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Old 04-11-2014, 03:36 PM
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more pics with covers off!
I hope their are enough pictures for you now.

Originally Posted by adamls2
Good looking stuff!
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Originally Posted by AMG-Driver
Interesting and nice to see. Thanks for the Pics!

That's one of the first attempts to route the air from the front and not from the side through the coolers. In theory the Air has more time in the core to cool down. But maybe for the price of more restriction. Who knows.

I have seen also other Tuners to work with different setups.

Interesting would be a Dyno-Run before - after the mod.

Or some IAT with the new setup.

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P.S. I like the STEALTH-Look under the Nice AMG-Cover. May I ask where the Air-Filters are located now, or is it for use without filters?
Now you see where the air filters are.

Originally Posted by BlownV8
What pressure drop are you seeing before and after the intercooler?
I have no idea

Originally Posted by richvegas
looks like some quality work! no the important question... How much to do it again?
I do not really want to do it again. I'm hoping you guys can take the direction we went and expand upon it yourselves. We really focus our efforts on the V8TT cars and build parts for those. I love the V12TT but it is a struggle to get parts produced for the models we currently cover. If you guys have any questions or need any help I am always available to try and help you out with any ideas or in any way that I can.

Originally Posted by shardul
looks nice
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Originally Posted by Zax63
Looks like great workmanship!
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How much for a pair of those filter mount tubes and do they allow the hood to close with the stock grill?

I already made a CAI from the turbo to the core support but had not yet fabbed up the filter and mount.

Never mind, I typed that after seeing the pics but before reading your post on this page. I'll continue on with what I was planning.

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I do not really want to do it again. I'm hoping you guys can take the direction we went and expand upon it yourselves. We really focus our efforts on the V8TT cars and build parts for those. I love the V12TT but it is a struggle to get parts produced for the models we currently cover. If you guys have any questions or need any help I am always available to try and help you out with any ideas or in any way that I can.

It just sounds like you are tired from completing the prototype. Give it a couple of days we hope you change your mind. Would you consider just the cold air intake end to the turbos? Who know's you may find enough people interested to make it worth doing again!!! They gotta go faster after you already did it once. LOL
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did you open the area where the intake goes through the radiator support or leave it factory size?
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did you open the area where the intake goes through the radiator support or leave it factory size?

That remains a mystery, I'm guessing no since it appears stock tubes are used to connect to the back side of the radiator support to the radius elbows off the turbo.. I do see the white marking, followed by a clean cut of the bumper support as I mentioned I wanted to do in the other V12TT thread.
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Originally Posted by Staff@WORLD
I hope their are enough pictures for you now.



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Now you see where the air filters are.



I have no idea



I do not really want to do it again. I'm hoping you guys can take the direction we went and expand upon it yourselves. We really focus our efforts on the V8TT cars and build parts for those. I love the V12TT but it is a struggle to get parts produced for the models we currently cover. If you guys have any questions or need any help I am always available to try and help you out with any ideas or in any way that I can.



Thanks



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WINNING...... Yes you'd sell dozens of these outside air intake pipes/filter setups guaranted
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This is what everyone has been waiting for - you could sell a lot of those!

Hope you remembered to have the IC water inlets at the back and the water outlets at the front.

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I'd just rock that system w/SS mesh screens on race days & ditch the big radiator blocking k&n's nicely done guys... This setup is similar to Speedrivens 1 off, though Speedrivens is bit more extreme, Marcin didn't reuse the stock plastic intake piping. Either way the pieces you're looking at can't simply be made to sell as a kit/production model ALL v12tt's are slightly different & would have to recieve extensive cutting/fitment mods to actually work on any car... IE why their most likely saying they don't want to redo it as it's a lot of CUSTOM expensive work.. Same reason Marcin/Speedriven said same thing...

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I'd just rock that system w/SS mesh screens on race days & ditch the big radiator blocking k&n's nicely done guys...
That is my plan, just direct tubes made to the turbo's from the core support with mesh screen over the inlet. I found them easy to make with $100 worth of parts. Mine still uses the stock core support tubes as well so with the cover on looks stock, but I doubt I'll have the cover on at the track.

I can fab up the front mount filters too but his setup looks great & might be a nice "street" intake.
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That is my plan, just direct tubes made to the turbo's from the core support with mesh screen over the inlet. I found them easy to make with $100 worth of parts. Mine still uses the stock core support tubes as well so with the cover on looks stock, but I doubt I'll have the cover on at the track.

I can fab up the front mount filters too but his setup looks great & might be a nice "street" intake.
ya agreed.. The engine covers just add to the entire heatsoak effect on these rigs, ditched mine long ago.. We don't have little portholes showing engine covers like the ZR1
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Hey any updates on the parts and the power they help make/maintain? Any dyno sheets? Also has there been any thought of reproducing any of the parts, specifically the intake setup? It looks like you spent a good amount of time to make something work out nice.
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Any tuning results after all the fancy fabrication??? I was hoping to see how things performed.
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Any tuning results after all the fancy fabrication??? I was hoping to see how things performed.
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Hey any updates on the parts and the power they help make/maintain? Any dyno sheets? Also has there been any thought of reproducing any of the parts, specifically the intake setup? It looks like you spent a good amount of time to make something work out nice.
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Any tuning results after all the fancy fabrication??? I was hoping to see how things performed.
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No plans to develop these parts. I was hoping that some of you guys would get some ideas from what we did and expand upon it. We had lots of calls from people interested that said they were going to stop by with their cars but nobody ever came in so we decided it's definitely not something we are going to pursue. I look forward to seeing how you guys expand upon it though.
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I doubt you will answer this but I will ask anyways. How did you get the tubes in front of the radiator to attach to the radiator and seal good?
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I doubt you will answer this but I will ask anyways. How did you get the tubes in front of the radiator to attach to the radiator and seal good?
We utilized the factory plastic intake openings that are on each side of the radiator.
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We utilized the factory plastic intake openings that are on each side of the radiator.
I figure it out from the pics. Did you remove the power steering cooler? Are your filters 3 or 4 inch outlets?
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We just lowered the cooler and we used 4" inlets I believe.
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Do you have any before and after changes in power to share? Dyno, track or datalog? The filter setup has to be a big help, but I was wondering if you had any pressure drop feeding the air through the intercoolers the long way. Also do you think there would be much to gain by increasing the piping size off the turbo discharge? Again, thanks for sharing.
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Originally Posted by Staff@WORLD
We just lowered the cooler and we used 4" inlets I believe.
You are ****ing badass for answering my questions!! Im currently making one now but I just cant get the radial right to make anything bigger then 2.5 with my fab skillz. Did you grind any of the inner grill down? I just cant decide if I should just use this 2.5 or if I should try and make it 3. I just dont think its going to look as pretty.

On the other side of the radiator I would assume you just did a J bend with a 3 to 2.25 coupler?

Who do you buy your cores from for the W/A? Bell?
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It looks like its a 2.5" 45 deg pipe cut on an angle so the heel(outside of elbow) can clear the head light. its ripped in half to open up and filled with the rolled triangular pieces on the sides to make up the height of the oval at the radiator support. Don't forget they did some cutting (marked in white) to give the filters and piping room to drop down as they turn inward. Look at these pics again. https://mbworld.org/forums/6005380-post25.html The stock opening is equivalent to a 4" diameter despite the odd shape. (I stretch a string around to measure its the same circumference as a 4" round). If you were to make an adapter to the radiator support, it may be easier to do the bumper support cutting and and use a short piece of flexible 4" tubing to the filter. That's what I see if that is any help.
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Here is mine. I had a hard time making the radius with 3 inch so I just used 2.5 in front of the radiator. Maybe I will redo it in the future. Still got to paint it and find some different filters but it should work.


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