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I'd like to know if camber bolts can help take out some of the negative camber that seems to be eating up my tires? The FEBEST 1629-204 page lists compatibility with "MERCEDES BENZ E 63 AMG S-MODELL 4MATIC 213.#", and other pages list the MOOG K90474 and the ACDelco 45K18036 as compatible with W213. I've read all the threads about KMAC bushings and various F1-Fab/TheCamberKing aftermarket parts, but I'd just like to know if these camber bolts can provide a little help? Has anyone here tried them?
My 2018 E 63 S 4Matic+ wagon destroys tires - both front and rear. The inside of the tires wears very heavily while the outside of the tire basically shows little or no wear whatsoever. I've had the dealer do alignments to confirm that the car is "in spec", but it keeps on killing tires at an amazing rate. I have stock suspension and normally drive in Comfort mode at typical street/highway speeds of 30-80 MPH. The tires are consistently inflated to 41/front and 39/rear, as per the diagram in the gas cap cover. Nothing fancy going on here.
Most recently the driver side rear Michelin PS4S failed, and on examination the inside of the tire had worn completely down to the metal while the outside looked new. I didn't record the mileage when I put this tire on, but I think it lasted only about 6000-7000 miles. The previous tire had failed the same way, as had the rear tire on the passenger side.
Down to metal on the right, but apparently not even making contact on the left?
Those look like my fronts after 2700 miles + 20mm drop + +15mm offset.
New A arms fixed it.
But they started squeaking after a couple years. TheCamberKing was no help.
took them off, raised it to -10mm. No problems since.
Looked at KMac but they would not definitively say if their bushings would conduct more noise or ride rougher. They do give a lot of adjustment.
Here too - had alignment at MB when I got new tires (the first time) and even though they saw the wear - they didn't adjust to try to take out any camber (sigh). I tried to offset it by cornering harder, which, while evening things out, isn't the best long term solution. What is the adjustability here? an eccentric or???
Todays models - the often quoted reassuring “We’ll carry out a full Front & Rear ‘4’ Wheel Alignment” !! Is now only basic Toe - “directional adjustment”. All to do with cost cutting and ever increasing speed of new car assembly lines.
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both of my front tires had this low speed blowout on local roads. Lucky me as I was about to go onto the highway too. The tires were at around 30,000km mark when this happened. After the tires were replaced, my MB dealer checked over my front wheel alignment and they were pretty well within factory spec. So, the dealer has no words on what happened to the tires in the end.
both of my front tires had this low speed blowout...
.....dealer has no words on what happened to the tires in the end.
Well in actual fact he certainly has - but instead tries to placate any responsibility by stating alignment is "within factory specs".
When plain and simple the reality is (as explained above #5) - TODAYS MODELS THERE NO LONGER IS "FRONT OR REAR CAMBER" TO ADJUST TIRE CONTACT ANGLES / SPREAD LOAD MORE EVENLY !
2024 AMG EQE SUV , 2021 E63S Wagon - gone, 2018 E63S Sedan - gone
Originally Posted by bobblehead
The front passenger tire removed last week Front driver tire removed last week
These are the replacement after the orig Michelin 4s went ka-boom ... so it happened again and again
How many miles were on your vehicle when this happened? I had 18,000 miles on my sold 2021 E63S wagon with Michelin PS4/AS tires and did not see any type of wear like this! The inner side of each front tire did exhibit some minor cupping, but that was because I didn't balance/rotate the tires at all. The wear pattern here looks like the tire is rolling over on the inside edge which seems caused by the loading of the inside wheel because of the combination of weight and aggressive driving. I previously had a 2018 E63S sedan with Bridgestone Potenza A/S tires with 28,000 miles on turn-in and they did not exhibit the wear pattern you are showing. I usually drove in the Comfort mode setting for the suspension, but Sport mode for the engine.
The orig ps 4s happened at near 30,000km (18,000 miles) … mind you, this mileage was withthe blowout. Then i replaced that with the Michelin as4 (with 4 wheels alignment done at dealer) and that probably lasted no more than 25,000km (15,000 miles) or less (as seen with the pics), no blowout but with cords showing.
Dealer told me to maintain the front psi at 41(cold reading) and i did exactly that and yet the exact same front passenger exhibited the identical excessive wear on the inner wheel as the orig 4s.
the rear also have the same excessive wear but at more mileage.
Last edited by bobblehead; Apr 7, 2024 at 04:46 PM.
I also have had catastrophic inside wear and separation multiple times on the lowered 2016. Always sobering realizing how recent the last highspeed run was. I inspect but it's really difficult to tell until belts start showing.
Same issues I had on my 18 Wagon. I got some of the K-Mac bushings as I didn't feel like replacing the entire control arm. They're OK, but they definitely squeak at slow speed. I have alignments done pretty regularly to keep them in spec, but they do seem to move ever so slightly between alignments. I considered reaching out to K-Mac for advice on how to keep the squeaks from coming back - I used the original lubricant provided and have considered some aftermarket options as well.
I was able to get my camber down to right around 2 degrees in the front which helped tremendously with wear. I mainly drive my car down the highway, and honestly, I hardly ever drive it aggressively, so I didn't see much need to keep such an aggressive camber.
Same issues I had on my 18 Wagon. I got some of the K-Mac bushings as I didn't feel like replacing the entire control arm. They're OK, but they definitely squeak at slow speed. I have alignments done pretty regularly to keep them in spec, but they do seem to move ever so slightly between alignments. I considered reaching out to K-Mac for advice on how to keep the squeaks from coming back - I used the original lubricant provided and have considered some aftermarket options as well.
I was able to get my camber down to right around 2 degrees in the front which helped tremendously with wear. I mainly drive my car down the highway, and honestly, I hardly ever drive it aggressively, so I didn't see much need to keep such an aggressive camber.
Hi
To quote “I considered reaching out to K-MAC for advice”.
Well wish you had - as there should be no movement, squeaking whatsoever !
Design goes back now 30 years well and truly proven - virtually fit and forget.
With models now having no OEM / factory adjustment the front and rear kits provide up to 3 degrees Positive or Negative Camber to resolve costly, premature tire replacement and / or simply dialling in extra Neg. Camber for TRACK DAYS !
Can you take rear pic of one of the 2 rear mounts and will quickly identify and resolve the issue.
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Camber bolts for 2018 E63S wagon?
