The Official Winter Tire thread ... all winter tire questions go here !!!
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2008 Z06
2006 CLS500
Indianapolis, IN
2006 CLS500
Stock Size - 255/40R18 Fronts and 285/35/18 Rears
I have a set of Dunlop Winter M2 in size 245/45/17. I have a few questions -
1. Can I use these tires? I think the wheel diameter is the same. Need to confirm.
2. What wheels can I use to mount these tires? Can you provide a link?
3. Would the TPMS sensors fit on these wheels?
Thanks.
#1.) 245/45-17 is the correct size but, Winter Sport M2's? How old are they?
#2.) I would go for the Sport Edition ST3
#3.) your car was available with 2 different TPMS systems. If you OE wheels have rubber valve stems that system doesn't use sensors it utilizes the ABS wheel speed sensor to calculate tire pressure. If your OE wheels have metal valve stems then you would need sensors and those wheels are designed to accept them.
2006 CLS500
Stock Size - 255/40R18 Fronts and 285/35/18 Rears
I have a set of Dunlop Winter M2 in size 245/45/17. I have a few questions -
1. Can I use these tires? I think the wheel diameter is the same. Need to confirm.
2. What wheels can I use to mount these tires? Can you provide a link?
3. Would the TPMS sensors fit on these wheels?
Thanks.
#1.) 245/45-17 is the correct size but, Winter Sport M2's? How old are they?
#2.) I would go for the Sport Edition ST3
#3.) your car was available with 2 different TPMS systems. If you OE wheels have rubber valve stems that system doesn't use sensors it utilizes the ABS wheel speed sensor to calculate tire pressure. If your OE wheels have metal valve stems then you would need sensors and those wheels are designed to accept them.
Last edited by Luke@tirerack; Oct 22, 2009 at 04:49 PM.
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2002 E55
2002 E55
Luke
I have a 2002 E55 that I am currently running 2005 and up SL500 Sport Wheels on so my lug bolts are different than stock. What wheel can and tire package can I run using the same lug bolts?
I also run a hella tpms system purchased from tire rack. Is it easy to switch between the sensors on different sets of tires?
this will take a bit more than 2 -3 sentences on a forum ... give me a call
I have a 2002 E55 that I am currently running 2005 and up SL500 Sport Wheels on so my lug bolts are different than stock. What wheel can and tire package can I run using the same lug bolts?
I also run a hella tpms system purchased from tire rack. Is it easy to switch between the sensors on different sets of tires?
this will take a bit more than 2 -3 sentences on a forum ... give me a call
Last edited by Luke@tirerack; Nov 10, 2009 at 04:59 PM.
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From: NY
2016 AMG GTS, 2015 GLA45 AMG
I have a 2009 CL63 with the 20" forged wheels. I purchased an extra set of the forged wheels for a great price. Seems like the best tire is the conti extreme contact DWS. It looks like it did better than the pirelli. Any advice on winter tires for this car and size wheel. Would you go with OEM sizes, 255front and 275 rear, or 255 all around. Is putting a 255 on the wider rear wheel a problem. I know the choices with 20" wheels is a bit limited. thanks
what size are the extra forged wheels?
are those the wheels you want to use for winter?
are they staggered wheels if so, what widths
what size are the extra forged wheels?
are those the wheels you want to use for winter?
are they staggered wheels if so, what widths
Last edited by Luke@tirerack; Nov 10, 2009 at 05:25 PM.
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E500 4matic
Hi Luke,
I bought from TireRack my last 2 sets of tires (winter & all season) and I'm getting ready to buy again. But I'd like to go narrow if possible.
I have 2005 E500 4matic.
Original size 245-45-17
I would love to go down to 16in, but I don't think that's an option for E500.
If I stay with 17in, can I go narrower, and what would be the right size.
Thanks
16's will not clear the brakes ...
you can go more narrow with a 225/50-17 size
Pilot Alpin PA3's offer good winter grip and nice ride quality
I bought from TireRack my last 2 sets of tires (winter & all season) and I'm getting ready to buy again. But I'd like to go narrow if possible.
I have 2005 E500 4matic.
Original size 245-45-17
I would love to go down to 16in, but I don't think that's an option for E500.
If I stay with 17in, can I go narrower, and what would be the right size.
Thanks
16's will not clear the brakes ...
you can go more narrow with a 225/50-17 size
Pilot Alpin PA3's offer good winter grip and nice ride quality
Last edited by Luke@tirerack; Nov 10, 2009 at 05:27 PM.
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09 C63 11 E350
TireRack absolutely RULES!!! I just recently installed 4 Dunlop SP WinterSport 3D 235/40/18 on 4 Rial 18x8 satin silver wheels w/TPMS on my 09' C63.
Ride quality and performance is outstanding with this package. Here in Northern New Jersey it is absolutely STUPID to risk your life and car by driving on extreme performance summer tires like the Pirelli P-Zero. The Rial wheels-though quite reasonably priced are nicely made. There were no issues with the TPMS recommended by TireRack.
These tires are quiet,comfortable. They also offer a surprising amount of Dry road grip and have been fantastic in the rain. It has yet to snow significantly here,but I had Dunlop Winter Sports on my Porsche 996 C2 and when the weather was bad getting stuck was not an issue.
I've purchased 3 sets of winter tires and wheels from TireRack with ZERO problems.
Ride quality and performance is outstanding with this package. Here in Northern New Jersey it is absolutely STUPID to risk your life and car by driving on extreme performance summer tires like the Pirelli P-Zero. The Rial wheels-though quite reasonably priced are nicely made. There were no issues with the TPMS recommended by TireRack.
These tires are quiet,comfortable. They also offer a surprising amount of Dry road grip and have been fantastic in the rain. It has yet to snow significantly here,but I had Dunlop Winter Sports on my Porsche 996 C2 and when the weather was bad getting stuck was not an issue.
I've purchased 3 sets of winter tires and wheels from TireRack with ZERO problems.
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From: NY
2016 AMG GTS, 2015 GLA45 AMG
I have a 2009 CL63 with the 20" forged wheels. I purchased an extra set of the forged wheels for a great price. Seems like the best tire is the conti extreme contact DWS. It looks like it did better than the pirelli. Any advice on winter tires for this car and size wheel. Would you go with OEM sizes, 255front and 275 rear, or 255 all around. Is putting a 255 on the wider rear wheel a problem. I know the choices with 20" wheels is a bit limited. thanks
what size are the extra forged wheels?
are those the wheels you want to use for winter?
are they staggered wheels if so, what widths
what size are the extra forged wheels?
are those the wheels you want to use for winter?
are they staggered wheels if so, what widths
There is not a winter tire option available in those sizes so, I would recommend the Potenza RE960 from Bridgestone
Last edited by Luke@tirerack; Dec 16, 2009 at 04:10 PM.
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year: 2010
make: Mercedes-Benz
model: ML350 4Matic w/standard suspension (Canadian)
currently has 19" 5 spoke wheels - rubber valve stems (therefore no tpms)
location: Edmonton, Alberta
tires only or winter package: winter package
It can get very icy up here more so than snowy. I'm looking for the best grip on the slippery stuff and bang for the buck. What do you recommend?
thanks !
in the OE size the Michelin Latitude Alpin will offer the best snow and ice traction. You could go down to a 17" wheel and tire package and get a set of Continental Extreme Winter COntact tires in a 235/65-17 size which would offer significantly better grip in wintery conditions
make: Mercedes-Benz
model: ML350 4Matic w/standard suspension (Canadian)
currently has 19" 5 spoke wheels - rubber valve stems (therefore no tpms)
location: Edmonton, Alberta
tires only or winter package: winter package
It can get very icy up here more so than snowy. I'm looking for the best grip on the slippery stuff and bang for the buck. What do you recommend?
thanks !
in the OE size the Michelin Latitude Alpin will offer the best snow and ice traction. You could go down to a 17" wheel and tire package and get a set of Continental Extreme Winter COntact tires in a 235/65-17 size which would offer significantly better grip in wintery conditions
Last edited by Luke@tirerack; Dec 8, 2009 at 02:17 PM.
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From: Maryland
2011 GLK350, 2010 ML350, 2008 C63 AMG
year: 2010
make: Mercedes-Benz
model: ML350 4Matic w/standard suspension (Canadian)
currently has 19" 5 spoke wheels - rubber valve stems (therefore no tpms)
location: Edmonton, Alberta
tires only or winter package: winter package
It can get very icy up here more so than snowy. I'm looking for the best grip on the slippery stuff and bang for the buck. What do you recommend?
thanks !
make: Mercedes-Benz
model: ML350 4Matic w/standard suspension (Canadian)
currently has 19" 5 spoke wheels - rubber valve stems (therefore no tpms)
location: Edmonton, Alberta
tires only or winter package: winter package
It can get very icy up here more so than snowy. I'm looking for the best grip on the slippery stuff and bang for the buck. What do you recommend?
thanks !
Same year and car except I am located in Washington DC so snow can be difficult to judge. This year the weather people have predicted between 20-50" of snow. Last year we only got 8". I am looking for your recommendation as I will also be carrying a newborn soon.
while you won't need the same type of grip as they do ion Canada you still need to get through your nasty weather ... take a look at the Michelin Latitude Alpin as well. It is probably a better choice for your area and offers the best winter traction available in the OE size
Last edited by Luke@tirerack; Dec 8, 2009 at 02:48 PM.
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CL65 V12/S63/JAG XJ L/SL500/BMW 750i
Hi Luke.
Im also in Edmonton Alberta.
I needed 295/21/35 Winter Tires.
Thank you.
Pirelli Scorpion Ice & Snow would be the best choice
Im also in Edmonton Alberta.
I needed 295/21/35 Winter Tires.
Thank you.
Pirelli Scorpion Ice & Snow would be the best choice
Last edited by Luke@tirerack; Dec 8, 2009 at 02:22 PM.
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ML430
Winter setup for ML430
2000 ML430, stock wheels/tires
I am looking for the best traction/handling combination for this sub. Running stock wheels with 275/55-17 (stock) AW Yokohamas, this is the worst handling awd vehicle I have ever driven. Help!
Blizzak LM25's can fix your winter grip issues without any drama
I am looking for the best traction/handling combination for this sub. Running stock wheels with 275/55-17 (stock) AW Yokohamas, this is the worst handling awd vehicle I have ever driven. Help!
Blizzak LM25's can fix your winter grip issues without any drama
Last edited by Luke@tirerack; Dec 8, 2009 at 02:49 PM.
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year: 2010
make: Mercedes-Benz
model: ML350 4Matic w/standard suspension (Canadian)
currently has 19" 5 spoke wheels - rubber valve stems (therefore no tpms)
location: Edmonton, Alberta
tires only or winter package: winter package
It can get very icy up here more so than snowy. I'm looking for the best grip on the slippery stuff and bang for the buck. What do you recommend?
thanks !
make: Mercedes-Benz
model: ML350 4Matic w/standard suspension (Canadian)
currently has 19" 5 spoke wheels - rubber valve stems (therefore no tpms)
location: Edmonton, Alberta
tires only or winter package: winter package
It can get very icy up here more so than snowy. I'm looking for the best grip on the slippery stuff and bang for the buck. What do you recommend?
thanks !
Just an update since "Luke" appears to be AWOL. I spoke to 2 different people at TireRack and they recommended the same set up. As well I did a bit of research and came to the same conclusion. Bear in mind I want the grippiest tires out there and could care less about high speed performance. So I'm getting 235/65R17 Bridgestone Blizzak DM-V1 on the 17" Rial DF rim. The DM-V1 are only R speed rated as opposed to the H rating on my current tires...but I want more grip than performance as the roads here are always icy and I frequently travel to the mountains all at speeds well under 170km/h. Their predecessor was the DM-Z3 and it was generally regarded as the best studless SUV winter tire out there for extreme conditions. A few reviews out there and of course Bridgestone themselves consider the DM-V1 to be even better than the DM-Z3.
They should be arriving any day and I will update on their effectiveness once installed.
not AWOL just very busy ... sorry for my delayed response to your previous post ... we are having some availability issues with those tires at this time though.
Last edited by Luke@tirerack; Dec 8, 2009 at 02:31 PM.
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From: Kansas City
'02 E55
Need new winter tires
Luke: I've worn out my Blizzak LM22's and need new for my '02 E55. I'm running a 17" 7 or 7.5" AMG wheel. Kansas City / Wichita area, so we do get winter here. What's your best recommendation for new tires? Thanks. PB
Winter Sport 3D from Dunlop would be a good choice
Winter Sport 3D from Dunlop would be a good choice
Last edited by Luke@tirerack; Dec 16, 2009 at 04:11 PM.
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2011 GLK350, 2010 ML350, 2008 C63 AMG
I am interested too.
Same year and car except I am located in Washington DC so snow can be difficult to judge. This year the weather people have predicted between 20-50" of snow. Last year we only got 8". I am looking for your recommendation as I will also be carrying a newborn soon.
while you won't need the same type of grip as they do ion Canada you still need to get through your nasty weather ... take a look at the Michelin Latitude Alpin as well. It is probably a better choice for your area and offers the best winter traction available in the OE size
Same year and car except I am located in Washington DC so snow can be difficult to judge. This year the weather people have predicted between 20-50" of snow. Last year we only got 8". I am looking for your recommendation as I will also be carrying a newborn soon.
while you won't need the same type of grip as they do ion Canada you still need to get through your nasty weather ... take a look at the Michelin Latitude Alpin as well. It is probably a better choice for your area and offers the best winter traction available in the OE size
What is the recommended tire pressure for these 235/65/17? 32 psi all around?
Last edited by gsrjc; Dec 8, 2009 at 09:24 PM.
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ML430
Thanks!
2000 ML430, stock wheels/tires
I am looking for the best traction/handling combination for this sub. Running stock wheels with 275/55-17 (stock) AW Yokohamas, this is the worst handling awd vehicle I have ever driven. Help!
Blizzak LM25's can fix your winter grip issues without any drama
I am looking for the best traction/handling combination for this sub. Running stock wheels with 275/55-17 (stock) AW Yokohamas, this is the worst handling awd vehicle I have ever driven. Help!
Blizzak LM25's can fix your winter grip issues without any drama
Thanks. Would there be any advantage to going with 16" ML320 wheels and tires? Seems like a narrower tread would help with winter traction. Also, what's the narrowest tire I can put on the stock 17x8.5 rims?
Thanks again,
Dave
narrower is better when it comes to deep snow but, you could just run 255/60-17 and save the cost of the additional wheels
Last edited by Luke@tirerack; Dec 10, 2009 at 11:23 AM.
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2011 GLK350, 2010 ML350, 2008 C63 AMG
What is the recommended tire pressures for the following snow tires?
17" rims. Pirelli Scorpion Ice & Snow 235/65/17 on a 2010 ML350 42 psi
18" rims. Dunlop SP WinterSport 3D 225/40/18 on a 2008 C63 36 psi
sorry for the delayed response
17" rims. Pirelli Scorpion Ice & Snow 235/65/17 on a 2010 ML350 42 psi
18" rims. Dunlop SP WinterSport 3D 225/40/18 on a 2008 C63 36 psi
sorry for the delayed response
Last edited by Luke@tirerack; Dec 16, 2009 at 04:38 PM.
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Yugos only
Many time what independent dealers have in their system is incorrect so double check.
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in the OE size the Michelin Latitude Alpin will offer the best snow and ice traction. You could go down to a 17" wheel and tire package and get a set of Continental Extreme Winter COntact tires in a 235/65-17 size which would offer significantly better grip in wintery conditions
The Blizzaks are better in the snow and ice while the Continental is marginally better on dry roads
Last edited by Luke@tirerack; Dec 17, 2009 at 08:04 AM.
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no 42 is not too high ... I find most prefer to raise the pressure to reduce some of the sidewall deflection when downsizing the wheels
Last edited by Luke@tirerack; Dec 17, 2009 at 08:06 AM.
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2009 E350 4matic sedan
Currently negotiating to buy a 2009 E350 4-matic with sport package (18" wheels)
and I want to know if I can use my 17" snow tires/wheels on it this winter that I bought from TireRack for my 2000 E430 4-matic.
Thanks.
yes 17's will work on the new car
and I want to know if I can use my 17" snow tires/wheels on it this winter that I bought from TireRack for my 2000 E430 4-matic.
Thanks.
yes 17's will work on the new car
Last edited by Luke@tirerack; Dec 19, 2009 at 09:24 AM.
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Oh wow... that is much higher for the ML350 than I had been running. I was running 32 psi all the way around. Isn't that too high (42 psi)?
no 42 is not too high ... I find most prefer to raise the pressure to reduce some of the sidewall deflection when downsizing the wheels
no 42 is not too high ... I find most prefer to raise the pressure to reduce some of the sidewall deflection when downsizing the wheels
Also, thanks for the hub rings, i got them.
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C350 AMG
I have a 2008 C350 sport with AMG package (225/40/18 & 255/35/18). I need a winter tire package. Will 17" tires and wheels clear my brakes? Also, can I go with same size on all 4 (225/45/17)? Thanks.
we have many 17" wheels which fit you car without issue and we also recommend using 225/45-17 on all four corners for winter
we have many 17" wheels which fit you car without issue and we also recommend using 225/45-17 on all four corners for winter
Last edited by Luke@tirerack; Dec 28, 2009 at 09:47 AM.
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From: Turkiye
Waiting for W204 Facelift
which winter tires you advice ? 05 C 180 sport (winter -all season tires are michelin pilot sport ps2)
225 /45 R17
Good-Year ultra grip performance
or
Michelin Primacy Alpin PA3 ?
very near results from TireRack !
I prefer the Primacy Alpin over the Ultra-grip from Goodyear
225 /45 R17
Good-Year ultra grip performance
or
Michelin Primacy Alpin PA3 ?
very near results from TireRack !
I prefer the Primacy Alpin over the Ultra-grip from Goodyear
Last edited by Luke@tirerack; Dec 28, 2009 at 09:48 AM.
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From: Turkiye
Waiting for W204 Facelift
yes and I learned new to me recently this must be as winter tires
my also normal rear size is 245 / 40 R17 !
