New w203 interior
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2002 C240
New w203 interior
Hi guys..
I am now driving 2002 C240. We all know the new C class has brand new interior now. I personally like the new speedometer as it looks alot more sporty than the older version one i have. I was wondering if we can buy the new speedometer and replace the old one we have.
In addition, I realized C230 front bumper looks exactly like C32 or C55 front bumper. are their bumpers dimension all the same? i am thinking of getting C230 sedan front bumper and replace the base sedan C240 front. Do do u guys think? thanks.
I am now driving 2002 C240. We all know the new C class has brand new interior now. I personally like the new speedometer as it looks alot more sporty than the older version one i have. I was wondering if we can buy the new speedometer and replace the old one we have.
In addition, I realized C230 front bumper looks exactly like C32 or C55 front bumper. are their bumpers dimension all the same? i am thinking of getting C230 sedan front bumper and replace the base sedan C240 front. Do do u guys think? thanks.
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'05 C230K SS
Originally Posted by icecold911
Hi guys..
In addition, I realized C230 front bumper looks exactly like C32 or C55 front bumper. are their bumpers dimension all the same? i am thinking of getting C230 sedan front bumper and replace the base sedan C240 front. Do do u guys think? thanks.
In addition, I realized C230 front bumper looks exactly like C32 or C55 front bumper. are their bumpers dimension all the same? i am thinking of getting C230 sedan front bumper and replace the base sedan C240 front. Do do u guys think? thanks.
In any case, the '05 C230 bodywork should fit your C240. I'm not sure, you might need to get new foglamp assemblies.
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some slow@$$diesels
Originally Posted by brabusCcoupe
I believe the new '05 instrument cluster is smaller than the 2002-2004 one. I know, i wish it would fit.
greetingz,
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If somehow we could get it to work then it would be great . The Dash looks great with the different clmiate control and the instrument cluster ...
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Originally Posted by MBenzNL
it DOES fit...it just doesn't work properly...
greetingz,
greetingz,
Thanks Steve
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Originally Posted by brabusCcoupe
Sorry, by the last pics you posted Steve, i thought it looked smaller. Any reason why it wont work, are the plugs different or is it the data? Im sure it will be pricey. I priced the 2001-2004 coupe instrument cluster at over 850.00 form the dealer.'
Thanks Steve
Thanks Steve
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From: global traveller
some slow@$$diesels
Originally Posted by icecold911
so there is no way we can change to the new instrumental cluster??
greetingz,
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Please Please Steve Try your best - I hope it workd out . Do you think we could change the center console also along with the Climate control of the new ones ...
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From: Thailand
Black W203
Hi, I'm new to this board. I'm using '02 C180 (2000CC.) in Thailand.
Just want to share my experience for the switching as follows:
I changed my instrument cluster from my '02 to the new '06.
The installation is just like plug and play due to same connector for both unit.
After finishing installation, most of the functions worked.
But two problems occured:
1. The fuel gauge doesn't work (most of the time)
2. The mileage display "--------" without changing
Then, I switched back my 02 instrument cluster, but one problem remain.
The '02 cluster mileage display "999999"
Then, I bring my car to MB dealer to fix the problem, but they can not fix it.
The star diag show that my car mileage is 1,6xx,xxx!!!!!!!!!!!
That's why the display is 999999.
Anyone know how to fix it???????
Please share your idea.
PS. please find the picture as in the attachments.
Just want to share my experience for the switching as follows:
I changed my instrument cluster from my '02 to the new '06.
The installation is just like plug and play due to same connector for both unit.
After finishing installation, most of the functions worked.
But two problems occured:
1. The fuel gauge doesn't work (most of the time)
2. The mileage display "--------" without changing
Then, I switched back my 02 instrument cluster, but one problem remain.
The '02 cluster mileage display "999999"
Then, I bring my car to MB dealer to fix the problem, but they can not fix it.
The star diag show that my car mileage is 1,6xx,xxx!!!!!!!!!!!
That's why the display is 999999.
Anyone know how to fix it???????
Please share your idea.
PS. please find the picture as in the attachments.
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the prefacelift and the facelift coupe cluster is a completely diff shape.., the prefacelift coupes have this like...bump and the new one takes the shape of the sedans.
as for the front bumper, you can buy any sport sedan "amg inspired" front bumper for your 240, just need new fogs and possibly the mesh thats on the bumper.
I think it WOULD be hott if someone fitted the W209/W211 clusters on teh W203...like sunman lol
as for the front bumper, you can buy any sport sedan "amg inspired" front bumper for your 240, just need new fogs and possibly the mesh thats on the bumper.
I think it WOULD be hott if someone fitted the W209/W211 clusters on teh W203...like sunman lol
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2015 E250D
Originally Posted by visitor
Hi, I'm new to this board. I'm using '02 C180 (2000CC.) in Thailand.
Just want to share my experience for the switching as follows:
I changed my instrument cluster from my '02 to the new '06.
The installation is just like plug and play due to same connector for both unit.
After finishing installation, most of the functions worked.
But two problems occured:
1. The fuel gauge doesn't work (most of the time)
2. The mileage display "--------" without changing
Then, I switched back my 02 instrument cluster, but one problem remain.
The '02 cluster mileage display "999999"
Then, I bring my car to MB dealer to fix the problem, but they can not fix it.
The star diag show that my car mileage is 1,6xx,xxx!!!!!!!!!!!
That's why the display is 999999.
Anyone know how to fix it???????
Please share your idea.
PS. please find the picture as in the attachments.
Just want to share my experience for the switching as follows:
I changed my instrument cluster from my '02 to the new '06.
The installation is just like plug and play due to same connector for both unit.
After finishing installation, most of the functions worked.
But two problems occured:
1. The fuel gauge doesn't work (most of the time)
2. The mileage display "--------" without changing
Then, I switched back my 02 instrument cluster, but one problem remain.
The '02 cluster mileage display "999999"
Then, I bring my car to MB dealer to fix the problem, but they can not fix it.
The star diag show that my car mileage is 1,6xx,xxx!!!!!!!!!!!
That's why the display is 999999.
Anyone know how to fix it???????
Please share your idea.
PS. please find the picture as in the attachments.
You did a big boo boo. You should have researched first before changing the cluster. Simply swapping clusters will not be ok. Even though the plug is the same. First of all, you cannot use a used cluster with more than 1000 miles on it. It has to be new or less than 1000 miles. Second, your audio features will not be displayed on the new cluster due to the differences is most and d2b. Third, you have to adopt the new cluster to the same mileage as the old by copying this data from the EIS. Fourth, button presses on the Steering Wheel may show irratic menues. Meaning if you press buttons, it may not switch the screens, fifth, you have to still code many aspects of the cluster which cannot be done by simply plugging in a new cluster. What you did was when you swapped the new cluster, you must have driven a bit. This caused a mileage mismatch between the EIS and cluster. And when you swapped the old cluster back, a mileage mismatch still remained. I am not sure what can be done about this but you will need access to Star Diagnose to fix this.
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Black W203
Thank you sunman for the very helpful information.
I would like to give more information as below.
First of all, you cannot use a used cluster with more than 1000 miles on it. It has to be new or less than 1000 miles.
The '06 cluster is brand new. But, I think this is origin of the problem when I switched back my '02 cluster
Second, your audio features will not be displayed on the new cluster due to the differences is most and d2b.
I'm now using 2din TV head unit. Then, the function is no need for me.
Third, you have to adopt the new cluster to the same mileage as the old by copying this data from the EIS.
I think this is the problem, too. Please give more information on adopting the new cluster to the same mileage. May I use Star Diagnose?
Fourth, button presses on the Steering Wheel may show irratic menues. Meaning if you press buttons, it may not switch the screens,
From my own experience, the menues are working with my steering wheel perfectly except the two mentioned functions (Mileage and fuel gauge)
fifth, you have to still code many aspects of the cluster which cannot be done by simply plugging in a new cluster.
I think I can use the fourth comment for this
What you did was when you swapped the new cluster, you must have driven a bit. This caused a mileage mismatch between the EIS and cluster. And when you swapped the old cluster back, a mileage mismatch still remained. I am not sure what can be done about this but you will need access to Star Diagnose to fix this.
I already went to MB dealers with Star Diag. They still can not help to adjust the mileage for me. So, from your post, I think that I have to reset and then match EIS and cluster data, right?
Thank you again for your help.
Highly appreciated.
I would like to give more information as below.
First of all, you cannot use a used cluster with more than 1000 miles on it. It has to be new or less than 1000 miles.
The '06 cluster is brand new. But, I think this is origin of the problem when I switched back my '02 cluster
Second, your audio features will not be displayed on the new cluster due to the differences is most and d2b.
I'm now using 2din TV head unit. Then, the function is no need for me.
Third, you have to adopt the new cluster to the same mileage as the old by copying this data from the EIS.
I think this is the problem, too. Please give more information on adopting the new cluster to the same mileage. May I use Star Diagnose?
Fourth, button presses on the Steering Wheel may show irratic menues. Meaning if you press buttons, it may not switch the screens,
From my own experience, the menues are working with my steering wheel perfectly except the two mentioned functions (Mileage and fuel gauge)
fifth, you have to still code many aspects of the cluster which cannot be done by simply plugging in a new cluster.
I think I can use the fourth comment for this
What you did was when you swapped the new cluster, you must have driven a bit. This caused a mileage mismatch between the EIS and cluster. And when you swapped the old cluster back, a mileage mismatch still remained. I am not sure what can be done about this but you will need access to Star Diagnose to fix this.
I already went to MB dealers with Star Diag. They still can not help to adjust the mileage for me. So, from your post, I think that I have to reset and then match EIS and cluster data, right?
Thank you again for your help.
Highly appreciated.
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From: Thailand
Black W203
Sunman, referring to your post about the cluster.
https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w203/137017-lowered-car-new-cluster.html
Please help to share on how to get the programming done.
"The cluster is plug and play for the most part except for the amount of programming required. Lots of variables have to be programmed into it, chassis, engine type, fuel tank type, oil sensors used, oil used, accessories installed, etc.. There was quite a bit of programming involved not to mention the mileage.
"
Best Regards,
https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w203/137017-lowered-car-new-cluster.html
Please help to share on how to get the programming done.
"The cluster is plug and play for the most part except for the amount of programming required. Lots of variables have to be programmed into it, chassis, engine type, fuel tank type, oil sensors used, oil used, accessories installed, etc.. There was quite a bit of programming involved not to mention the mileage.
"
Best Regards,
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05' C230K Sport Sedan
JesLet just converted his 2002 C240 to the 2005 sport sedan looks. Check out his forum it will be useful for you.
https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w203/151001-conversion-2002-c240-2005-amg-body-style-30-pics.html
https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w203/151001-conversion-2002-c240-2005-amg-body-style-30-pics.html
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Originally Posted by eckc21
JesLet just converted his 2002 C240 to the 2005 sport sedan looks. Check out his forum it will be useful for you.
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=151001
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=151001
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Most of the programming aspects are pretty straightforward. You have to use a Star System for it though. All the options are there. There is an option for adopting the mileage as well. Also there are options for other features such as engine type, fuel sensor, etc. I can't remember off the top of my head what all the options are. There are tons of them though so make sure you go through all the menus.
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W203 slightly modified
Originally Posted by sunman
Most of the programming aspects are pretty straightforward. You have to use a Star System for it though. All the options are there. There is an option for adopting the mileage as well. Also there are options for other features such as engine type, fuel sensor, etc. I can't remember off the top of my head what all the options are. There are tons of them though so make sure you go through all the menus.
