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Michelin PS A/S 4. I had that 2x. But I did not use these for my winter as I used Michelin PA 5 (square setup on 19")
Thanks, that's what I looked up here. In a perfect world I'd prefer not to buy another set of wheels. If the PS A/S can handle downstate NY winters, that's probably how I'll go. Need to research a little more.
Thanks this is good info. Which Michelins are you referring to? These Pilot Spot All Seasons? That seems like a WAY better option for me than switching wheels entirely for a winter setup. We get some snow down here but it's nothing crazy, and if it gets that bad I have a Volvo XC90 as well.
Yeah, those all seasons.
I had a set of winters on my last car and it was a bit overkill for New York City where it's flat and they grit the roads. Now I'm in Connecticut and my wife's SUV has no problem in winter with all seasons, and we have a crazy steep drive way.
I think you'll be ok on all seasons 95% of the time and when the weather is really extreme, just don't drive in it if you can avoid it. I never really leave the house when it's bucketing down snow or it's very icy
You could swap over just the winter tires if you want with a higher side wall if you you want to have access to the car 100% of the time in winter. most tire shops will store your summers for a small fee
I had a set of winters on my last car and it was a bit overkill for New York City where it's flat and they grit the roads. Now I'm in Connecticut and my wife's SUV has no problem in winter with all seasons, and we have a crazy steep drive way.
I think you'll be ok on all seasons 95% of the time and when the weather is really extreme, just don't drive in it if you can avoid it. I never really leave the house when it's bucketing down snow or it's very icy
You could swap over just the winter tires if you want with a higher side wall if you you want to have access to the car 100% of the time in winter. most tire shops will store your summers for a small fee
I drive a lot on the north shore of long island. Lots of hills and roads where the plowing is hit or miss. My dealer (no surprise) recommends the dedicated winter setup.
I drive a lot on the north shore of long island. Lots of hills and roads where the plowing is hit or miss. My dealer (no surprise) recommends the dedicated winter setup.
In that scenario then maybe you do need the winters, but no way I’d pay 6/7 grand for the OEM set up. 2 grand on tires, swap them over in November/April. Job done
In that scenario then maybe you do need the winters, but no way I’d pay 6/7 grand for the OEM set up. 2 grand on tires, swap them over in November/April. Job done
I hear that, but then I'm back to the fact that no one makes winters that fit our wheels. Best I could would be larger sidewalls and speedometer shenanigans.
I hear that, but then I'm back to the fact that no one makes winters that fit our wheels. Best I could would be larger sidewalls and speedometer shenanigans.
Maybe all seasons then is the way to go and be done with it.
It could be the case that the size is not available in July, but will be when the seasons change? I don’t know why they wouldn’t offer it.
In any case, It’s a very minor difference between a 35 and 45 side wall. That’s about half an inch of side wall
I hear that, but then I'm back to the fact that no one makes winters that fit our wheels. Best I could would be larger sidewalls and speedometer shenanigans.
Just searched some old threads and there was guys putting winters in 20' in the OEM sizes on the car last year. It must be a seasonal thing that they're not available right now
Just searched some old threads and there was guys putting winters in 20' in the OEM sizes on the car last year. It must be a seasonal thing that they're not available right now
Pirelli Sotto Zero 2 comes in our size, not Michelin
Interesting, and thanks for digging!
Edit: Looks like our size is on backorder everywhere, if they're even being made any more. I hate to wait until the last minute to get this taken care of, but I guess I gotta keep checking back to see if I can get them.
Edit: Looks like our size is on backorder everywhere, if they're even being made any more. I hate to wait until the last minute to get this taken care of, but I guess I gotta keep checking back to see if I can get them.
Try a specialist tire center, not Tire rack online. They will order them for you I bet. I had a hard-to-find tire for my other car, that I couldn't get it online, but an old fashioned phone call did the trick and they had it in 3 days
Try a specialist tire center, not Tire rack online. They will order them for you I bet. I had a hard-to-find tire for my other car, that I couldn't get it online, but an old fashioned phone call did the trick and they had it in 3 days
I don't think anyone has mentioned to look at online selling platforms like Kijiji, Marketplace or Craigslist. I picked up a mint used 19" factory set for just over $2000 Canadian with around 1/2 tread life left. I bought them when I bought the car but still have not used them as I haven't used the car in the winter. There may be more sets becoming available as peoples leases run out on the 2021 models.
Last edited by silver63; Jul 11, 2024 at 05:28 AM.
Updating to say that I've checked with all my locals, no one is able to get the Pirellis right now. They advised to check back in a month or so, and to refresh tirerack et al. every week at least...as soon as they show stock there, the locals can order as well. I hate waiting to the last minute to handle something like this, but I feel like the dealer can set me up square on 19s without much notice, so I don't think another month will hurt.
I got Pilot Alpin PA5's @ 265/40R20 MO1 BSW and 295/35R20 MO1 BSW. I can try to find the specific Michelin tire #'s if anyone needs em. Not sure if I have them recorded but I might.
I was talking to a guy who has the same car as us and he advised against the full snow / winter and recommended going with a high quality all season and this is based on trying both set ups over a few winters
He was in NYC
His view was that an all season will perform much better in winter in most conditions outside of a full on snow storm and when I think about it, we don’t get that much snow, and we we do the roads are swept and salted quite quickly.
Any thoughts on this?
Might be a better way to go for most unless You are in Canada or most Northern part of the US??
I was talking to a guy who has the same car as us and he advised against the full snow / winter and recommended going with a high quality all season and this is based on trying both set ups over a few winters
He was in NYC
His view was that an all season will perform much better in winter in most conditions outside of a full on snow storm and when I think about it, we don’t get that much snow, and we we do the roads are swept and salted quite quickly.
Any thoughts on this?
Might be a better way to go for most unless You are in Canada or most Northern part of the US??
I think you're absolutely right, but I've had trouble finding ANYTHING that fits our cars without changing wheels, which I'd prefer not to do. If anyone has any suggestions for snows or all seasons, I'd be interested. Thanks.
I think you're absolutely right, but I've had trouble finding ANYTHING that fits our cars without changing wheels, which I'd prefer not to do. If anyone has any suggestions for snows or all seasons, I'd be interested. Thanks.
Tire Rack had All Seasons, Continental and Michelins in stock when I looked yesterday. Might be region specific? I’m in CT
Tire Rack had All Seasons, Continental and Michelins in stock when I looked yesterday. Might be region specific? I’m in CT
So our cars come stock with Michelin Pilot Sport 4s. I see these on Tire Rack:
Michelin Pilot Sport All Season 4 (I assume better that the PS4s in winter?)
Bridgestone Potenza RE980AS+
Continential Extremecontact DWS 06 Plus
Falken Azenis FK460 A/S
Thoughts from folks here? I assume the Michelins are the best option?
So our cars come stock with Michelin Pilot Sport 4s. I see these on Tire Rack:
Michelin Pilot Sport All Season 4 (I assume better that the PS4s in winter?)
Bridgestone Potenza RE980AS+
Continential Extremecontact DWS 06 Plus
Falken Azenis FK460 A/S
Thoughts from folks here? I assume the Michelins are the best option?
I believe the Continental’s are excellent also, I will go for them or the Michelin’s
The Pilot sport is a summer tire so yes, the all season will be miles better with temps below 50
Found a guy that will come to my house to swap tires. Just have to decide now, Michelin Pilot Sport All Season 4 or Continential Extremecontact DWS 06 Plus?
Found a guy that will come to my house to swap tires. Just have to decide now, Michelin Pilot Sport All Season 4 or Continential Extremecontact DWS 06 Plus?
The cheaper ones…!? they’re both equally excellent from all of the reviews I’ve read
I'm being quoted about 1600 for the Contis, and 1800 for the Michelins, both prices for installed in my driveway. I've read that the Michelins are quieter, which might justify the cost? Given the price of the car itself, I don't really feel like the $200 is a major deal, I just want the best tire.
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