Front camber arms?
11-22-2016, 07:03 PM
#26
man I don't get it. The washer def wouldn't sit flat when in the negative camber position. I even tried it from the other way and same scenario, it wouldn't sit flat.
Edit - it also doesn't say anything about airmatic suspensions
Edit - it also doesn't say anything about airmatic suspensions
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11-22-2016, 07:07 PM
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this is really weird , we need to get a hold of KP1 guy to give us any ideas
Edit - it say ALL front with 14 mm bolts. i would think they meant all w212 within 10-14 year make , including airmatic
Edit - it say ALL front with 14 mm bolts. i would think they meant all w212 within 10-14 year make , including airmatic
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11-22-2016, 07:24 PM
#28
KP1 has an E350 and has 2 bolts (one above the other) where we only have 1 :/
Maybe if I loosen the lower 2 bolts and then adjust the camber bolt to my desired spec (max negative), then re-tighten the lower 2 bolts it will work.
Maybe if I loosen the lower 2 bolts and then adjust the camber bolt to my desired spec (max negative), then re-tighten the lower 2 bolts it will work.
11-23-2016, 12:44 PM
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so it worked then? nice , good news!
just need to get rid off that tab on the washer. and you still put it in the same direction the old one was? the bolt head is out?
yea i see the gap space was changing.
gonna wait for your rear bushings or going to do the alignment?
man im excited atleast about front ones.
hope bolts and alignment will eliminate uneven tire wear.
just need to get rid off that tab on the washer. and you still put it in the same direction the old one was? the bolt head is out?
yea i see the gap space was changing.
gonna wait for your rear bushings or going to do the alignment?
man im excited atleast about front ones.
hope bolts and alignment will eliminate uneven tire wear.
11-23-2016, 12:57 PM
#40
Yup put the camber bolt in the same direction as the old one. Bolt head facing front of car.
I have rear camber arms (Lykt) installed on the car already so now I just gotta do the other front side and check results. I won't get to the other front side until after Thanksgiving. I'm going out of town in about 1 hour.
But yeah I'm pretty happy with results.
I have rear camber arms (Lykt) installed on the car already so now I just gotta do the other front side and check results. I won't get to the other front side until after Thanksgiving. I'm going out of town in about 1 hour.
But yeah I'm pretty happy with results.
11-23-2016, 01:08 PM
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11-23-2016, 01:21 PM
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Yup put the camber bolt in the same direction as the old one. Bolt head facing front of car.
I have rear camber arms (Lykt) installed on the car already so now I just gotta do the other front side and check results. I won't get to the other front side until after Thanksgiving. I'm going out of town in about 1 hour.
But yeah I'm pretty happy with results.
I have rear camber arms (Lykt) installed on the car already so now I just gotta do the other front side and check results. I won't get to the other front side until after Thanksgiving. I'm going out of town in about 1 hour.
But yeah I'm pretty happy with results.
have a good one.
yea the thing that sticks out on the washer. i think he meant
something like this in the pics right? (not an actual pic of the washer)
11-23-2016, 02:06 PM
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One locator (tab) goes inside the bolt hole and if you remove it you render the bolt cam useless. The external tab is intended to indicate where the locator tab is in the hole, and you could remove that, but why? It's there so you have a way to conveniently clock the locator tab.
11-23-2016, 02:08 PM
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One locator (tab) goes inside the bolt hole and if you remove it you render the bolt cam useless. The external tab is intended to indicate where the locator tab is in the hole, and you could remove that, but why? It's there so you have a way to conveniently clock the locator tab.
11-23-2016, 04:51 PM
#46
The washer wouldn't sit flat with the external tab (handle) on it (I posted a picture of that on page 1). It was hitting the strut mount.
Now with the handle removed from the washer it sits flush and works as intended.
Now with the handle removed from the washer it sits flush and works as intended.
11-29-2016, 11:02 PM
#47
UPDATE:
Went to finish up the install and have now encountered another problem which leads me to believe that these bolts are definitely not made for airmatic E550's.
You can see in the picture below that the "lobe" of the camber bolt extends past the knuckle/strut mount (circled in red) thus not letting the bolt to ever be tightened against the knuckle/strut mount. I've also attached measurements showing the camber bolt nut screwed all the way down (22.29mm) exceeds the length of the knuckle/strut mount (20.13mm).
I think I will add a washer so that the nut can be torqued down.
Went to finish up the install and have now encountered another problem which leads me to believe that these bolts are definitely not made for airmatic E550's.
You can see in the picture below that the "lobe" of the camber bolt extends past the knuckle/strut mount (circled in red) thus not letting the bolt to ever be tightened against the knuckle/strut mount. I've also attached measurements showing the camber bolt nut screwed all the way down (22.29mm) exceeds the length of the knuckle/strut mount (20.13mm).
I think I will add a washer so that the nut can be torqued down.
11-30-2016, 02:21 AM
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Chris, is your goal to get more negative camber/tuck with your setup or to bring things back in line and square to account for a lowered suspension?
I could be totally off base (and am admittedly my knowledge on the topic is somewhat limited), but could this set be utilized to square things up and allow for more even tire wear vs the super aggressive appearance/stance it seems you may be going for?
Forgive me if I'm totally off base. I think Belarus and I are trying to accomplish the same thing but I am unsure of your motives
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I suppose either way, if it will pull yours in, it can push ours out! Between these bolts being a success and the specialty products bushing set for the rear I'm extremely excited. The other vendor (I forget the name) you referenced in this thread earlier was close to 1k for the front and rear package when I looked a while ago. sub 150 bucks + alignment I can totally handle!!! I'll be watching this thread CLOSELY the next week. My blizzaks and the soft compound rubber don't handle camber very well
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Thank you for posting all of this!
Cheers!
I could be totally off base (and am admittedly my knowledge on the topic is somewhat limited), but could this set be utilized to square things up and allow for more even tire wear vs the super aggressive appearance/stance it seems you may be going for?
Forgive me if I'm totally off base. I think Belarus and I are trying to accomplish the same thing but I am unsure of your motives
.I suppose either way, if it will pull yours in, it can push ours out! Between these bolts being a success and the specialty products bushing set for the rear I'm extremely excited. The other vendor (I forget the name) you referenced in this thread earlier was close to 1k for the front and rear package when I looked a while ago. sub 150 bucks + alignment I can totally handle!!! I'll be watching this thread CLOSELY the next week. My blizzaks and the soft compound rubber don't handle camber very well
.Thank you for posting all of this!
Cheers!
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11-30-2016, 02:40 AM
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Dang thats too many issues with these , a lot of modifications.
Dont dealer have the right bolts for about 30 bucks , that maybe be worth it , or ima try looking on ebay tomorrow , see what else is available.
Let us know how that washer thing worked out.
Dont dealer have the right bolts for about 30 bucks , that maybe be worth it , or ima try looking on ebay tomorrow , see what else is available.
Let us know how that washer thing worked out.
11-30-2016, 02:46 AM
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As far as too many issues, as far as I can tell it's pretty straight forward... take a dremel tool, cut off the exterior "handle", and install. add a small washer to allow torquing down the nuts.
That said, they are about 30/pair shipped on ebay. My lack of patience (and fact I'm going to have the wheels off the car in the next few days to do my brakes) would offer a super convenient time to get in there are knock out these items as well..... (discount at the local stealership parts counter doesn't hurt). haha.
