NYC coast, so we are getting more freezing after rain & flooding these days then snow. Alpine 5 UHP is not that responsive as PS4 AS, but they are not wearing excessively either unless you drive in summer temps. CrossClimate 2 all weather AS is closer to Alpine 5 winters...







Tiretrack winter test is similar, which is missing the winter tire:
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests...r.jsp?ttid=270

Tiretrack tests are done in the same track loop, so putting the stopping distances with same car gives a good comparison:


Originally Posted by HBerman
You might consider a set of Michelin PS/4 AS instead. Unless you will be driving in deep snow conditions, dedicated winters are probably not needed. The problem with winters is that they will wear excessively once the temps get above 50. I found that switching from PS/4 summers to all-seasons quieted the ride and gave up little in steering response. Since you have a pre-FL wagon, every incremental noise reduction and tire flexibility will be appreciated.
Yes, summer tires below 40F is not recommended:
https://www.pca.org/sites/default/fi...r-TTW-2018.pdf



This is reported on the service bulletin from GM as the tire cracks happened during even transportation of GM cars:
https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/20...82862-5448.pdf

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it's December in NJ. you def. need decent winter tires, or else, you will trash those summers tires in no time.
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If the wagon is a DD, then the dedicated winters could be indicated. However, there is a problem in getting winter tires in the OEM sizes. PA4's are no longer available and Cross-Climates are not made in the OEM size. I've lived in Westchester County and I never drove on freezing rain or snow. There are enough crazy drivers on the road who can't drive in the rain let alone freezing weather.

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