Can someone talk me out of it? Please.
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Can someone talk me out of it? Please.
I’ve got a 2021 E63s with mostly everything but CCBs. Mid 20k miles, no issues, no accidents or any other problems. I love the car. It’s been excellent in so many ways. I also own a three row family SUV for the kids and my spouse has her own car. The E63 used to be my daily driver. Lately, however, I’ve found that I drive it a lot less because when I’m with my family I take the three row suv for space. And for my commute to work, I bought a 2024 Civic Type R (reliving my youth). I also desperately wanted a manual transmission toy.
So here’s the dilemma: based on how little I drive it and how I’m the only who sits in it, I’m tempted to sell it and just get something else like a new Z06 or maybe a Boxster or just something more specialized, smaller and more intimate. Something I can drive during the warm seasons and not feel guilty.
The problem is each time I get a reasonable offer to sell it, I have a hard time pulling the trigger. I feel like I’ll regret it, and that’s despite the fact that I’m not driving it much. That’s despite the fact that it’s a lot of car for just one guy who doesn’t haul anything and only uses it to commute. Feels like I’m going to regret my decision.
I’m open and grateful for everyone’s opinion on this. It shouldn’t be this tough, but it is.
So here’s the dilemma: based on how little I drive it and how I’m the only who sits in it, I’m tempted to sell it and just get something else like a new Z06 or maybe a Boxster or just something more specialized, smaller and more intimate. Something I can drive during the warm seasons and not feel guilty.
The problem is each time I get a reasonable offer to sell it, I have a hard time pulling the trigger. I feel like I’ll regret it, and that’s despite the fact that I’m not driving it much. That’s despite the fact that it’s a lot of car for just one guy who doesn’t haul anything and only uses it to commute. Feels like I’m going to regret my decision.
I’m open and grateful for everyone’s opinion on this. It shouldn’t be this tough, but it is.
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You are describing something I've talked about a lot. The use case for an E63 is kinda limited. If the family is riding along with it, then it makes some sense, but as a fun car by yourself, it's too big and too heavy. This is why I have a C63S Coupe. It's more sports car than an E63, but still practical enough for a weekend out of town for two people (I don't have kids), and RWD is just more fun in general, but obviously not ideal in the winter if you live somewhere with snow. Here in NorCal I can drive around with summer performance tires all year long and it's dry about 300 days a year on average.
I also get the Civic. My wife has a hatchback, and I use it for occasional errands around town, driving around the city etc. It's just better at it than even the C63. It's small, light and nimble to zip around town and easy to park almost anywhere. I also don't commute and I can do most of my errands on foot or bicycle, so I only drive the AMG about 4000 miles a year. I got it for what it is, a grand tourer, so I take it out for road trips and canyon runs on the weekend.
So, you've got the SUV for the family drives and the Civic for the commute and daily driving. What exactly is the E for? That's the question, isn't it? I'm guessing you won't miss the E as such, but the powertrain and driving experience, so consider replacing it with a C63 coupe or a GT coupe. Those are for fun driving around by yourself or with maximum one other occupant.
I also get the Civic. My wife has a hatchback, and I use it for occasional errands around town, driving around the city etc. It's just better at it than even the C63. It's small, light and nimble to zip around town and easy to park almost anywhere. I also don't commute and I can do most of my errands on foot or bicycle, so I only drive the AMG about 4000 miles a year. I got it for what it is, a grand tourer, so I take it out for road trips and canyon runs on the weekend.
So, you've got the SUV for the family drives and the Civic for the commute and daily driving. What exactly is the E for? That's the question, isn't it? I'm guessing you won't miss the E as such, but the powertrain and driving experience, so consider replacing it with a C63 coupe or a GT coupe. Those are for fun driving around by yourself or with maximum one other occupant.
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Several people sold their 63's and started "regret threads" in their search for a new one.
easier to find a vette or boxter than a good 63 like the one you have/know.
Keep the 63, it's cool to own something cool even if you don't drive it much.
easier to find a vette or boxter than a good 63 like the one you have/know.
Keep the 63, it's cool to own something cool even if you don't drive it much.
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With both a family SUV and a CTR I see why you are tempted to sell, lots of overlap with use of the cars. Since the SUV most likely has to stay and wont be replaced by the E63, it comes down to the E63 and the CTR to me, not similar cars on paper but in daily use case they do overlap. I see you are in new england, do you plan to drive your CTR year round? That would be the main decider to me, I would either keep both and drive one in the winter or replace the one you wont drive year round with a sports car. I do agree with Peter though, the E63 is much harder to replace than some of the other cars you are considering, or even a CTR most likely. CTR is a cool do everything car but if you are able to have multiples, E63 complements a manual 2 door sports car nicely. For me the E63 works because it is the most practical car besides my wife's car, and the rest of mine are 2 door + RWD.
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You are describing something I've talked about a lot. The use case for an E63 is kinda limited. If the family is riding along with it, then it makes some sense, but as a fun car by yourself, it's too big and too heavy. This is why I have a C63S Coupe. It's more sports car than an E63, but still practical enough for a weekend out of town for two people (I don't have kids), and RWD is just more fun in general, but obviously not ideal in the winter if you live somewhere with snow. Here in NorCal I can drive around with summer performance tires all year long and it's dry about 300 days a year on average.
I also get the Civic. My wife has a hatchback, and I use it for occasional errands around town, driving around the city etc. It's just better at it than even the C63. It's small, light and nimble to zip around town and easy to park almost anywhere. I also don't commute and I can do most of my errands on foot or bicycle, so I only drive the AMG about 4000 miles a year. I got it for what it is, a grand tourer, so I take it out for road trips and canyon runs on the weekend.
So, you've got the SUV for the family drives and the Civic for the commute and daily driving. What exactly is the E for? That's the question, isn't it? I'm guessing you won't miss the E as such, but the powertrain and driving experience, so consider replacing it with a C63 coupe or a GT coupe. Those are for fun driving around by yourself or with maximum one other occupant.
I also get the Civic. My wife has a hatchback, and I use it for occasional errands around town, driving around the city etc. It's just better at it than even the C63. It's small, light and nimble to zip around town and easy to park almost anywhere. I also don't commute and I can do most of my errands on foot or bicycle, so I only drive the AMG about 4000 miles a year. I got it for what it is, a grand tourer, so I take it out for road trips and canyon runs on the weekend.
So, you've got the SUV for the family drives and the Civic for the commute and daily driving. What exactly is the E for? That's the question, isn't it? I'm guessing you won't miss the E as such, but the powertrain and driving experience, so consider replacing it with a C63 coupe or a GT coupe. Those are for fun driving around by yourself or with maximum one other occupant.
I genuinely love the car and it’s hard to imagine selling it. It does everything exceptionally well and in all climates. I could sell the civic with a lot less emotional attachment. I just really enjoy owning a manual transmission and there’s so few manual cars that aren’t old available.
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With both a family SUV and a CTR I see why you are tempted to sell, lots of overlap with use of the cars. Since the SUV most likely has to stay and wont be replaced by the E63, it comes down to the E63 and the CTR to me, not similar cars on paper but in daily use case they do overlap. I see you are in new england, do you plan to drive your CTR year round? That would be the main decider to me, I would either keep both and drive one in the winter or replace the one you wont drive year round with a sports car. I do agree with Peter though, the E63 is much harder to replace than some of the other cars you are considering, or even a CTR most likely. CTR is a cool do everything car but if you are able to have multiples, E63 complements a manual 2 door sports car nicely. For me the E63 works because it is the most practical car besides my wife's car, and the rest of mine are 2 door + RWD.
The ideal option would be to keep the wagon and find a RWD manual. But as well know, those cars are unicorns. There are however a crap-ton of automatic RWD sports cars that you can buy which is why on one hand I’ve entertained selling the wagon and keeping the CTR and adding an automatic sports car. They’re just easier to find.
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agreed, manuals are getting scarce and the CTR is probably one of the better MTs out there right now. Hard to justify replacing it with a 911 in order to keep the E63. I like the idea of a C7 grand sport for the prices they go for but the manuals seem to be almost as rare as E63 wagons. Cayman/boxster is the easy option but you certainly may miss the v8 going to one of those.
I can also see replacing the E63 with a 2 door rwd amg like superswiss suggested, I pretty much went the other direction for similar reason trading a 205 C63 coupe for a manual 911 then getting an E since I missed the v8 and wanted a "practical" winter car.
I can also see replacing the E63 with a 2 door rwd amg like superswiss suggested, I pretty much went the other direction for similar reason trading a 205 C63 coupe for a manual 911 then getting an E since I missed the v8 and wanted a "practical" winter car.
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agreed, manuals are getting scarce and the CTR is probably one of the better MTs out there right now. Hard to justify replacing it with a 911 in order to keep the E63. I like the idea of a C7 grand sport for the prices they go for but the manuals seem to be almost as rare as E63 wagons. Cayman/boxster is the easy option but you certainly may miss the v8 going to one of those.
I can also see replacing the E63 with a 2 door rwd amg like superswiss suggested, I pretty much went the other direction for similar reason trading a 205 C63 coupe for a manual 911 then getting an E since I missed the v8 and wanted a "practical" winter car.
I can also see replacing the E63 with a 2 door rwd amg like superswiss suggested, I pretty much went the other direction for similar reason trading a 205 C63 coupe for a manual 911 then getting an E since I missed the v8 and wanted a "practical" winter car.
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Thanks, I really like the T. Coming from mostly MB/AMG cars the relatively light weight and manual are really another level of driving experience. The chassis suspension and tires can handle so much more power than the car has it feels like endless mechanical grip. You sit low in the cabin and it lets in much more noise from the road and powertrain. It really appeals to my fantasy of driving a vintage sports car while still being a modern car. One thing I considered was that the base engines can be tuned to GTS levels and beyond, but I have found the stock power to be plenty enjoyable especially with the MT. Such a different experience from rocket ship AMGs but I am really glad to have both together.
The prices really have gotten crazy though, from a financial and practical point of view AMGs feel like much more complete cars in comparison.
The prices really have gotten crazy though, from a financial and practical point of view AMGs feel like much more complete cars in comparison.
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I’ve been thinking similar thoughts since spring. And today the last kid is on their way - we just got back from dropping them off and I read your thread.
Ive been DD’ing E63 for coming up on a decade. Just when I think I’m done a long trip effortlessly eating up miles making good time I wonder.
When I bring up moving on my wife says “Why not both?”
Let’s face it - there’s nothing pragmatic or responsible about E63 ownership. So trust your heart. If you are sure you can break up with no regrets that’s your answer. If you might regret it, hang on for a little bit longer.
Ive been DD’ing E63 for coming up on a decade. Just when I think I’m done a long trip effortlessly eating up miles making good time I wonder.
When I bring up moving on my wife says “Why not both?”
Let’s face it - there’s nothing pragmatic or responsible about E63 ownership. So trust your heart. If you are sure you can break up with no regrets that’s your answer. If you might regret it, hang on for a little bit longer.
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Now If you love the car then keep it. Why upgrade and regret it? Do not listen to the buffoon about a RMS failure. Irrelevant in this case like most of his post.
I have seen too many regret threads. Maybe try an extended test drive if you can with one of the cars you want to replace it with to really see if you want it move on.
I have seen too many regret threads. Maybe try an extended test drive if you can with one of the cars you want to replace it with to really see if you want it move on.
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This thread got me thinking. I have a 2018 E63S wagon. I just took it to yesterday's Cars & Coffee because the McLaren is getting PPFed. Neither is my DD. For the we use my wife's CLK350 (a fabulous car) or my 2007 RAM 2500 with 8' bed and a nice camper shell) and occasionally the Honda Gold Wing. I have use cases for each. The truck is actually a great long-trip vehicle (close to 650 miles on a tank) when we have to haul a bunch of stuff, but the wagon is the long-trip car when the cargo is more streamlined.
The wagon is nice to own just because it's cool. It gets as many thumbs-up at C&Cs as the McLaren. So there's a lot of pride of ownership. The wagon also goes as fast on the street as the McLaren, both limited by what is prudent. The wagon is useless on a racetrack; the McLaren most definitely not. I can afford to keep everything, although it's obviously not economic.
Your challenge is your family requires or prefers the SUV for short or long trips, and the wagon doesn't have a use case apart from the sheer joy of driving and owning a very cool and respected car. So that seems the nub. To paraphrase Bob Dillon, "How do you feel"
The wagon is nice to own just because it's cool. It gets as many thumbs-up at C&Cs as the McLaren. So there's a lot of pride of ownership. The wagon also goes as fast on the street as the McLaren, both limited by what is prudent. The wagon is useless on a racetrack; the McLaren most definitely not. I can afford to keep everything, although it's obviously not economic.
Your challenge is your family requires or prefers the SUV for short or long trips, and the wagon doesn't have a use case apart from the sheer joy of driving and owning a very cool and respected car. So that seems the nub. To paraphrase Bob Dillon, "How do you feel"
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Just getting back from the long weekend and I feel ya brutha! I’d keep it. Unicorn/sleeper-factor and nothing beats the sound of a V8.
I had a 2005 997/911s when kids were born. Had to sell it, wish I didn’t. Bought the Volvo, ugh. A few years later W212 2012 E63, my reaction, OMG they make cars like this? It does everything…everything. Put in comfort and the wife and kids are happy, drive to work in S+ and let the V8 sing. After a few years and driving too crazy, I felt like it was time to move on. Plus kids in sports now so every weekend busy. Bought BMW X5 5.0 V8. Ticked a lot of boxes but missing the grunt and handling of the E63. X5 had horrible transfer case issue last year so I traded it in for a used, fully loaded 2019 E63s with 20k mi (no CCBs)…. I AM BACK!!!, realizing every day that missed the old one. I chipped it pulling 707/777tq. Freaking flies. Go NorCal to SoCal to visit son in college ~5hrs eating up miles. I wish I never got rid of the previous one. Oh, BTW, I have 1998 BMW Z3 6-cyl manual for tons of fun on the weekend; picked it for $8k worth every penny.
I had a 2005 997/911s when kids were born. Had to sell it, wish I didn’t. Bought the Volvo, ugh. A few years later W212 2012 E63, my reaction, OMG they make cars like this? It does everything…everything. Put in comfort and the wife and kids are happy, drive to work in S+ and let the V8 sing. After a few years and driving too crazy, I felt like it was time to move on. Plus kids in sports now so every weekend busy. Bought BMW X5 5.0 V8. Ticked a lot of boxes but missing the grunt and handling of the E63. X5 had horrible transfer case issue last year so I traded it in for a used, fully loaded 2019 E63s with 20k mi (no CCBs)…. I AM BACK!!!, realizing every day that missed the old one. I chipped it pulling 707/777tq. Freaking flies. Go NorCal to SoCal to visit son in college ~5hrs eating up miles. I wish I never got rid of the previous one. Oh, BTW, I have 1998 BMW Z3 6-cyl manual for tons of fun on the weekend; picked it for $8k worth every penny.
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This thread got me thinking. I have a 2018 E63S wagon. I just took it to yesterday's Cars & Coffee because the McLaren is getting PPFed. Neither is my DD. For the we use my wife's CLK350 (a fabulous car) or my 2007 RAM 2500 with 8' bed and a nice camper shell) and occasionally the Honda Gold Wing. I have use cases for each. The truck is actually a great long-trip vehicle (close to 650 miles on a tank) when we have to haul a bunch of stuff, but the wagon is the long-trip car when the cargo is more streamlined.
The wagon is nice to own just because it's cool. It gets as many thumbs-up at C&Cs as the McLaren. So there's a lot of pride of ownership. The wagon also goes as fast on the street as the McLaren, both limited by what is prudent. The wagon is useless on a racetrack; the McLaren most definitely not. I can afford to keep everything, although it's obviously not economic.
Your challenge is your family requires or prefers the SUV for short or long trips, and the wagon doesn't have a use case apart from the sheer joy of driving and owning a very cool and respected car. So that seems the nub. To paraphrase Bob Dillon, "How do you feel"
The wagon is nice to own just because it's cool. It gets as many thumbs-up at C&Cs as the McLaren. So there's a lot of pride of ownership. The wagon also goes as fast on the street as the McLaren, both limited by what is prudent. The wagon is useless on a racetrack; the McLaren most definitely not. I can afford to keep everything, although it's obviously not economic.
Your challenge is your family requires or prefers the SUV for short or long trips, and the wagon doesn't have a use case apart from the sheer joy of driving and owning a very cool and respected car. So that seems the nub. To paraphrase Bob Dillon, "How do you feel"
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This thread got me thinking. I have a 2018 E63S wagon. I just took it to yesterday's Cars & Coffee because the McLaren is getting PPFed. Neither is my DD. For the we use my wife's CLK350 (a fabulous car) or my 2007 RAM 2500 with 8' bed and a nice camper shell) and occasionally the Honda Gold Wing. I have use cases for each. The truck is actually a great long-trip vehicle (close to 650 miles on a tank) when we have to haul a bunch of stuff, but the wagon is the long-trip car when the cargo is more streamlined.
The wagon is nice to own just because it's cool. It gets as many thumbs-up at C&Cs as the McLaren. So there's a lot of pride of ownership. The wagon also goes as fast on the street as the McLaren, both limited by what is prudent. The wagon is useless on a racetrack; the McLaren most definitely not. I can afford to keep everything, although it's obviously not economic.
Your challenge is your family requires or prefers the SUV for short or long trips, and the wagon doesn't have a use case apart from the sheer joy of driving and owning a very cool and respected car. So that seems the nub. To paraphrase Bob Dillon, "How do you feel"
The wagon is nice to own just because it's cool. It gets as many thumbs-up at C&Cs as the McLaren. So there's a lot of pride of ownership. The wagon also goes as fast on the street as the McLaren, both limited by what is prudent. The wagon is useless on a racetrack; the McLaren most definitely not. I can afford to keep everything, although it's obviously not economic.
Your challenge is your family requires or prefers the SUV for short or long trips, and the wagon doesn't have a use case apart from the sheer joy of driving and owning a very cool and respected car. So that seems the nub. To paraphrase Bob Dillon, "How do you feel"
Im a 2018 wagon owner and have yet to see any around in the Bay Area at any MB meets.
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This is my experience too. I can count on 1 hand the number of times I've seen another wagon. But it's easy to see another Lambo, Ferrari, Mac, 911, whatever. Those cars are everywhere around here.
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That GL is a sore spot for me. We bought the Diesel to last 500k and it crapped out early due to the bluetech issues.
On the other hand, if it never crapped out I would have never landed in an E63!
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Yesterday...I am JRA. A guy is flashing his lights at me. I check for things hanging off of the car (360cam) and blah blah blah. Some miles later he catches up and has a giant grin on his face. So, roll down the window (pass) and he is going on and on "That thing sounds AWESOME"..."That is a such a great car".
I had a 911 Turbo S and many other fun cars. Never, not ever wanted a Vette. Hell, here in a Vette you seriously look like every other car on the road if you are in The Villages. Vetts and Golf Carts.
You have something special. You should keep it.
I had a 911 Turbo S and many other fun cars. Never, not ever wanted a Vette. Hell, here in a Vette you seriously look like every other car on the road if you are in The Villages. Vetts and Golf Carts.
You have something special. You should keep it.
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Car will always drive better than an suv. You made the right choice.
