icecold911

Hi guys..
I am now driving 2002 C240. We all know the new C class has brand new interior now. I personally like the new speedometer as it looks alot more sporty than the older version one i have. I was wondering if we can buy the new speedometer and replace the old one we have.
In addition, I realized C230 front bumper looks exactly like C32 or C55 front bumper. are their bumpers dimension all the same? i am thinking of getting C230 sedan front bumper and replace the base sedan C240 front. Do do u guys think? thanks.

DiamondNoir2K5

The '05 C230 frontal lower bodywork is "AMG-inspired". It is not exactly the same as the C32. The C32 has a larger "mouth" because it actually needs it, I assume. The "mouth" on the C230 is more for looks. Also, the C32 and C55 are not the same as each other either, since the C55 takes its front end from the CLK.

In any case, the '05 C230 bodywork should fit your C240. I'm not sure, you might need to get new foglamp assemblies.

brabusCcoupe

I believe the new '05 instrument cluster is smaller than the 2002-2004 one. I know, i wish it would fit.

MBenzNL

it DOES fit...it just doesn't work properly...

greetingz,

Tang

If somehow we could get it to work then it would be great . The Dash looks great with the different clmiate control and the instrument cluster ...

brabusCcoupe

Sorry, by the last pics you posted Steve, i thought it looked smaller. Any reason why it wont work, are the plugs different or is it the data? Im sure it will be pricey. I priced the 2001-2004 coupe instrument cluster at over 850.00 form the dealer.'

Thanks Steve

miroj

According to many previous posts it seems that the central gateway holds the key to programming it and the old W203 doesnt have one. It has a central gateway in the ignition switch but it isnt the same.

icecold911

so there is no way we can change to the new instrumental cluster?? it looks so nice nicer and sporty.

MBenzNL

...hopefully...I am trying to get an updated cluster to be programmed like the pre updated clusters...don't know yet wether it will work out...

greetingz,

Tang

Please Please Steve Try your best - I hope it workd out . Do you think we could change the center console also along with the Climate control of the new ones ...

Thank you - You have always been the Saviour

Kar don

pssh i want the s-class cluster. cmon steve!

Guest0001

W209 cluster owns all. Well prior to MY05. My absolute favorite is the W211 Appearance pkg clusters though.

visitor

Hi, I'm new to this board. I'm using '02 C180 (2000CC.) in Thailand.
Just want to share my experience for the switching as follows:

I changed my instrument cluster from my '02 to the new '06.
The installation is just like plug and play due to same connector for both unit.

After finishing installation, most of the functions worked.
But two problems occured:
1. The fuel gauge doesn't work (most of the time)
2. The mileage display "--------" without changing

Then, I switched back my 02 instrument cluster, but one problem remain.
The '02 cluster mileage display "999999"

Then, I bring my car to MB dealer to fix the problem, but they can not fix it.
The star diag show that my car mileage is 1,6xx,xxx!!!!!!!!!!!
That's why the display is 999999.

Anyone know how to fix it???????
Please share your idea.

PS. please find the picture as in the attachments.

advans

the prefacelift and the facelift coupe cluster is a completely diff shape.., the prefacelift coupes have this like...bump and the new one takes the shape of the sedans.

as for the front bumper, you can buy any sport sedan "amg inspired" front bumper for your 240, just need new fogs and possibly the mesh thats on the bumper.

I think it WOULD be hott if someone fitted the W209/W211 clusters on teh W203...like sunman lol

SUNILP

You did a big boo boo. You should have researched first before changing the cluster. Simply swapping clusters will not be ok. Even though the plug is the same. First of all, you cannot use a used cluster with more than 1000 miles on it. It has to be new or less than 1000 miles. Second, your audio features will not be displayed on the new cluster due to the differences is most and d2b. Third, you have to adopt the new cluster to the same mileage as the old by copying this data from the EIS. Fourth, button presses on the Steering Wheel may show irratic menues. Meaning if you press buttons, it may not switch the screens, fifth, you have to still code many aspects of the cluster which cannot be done by simply plugging in a new cluster. What you did was when you swapped the new cluster, you must have driven a bit. This caused a mileage mismatch between the EIS and cluster. And when you swapped the old cluster back, a mileage mismatch still remained. I am not sure what can be done about this but you will need access to Star Diagnose to fix this.

SUNILP

And Steve did.....

SUNILP

you may need a new rear SAM module for the fuel to work properly.

visitor

Thank you sunman for the very helpful information.
I would like to give more information as below.

First of all, you cannot use a used cluster with more than 1000 miles on it. It has to be new or less than 1000 miles.
The '06 cluster is brand new. But, I think this is origin of the problem when I switched back my '02 cluster


Second, your audio features will not be displayed on the new cluster due to the differences is most and d2b.
I'm now using 2din TV head unit. Then, the function is no need for me.


Third, you have to adopt the new cluster to the same mileage as the old by copying this data from the EIS.
I think this is the problem, too. Please give more information on adopting the new cluster to the same mileage. May I use Star Diagnose?


Fourth, button presses on the Steering Wheel may show irratic menues. Meaning if you press buttons, it may not switch the screens,
From my own experience, the menues are working with my steering wheel perfectly except the two mentioned functions (Mileage and fuel gauge)


fifth, you have to still code many aspects of the cluster which cannot be done by simply plugging in a new cluster.
I think I can use the fourth comment for this


What you did was when you swapped the new cluster, you must have driven a bit. This caused a mileage mismatch between the EIS and cluster. And when you swapped the old cluster back, a mileage mismatch still remained. I am not sure what can be done about this but you will need access to Star Diagnose to fix this.

I already went to MB dealers with Star Diag. They still can not help to adjust the mileage for me. So, from your post, I think that I have to reset and then match EIS and cluster data, right?


Thank you again for your help.
Highly appreciated.

visitor

Sunman, referring to your post about the cluster.

https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w203/137017-lowered-car-new-cluster.html

Please help to share on how to get the programming done.

"The cluster is plug and play for the most part except for the amount of programming required. Lots of variables have to be programmed into it, chassis, engine type, fuel tank type, oil sensors used, oil used, accessories installed, etc.. There was quite a bit of programming involved not to mention the mileage.
"

Best Regards,

WaveyKat

Sunman Can i get a new cluster please ?

eckc21

JesLet just converted his 2002 C240 to the 2005 sport sedan looks. Check out his forum it will be useful for you.

https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w203/151001-conversion-2002-c240-2005-amg-body-style-30-pics.html

MJ50

JesLet did not change to 05+ cluster.

JesLet

I was going to but.... I found an 05 w203 cluster at Ebay... it has over 1k miles.

SUNILP

Most of the programming aspects are pretty straightforward. You have to use a Star System for it though. All the options are there. There is an option for adopting the mileage as well. Also there are options for other features such as engine type, fuel sensor, etc. I can't remember off the top of my head what all the options are. There are tons of them though so make sure you go through all the menus.

benzmodz

To put a 2006 cluster into a pre-2003 car you need someone with specially modified Star Diagnose to activate the cluster for "old fuel sensor" mode. Then the fuel gauge will work.