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Old May 4, 2025 | 08:53 PM
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Difference Between the Brake Systems

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I have recently purchased a 2019 E53 coupe and I am kind of confused about the brake systems. My car currently has the AMG silver Braking system which is good however I am wondering if they are better alternatives that are OEM and really what is the AMG silver Brake system since there aren’t much information out there.

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Old May 4, 2025 | 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Spacradon
Hi All,

I have recently purchased a 2019 E53 coupe and I am kind of confused about the brake systems. My car currently has the AMG silver Braking system which is good however I am wondering if they are better alternatives that are OEM and really what is the AMG silver Brake system since there aren’t much information out there.

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Check the ordering guide to see the differences.
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Old May 4, 2025 | 09:06 PM
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Standard on E 53 (E 53 only​)
4-piston front and 1-piston rear calipers
Front axle: brake disc measuring 14.6 inch, internally ventilated and perforated with 4-piston fixed caliper
Rear axle: brake discs measuring 14.2 inch,internally ventilated 1-piston floating caliper
Grey-painted brake calipers with“amg” lettering

https://mbworld.org/forums/attachmen...921d1621976969

I am not sure if the E 63 brakes will fit but it wasn't available as an option on the E 53.
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Although this is from the C Class order guide, it shows the different AMG brakes. The 43/53 models primarily have fewer pistons per caliper and single piece rotors. The next level up is 6-piston calipers for the non-S models, but still single piece rotors. Then the next level up with the red calipers are larger composite (two piece) rotors. Hat is out of aluminum with a steel ring connected via pins to the hat and then lastly are the carbon ceramic brakes. There are slight variations depending on the model such as heavier models having larger rotors, but generally these are the different level of brakes. The 63S models get the beefiest and most thermal resistant brakes, especially if you opt for the optional carbon ceramic. The high-performance composite braking system (red calipers) is increasingly an optional option even on the 53 models,


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Also, in addition to the OEM rotors, there are also aftermarket options. Some of us like me have opted for full-floating Brembo rotors for the front. These are actually OEM. They were on the W204 C63 Black Series as well as models like the GT R. Full-floating is a step up from the composite rotors as the ring can both move laterally and vertically in response to thermal expansion, so the rotor basically self-centers between the pads for optimal pad contact at all times and more consistent brake feel. FCP Euro has brake kits and sells these.

https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/mer...mbo-2304211212


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Originally Posted by W205C43PFL
Standard on E 53 (E 53 only​)
4-piston front and 1-piston rear calipers
Front axle: brake disc measuring 14.6 inch, internally ventilated and perforated with 4-piston fixed caliper
Rear axle: brake discs measuring 14.2 inch,internally ventilated 1-piston floating caliper
Grey-painted brake calipers with“amg” lettering

https://mbworld.org/forums/attachmen...921d1621976969

I am not sure if the E 63 brakes will fit but it wasn't available as an option on the E 53.

Thank You very much for this, and correct I actually spoke to the owner and he mentioned that back when he ordered it there was no higher brake options. Maybe they have added it on the newer models.
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Old May 4, 2025 | 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by W205C43PFL
Standard on E 53 (E 53 only​)
4-piston front and 1-piston rear calipers
Front axle: brake disc measuring 14.6 inch, internally ventilated and perforated with 4-piston fixed caliper
Rear axle: brake discs measuring 14.2 inch,internally ventilated 1-piston floating caliper
Grey-painted brake calipers with“amg” lettering

https://mbworld.org/forums/attachmen...921d1621976969

I am not sure if the E 63 brakes will fit but it wasn't available as an option on the E 53.
Originally Posted by superswiss
Also, in addition to the OEM rotors, there are also aftermarket options. Some of us like me have opted for full-floating Brembo rotors for the front. These are actually OEM. They were on the W204 C63 Black Series as well as models like the GT R. Full-floating is a step up from the composite rotors as the ring can both move laterally and vertically in response to thermal expansion, so the rotor basically self-centers between the pads for optimal pad contact at all times and more consistent brake feel. FCP Euro has brake kits and sells these.

https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/mer...mbo-2304211212


Wow I see thank you very much for the detailed explanation. So strange to not find a lot of info over the 53 models And for sure It is definitely better. Also looks so much nicer. BTW love your rims.
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Originally Posted by Spacradon
Thank You very much for this, and correct I actually spoke to the owner and he mentioned that back when he ordered it there was no higher brake options. Maybe they have added it on the newer models.
You're very welcome.

It doesn't seem so, the 53 will just get one brake option while the full fledged 63 models gets more options.

This is the same on the new CLE 53 apparently so they probably have no plans to change that.
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Originally Posted by W205C43PFL
You're very welcome.

It doesn't seem so, the 53 will just get one brake option while the full fledged 63 models gets more options.

This is the same on the new CLE 53 apparently so they probably have no plans to change that.
You are absolutely correct I actually found the order guide PDF and as you can see there’s only 1 options for brakes (Carbon Ceramics and only available for 63)
See Brake options
See Brake options
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Originally Posted by W205C43PFL
This is the same on the new CLE 53 apparently so they probably have no plans to change that.
That's not true. As I said, the high-performance composite brakes are now an option on models such as the CLE 53. They are part of the AMG DYNAMIC PLUS Package, along with the Dynamic engine mounts, which also used to be exclusively a 63S option. With the 63 models increasingly disappearing, these higher performance options are being made available on the lower trims. Just like the CLE 53 got a wide body as a first for a 53.







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Originally Posted by Spacradon
You are absolutely correct I actually found the order guide PDF and as you can see there’s only 1 options for brakes (Carbon Ceramics and only available for 63)
See Brake options
See Brake options
Actually I am incorrect, see forum member superswiss' reply.
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Originally Posted by superswiss
That's not true. As I said, the high-performance composite brakes are now an option on models such as the CLE 53. They are part of the AMG DYNAMIC PLUS Package, along with the Dynamic engine mounts, which also used to be exclusively a 63S option. With the 63 models increasingly disappearing, these higher performance options are being made available on the lower trims. Just like the CLE 53 got a wide body as a first for a 53.

Oops, I must had mixed it up with something else.
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You can upgrade your fronts to the 6 pot setup but will need to include the adaptor to convert from axial (side) mounting to radial (top) mounting. Did that for my CLS450 which had similar front 4 pots as the 53 without the amg logo.
For rears, keep with them as they are the same with the E63 which has taller pads and larger surface friction.

I like the progressive braking feel of the 6 pot more than the snappy brake feel from the 4 pot. Using Powerstop Z23 ceramic pads as well, little brake dust and clean rims are goodddd....





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Originally Posted by dagger22
You can upgrade your fronts to the 6 pot setup but will need to include the adaptor to convert from axial (side) mounting to radial (top) mounting. Did that for my CLS450 which had similar front 4 pots as the 53 without the amg logo.
For rears, keep with them as they are the same with the E63 which has taller pads and larger surface friction.

I like the progressive braking feel of the 6 pot more than the snappy brake feel from the 4 pot. Using Powerstop Z23 ceramic pads as well, little brake dust and clean rims are goodddd....



Those actually looks pretty good.
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Originally Posted by dagger22
You can upgrade your fronts to the 6 pot setup but will need to include the adaptor to convert from axial (side) mounting to radial (top) mounting. Did that for my CLS450 which had similar front 4 pots as the 53 without the amg logo.
For rears, keep with them as they are the same with the E63 which has taller pads and larger surface friction.

I like the progressive braking feel of the 6 pot more than the snappy brake feel from the 4 pot. Using Powerstop Z23 ceramic pads as well, little brake dust and clean rims are goodddd....



wow I didn’t know power stop makes things for Mercedes I do own a mini cooper s and currently running the same setup and they pretty good.

looks fire btw. Thanks for the info
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Originally Posted by Spacradon
wow I didn’t know power stop makes things for Mercedes I do own a mini cooper s and currently running the same setup and they pretty good.

looks fire btw. Thanks for the info
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