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Old 01-22-2010, 07:14 PM   #26
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That's correct, steering wheel controls are connected with Pioneer CA-R-PI.131 on the prefacelift cars. If you want DVD you need to go with at least the Pioneer X910BT.

I would probably steer away from the Pioneer units based on the X710BT performance. Its a little too slow and has a few too many bugs occasionally, but we got it for a good price. Theres pretty good support online, maybe with some of the hacks available it works better.



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I finally get to install my new toys tomorrow night! The 131 isn't here yet but I will just open everything back up and put it in once it arrives.

I will take pics during the install for everyone.
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So if i install a double din in my 2005 c230 do i need to do a re-wire??
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Re-wire what?

Bypass factory amps??

Run speaker wire from deck to each speaker?

Are the w203 amps (05 C230K) on the back of the speakers? or...
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I like how best buy tells you they cant do double-din in w203's
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Run speaker wire from deck to each speaker?

Are the w203 amps (05 C230K) on the back of the speakers? or...
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Bypass factory amps??

Run speaker wire from deck to each speaker?

Are the w203 amps (05 C230K) on the back of the speakers? or...
So far, from what I've been researching, this is only for the Harmon & Kardon speaker system.
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How do i identify if it is a Haromon Kardon system?
have you even searched at all. that is one of the most asked questions along with do i have a Bose system. Both of which can be identified the same exact way.
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How do i identify if it is a Haromon Kardon system?
If you look at the speakers, it should say "Harmon & Kardon" on it. So if you use your eyes to look directly at the speaker, you can see the 3" logo on it hahah.
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Old 04-19-2012, 10:38 PM   #45
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I like how best buy tells you they cant do double-din in w203's
Best Buy didn't tell me that a double din wouldn't fit in my w203 ('05 C230), they installed mine. But Crutchfields did. Back in 1982, they sold me speakers that were supposed to fit in my old BMW 230i - but there was NO WAY they would fit. I know they do good stuff for some people, but I've had enough of them.
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Old 04-19-2012, 10:44 PM   #46
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You guys with Pioneer HUs - what antenna adapter did you use?

I just had an AVIC X940bt installed in my '05 C230. It's fine but when listening to FM there are random pops, snaps, or static (it seems like only when I'm driving). It doesn't happen when listening to a CD or when listening to AM. On a Pioneer forum started frequenting, a poster suggested it could be an incompatibility between the antenna adapter and the antenna. Anybody have any ideas?
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Oooo bummer... Do you know which antenna adapter you have?
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Old 04-20-2012, 06:58 PM   #49
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A guy on the Pioneer forum gave me this tip about static:

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i would check to make sure that the antenna amp is getting powered up then,

there is also the metra 40-eu55 which does have the same plugs but has its own signal amp, also make sur ethat your car does not have dual antennas like a lot of new German cars do in which case the 40 eu56 might work better.
BTW - the Pioneer forum is at: http://avic411.com/
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  • Dash kit does not provide rear supports. I taped cardboard inserts at the bottom sides of the cavity to support the rear of the head unit. (see pic below)
  • Radio harness does not provide 12v switched ... tapped into the cigarette lighter harness yellow/black wire.
  • This car has two antenna cables. The one with the BLACK connector is for normal RF radio, and is the one to connect your adapter to. The cable with the YELLOW connector is called "ZF intermediate frequencies", which I believe is wideband for the stock radio (lower frequency requires longer antenna length). You do not need to use the ZF/yellow cable at all. Just remember to connect your head unit's remote antenna/amp turnon lead to the BLUE wire on your harness, as the car has its own antenna amplifier that needs to be turned on! Do not use the amplifier on the adapter.
  • The head unit also has illumination, speed and reverse signal wires. I tapped into the cig lighter harness blue/gray wire for illumination. This wire gets 12v signal at night, so will turn your maps into "night mode" display and otherwise dim the display. The night mode maps with 3D view make it look like an airplane cockpit
  • ASWC allowed me to program all six buttons on the steering wheel (Fwd/Rev seek, Phone On/Off hook, Vol Up/Down)
  • I have not yet connected speed or reverse. I don't have a backup camera and GPS will works pretty well without these signals, so no rush here.
  • USB/iPod cable in the glovebox. I removed the CD changer and tucked the stock cables back into the dash.
  • GPS antenna is in the dash tucked into a cavity on the right side of the upper center vents. (see pic below)
  • Phone mic is mounted on the left side of the rear view mirror mount. So far people tell me I sound fine.
Two weeks and I'm loving it! but the stock speakers now sound shrill at louder volumes ... time to start searching for better speakers and a sub :|

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