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Old May 20, 2025 | 12:29 PM
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The easy way to tell if a car has direct or indirect TPMS is to look at the valve stems. Direct TPMS has metal valve stems and indirect TPMS has rubber valve stems. Having direct TPMS doesn't necessarily mean that you can see the pressure in the instrument cluster. That's ultimately up to the software and may differ from market to market. My first car with TPMS had direct TPMS but didn't show the pressures in the instrument cluster. The US regulation doesn't specify which system to use. Both are accurate enough as the regulations only require an alert if the pressure in at least one tire drops by 20-25%. Seeing pressures and temperatures in the instrument cluster is added bonus and is often only found in the top tier performance models as being able to monitor the tire pressure and temperature is very useful on the track, but less so on public roads. Having said that, I pretty much always drive around with the tire pressures and temperatures displayed in the instrument cluster to gauge the grip I can expect from the rear tires. Cold rear tires on an RWD with 500hp going to the rear is not a good combination, so knowing when the tires have warmed up is good information to have on such a car.

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Old May 20, 2025 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by superswiss
The easy way to tell if a car has direct or indirect TPMS is to look at the valve stems. Direct TPMS has metal valve stems and indirect TPMS has rubber valve stems. Having direct TPMS doesn't necessarily mean that you can see the pressure in the instrument cluster. That's ultimately up to the software and may differ from market to market. My first car with TPMS had direct TPMS but didn't show the pressures in the instrument cluster. The US regulation doesn't specify which system to use. Both are accurate enough as the regulations only require an alert if the pressure in at least one tire drops by 20-25%. Seeing pressures and temperatures in the instrument cluster is added bonus and is often only found in the top tier performance models as being able to monitor the tire pressure and temperature is very useful on the track, but less so on public roads. Having said that, I pretty much always drive around with the tire pressures and temperatures displayed in the instrument cluster to gauge the grip I can expect from the rear tires. Cold rear tires on an RWD with 500hp going to the rear is not a good combination, so knowing when the tires have warmed up is good information to have on such a car.
Thanks forum member superswiss, in the case of OP and forum member Cosworth2000, both are Canadian cars so the market factor isn't it.
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Old May 20, 2025 | 04:05 PM
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Thanks forum member superswiss, in the case of OP and forum member Cosworth2000, both are Canadian cars so the market factor isn't it.
There could be other factors such as type of tire. Don't know from the top of my head what the tire options are for the 53, but RF vs. non-RF can make a difference as loss of pressure with non-RF tires is a bigger deal than with RF tires. OP appears to have RF tires, but not sure about @Cosworth2000 .
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Old May 20, 2025 | 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by superswiss
There could be other factors such as type of tire. Don't know from the top of my head what the tire options are for the 53, but RF vs. non-RF can make a difference as loss of pressure with non-RF tires is a bigger deal than with RF tires. OP appears to have RF tires, but not sure about @Cosworth2000 .
I see, that might explain it, hope to hear back from him.
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It's really a national issue. The US has more stringent regulations than Canada for this. I think it could be added by the right third party installer, but it wouldn't be cheap. You need wheel sensors, RF receivers at each wheel, wiring, new control module and software upgrades to start.
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Hello @W205C43PFL,
Yes my W205 had TPMS and so does my E53 AMG. When I first installed my winter tires on my W205, a message came up stating that my TPMS sensors were missing. The next year when I ordered my new rims I made sure that I added the TPMS and my car saw them and it showed up on the screen. It's the same on my E53 as I can see the PSI. I'm in Canada but of course the E53 is made in Germany.

I'm not sure why his car is only active with a passive like the lower level Benz's.

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Spacradon if you look at your rims, you will see the valve which looks like a wrench can attach to it. Does your rim shows this value?

Hi Thank you so much for the detailed explanation. I will have to check the valve and see if they match your s. And that’s a very interesting point you brought up.
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Originally Posted by W205C43PFL
I fully understand. TPMS is an aid though not a replacement of checking tire pressures manually, I do it manually despite having TPMS. That said, it is a convenient feature after all plus it is pretty accurate to manually checking. I guess I did get lazy some times and it is good to have. I am too from Canada with a Canadian vehicle.

Haha exactly I am just lazy and used to it but definitely need to look into it in more detail thank you so much for tagging others and sharing your thoughts.
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Originally Posted by W205C43PFL
OP, go to mb.vin or lastvin or both and paste your VIN number in there, check the generated data card/report, look for the TPMS option. I forgot what the option code is though. Let us know your findings. I am starting to wonder if your car does have active/direct TPMS just disabled for some reason due to a fault or something. In that case, scan the vehicle for DTCs as well and report back.
That’s a very good point once I get it checked out I can definitely post in this thread.
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Originally Posted by superswiss
The easy way to tell if a car has direct or indirect TPMS is to look at the valve stems. Direct TPMS has metal valve stems and indirect TPMS has rubber valve stems. Having direct TPMS doesn't necessarily mean that you can see the pressure in the instrument cluster. That's ultimately up to the software and may differ from market to market. My first car with TPMS had direct TPMS but didn't show the pressures in the instrument cluster. The US regulation doesn't specify which system to use. Both are accurate enough as the regulations only require an alert if the pressure in at least one tire drops by 20-25%. Seeing pressures and temperatures in the instrument cluster is added bonus and is often only found in the top tier performance models as being able to monitor the tire pressure and temperature is very useful on the track, but less so on public roads. Having said that, I pretty much always drive around with the tire pressures and temperatures displayed in the instrument cluster to gauge the grip I can expect from the rear tires. Cold rear tires on an RWD with 500hp going to the rear is not a good combination, so knowing when the tires have warmed up is good information to have on such a car.
Thank you for the detailed info, Yes I will definitely take a look and as you mentioned it is even more useful if you are driving a higher HP vehicle like yours.

will definitely update everyone.
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Old May 20, 2025 | 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by superswiss
There could be other factors such as type of tire. Don't know from the top of my head what the tire options are for the 53, but RF vs. non-RF can make a difference as loss of pressure with non-RF tires is a bigger deal than with RF tires. OP appears to have RF tires, but not sure about @Cosworth2000 .
I am currently running the on a brand new sets of pirelli p zero RF. I have to take a better look on the type of valve tomorrow but this is my current setup.


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Old May 21, 2025 | 12:26 AM
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I am currently running the on a brand new sets of pirelli p zero RF. I have to take a better look on the type of valve tomorrow but this is my current setup.
That's a rubber valve stem -- no TPMS sensor.
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Out of curiosity, where is the TPMS receiver(s) mounted and what do they look like?

Is there one near each wheel well or just one for the whole car?

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Originally Posted by Spacradon
Haha exactly I am just lazy and used to it but definitely need to look into it in more detail thank you so much for tagging others and sharing your thoughts.
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Old May 21, 2025 | 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Spacradon
That’s a very good point once I get it checked out I can definitely post in this thread.
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Originally Posted by Spacradon
I am currently running the on a brand new sets of pirelli p zero RF. I have to take a better look on the type of valve tomorrow but this is my current setup.
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That valve does not look like the TPMS sensor ones.

Honestly just get one of those aftermarket TPMS systems on amazon or something instead at this point.
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Old May 21, 2025 | 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by LumpyCam
Out of curiosity, where is the TPMS receiver(s) mounted and what do they look like?

Is there one near each wheel well or just one for the whole car?
There is one for each wheel well as the distance (if I recalled correctly) is what helps the computer determine which wheel is left front, right front, left rear, right rear.
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So here is some information for everyone as I looked it up in the workbook.
TPMS code option is Code 475

Also the TPMS speaks a module and then the module speaks the CAM BUS

Here is the diagram of the W205 TPMS Code 475


B14 is the TPMS in the wheel, it sends information to the SAM module N10/6. The module then sends this information to the CAMBUS B of the second line of the CAMBUS. As you can see CAMBUS D tells us that we can test the TPMS and see it with the proper scan tool using the OBDII port.

So if you have TPMS you will see the metal value stem and not a rubber value step. For me, I'm wonder how a C-Class did not come with the option because for me purchasing new cars and never clicking the option for TPMS - they seem to be there. I am wondering if all my cars got TPMS because I spec all my cars with Summer Option wheels and never the base 18 all season wheels however I thought all C-Class W205 and all W213 came with RF????

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Originally Posted by W205C43PFL
Much appreciate for chiming in forum member Cosworth2000! I hope you continue to enjoy your E 53 Yes, I am also in Canada with a Canadian vehicle with TPMS on my C 43, I asked you because I know you are from Canada as well, thanks for confirming your E 53 have TPMS. By the way, lovely wheels.
Thanks so much. I loved these rims however I am selling them. They are clean now and stored as my E53 is 20's and these are 19's. They do fit my E53 however this is my first white car and I like that the rims on the car are black. So I'm thinking of going a different direction from the machine sliver look and I can't think of powder coating these rims as they look so nice just the way they are.
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FYI, On the TPMS high system

You get pressure BUT in addition you also get tire temperature.
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Originally Posted by Spacradon
Hi All,

This question has been discussed in multiple threads however I am trying to see if anyone has a sold answer.

I have recently purchased a 2019 E53 AMG coupe and my car is loaded with options nothing is left out.

My question is why can’t I see the PSI level on each wheel, when I open the Tire pressure monitoring menu it only shows as active and I can only reset it.

Many vehicles have this option and it seems very odd that a highly spec AMG is missing this.

Note sure if this helps but the car is order for Canada and not us.

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This may be what you are looking for from RJ automotive?
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Hey all... here is the E53 TPMS location of the modules or I think any E-Class 2019 and newer, based on my car.


Module location:
Based off of 2021 and Newer


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Originally Posted by Cosworth2000
Thanks so much. I loved these rims however I am selling them. They are clean now and stored as my E53 is 20's and these are 19's. They do fit my E53 however this is my first white car and I like that the rims on the car are black. So I'm thinking of going a different direction from the machine sliver look and I can't think of powder coating these rims as they look so nice just the way they are.
Aw you are selling them : (
I see you prefer bigger wheels, hopefully you don't live in downtown : ) or any pothole "infested" areas.
I was going to suggest powder coating them as well but you already answered that question.
I assume you are going to go forged? I remember a forum member mentioned forged doesn't mean they are stronger, just lighter, I forgot who it was.

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