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LS-190 **V8 engine swap with pics**

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Old Oct 26, 2007 | 12:55 AM
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Just a quick suggestion if I may. You mentioned (and I see) that you used a GTO front-sump oil pan. A problem with the sump being in front of the steering rack is that there is nothing to deflect road debris away from the oil pan like there is on the F-body and Vette. Anything with any kind of mass gets up between the radiator and oil pan (or if you overrun onto a parking berm), and you could be looking at some pan damage.

GTOs shipped with a skidplate that protects the vulnerable oil pan specifically to address this issue. You might consider fabbing up a shield of some sort, or retrofitting GM Part #92078567 (which would require a call to Australia, and probably not as effective as a custom fab for your project). More info and pictures here: http://www.ls2gto.com/forums/showthr...te+part+number

A lot of people over on LS1GTO.com pull their skids off as a weight saving measure, but I know of at least one person who actually saw a benefit from it when things went upside down during a meet-n-greet demo ride. Just something to consider.

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Old Oct 26, 2007 | 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Firemane
Anything with any kind of mass gets up between the radiator and oil pan (or if you overrun onto a parking berm), and you could be looking at some pan damage.
The front crossmember sits lower than the oil pan. But I will most likely make an aluminum skid plate for the sump.
Also my front bumper will make a very loud noise if I hit a parking berm, telling me to hit the brakes.
Only going to really get on this car on the freeway, nice and flat.
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Old Oct 26, 2007 | 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Gen3Benz
The front crossmember sits lower than the oil pan. But I will most likely make an aluminum skid plate for the sump.
Also my front bumper will make a very loud noise if I hit a parking berm, telling me to hit the brakes.
Only going to really get on this car on the freeway, nice and flat.
Ah, I see that now. I saw the pic with the engine placed before the crossmember was added, but the one right below that pic shows what you mean. My bad. Carry on then...!
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Old Oct 29, 2007 | 06:58 PM
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that youtube link made me giggle. I love horsepower cars and miss my jetta very much. I know jetta... but with a vr6 and a gt35/40r turbo I made a bit over 500whp. Shocked the **** out of people, as I assume your car will. LOVE the project, absolutely awesome!! I will be watching. Can I see pics of the whole car?
Thanks andrew
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Old Oct 30, 2007 | 12:53 AM
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Can I see pics of the whole car?
I have to put my 19's on and springs back in to get the full effect.
Not much of a looker right now.

bad wheels, bad paint, bad fender gaps, lots of bad.
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Old Nov 7, 2007 | 10:38 AM
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lots of bad?? You have a sick motor in it. Its a start. Plus the evo kit in nice. What are the plans for the outside?
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Old Nov 7, 2007 | 02:56 PM
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lots of bad?? You have a sick motor in it. Its a start. Plus the evo kit in nice. What are the plans for the outside?
Bright white paint, know a guy who will do the paint and body for a good price.
Lower the suspension and put on my 19's
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Old Nov 8, 2007 | 03:18 AM
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Originally Posted by phxtravis
A chevy V8? are you kidding me? Should've put a Rotary in it
Autoweek 11/5/2007: Mazda Celebrates 40 years of Rotary Thinking...

LOL, doesnt work, back to the drawing board, doesnt work again, back to the drawing board....you would think that they would learn after 40 years.

I dont mean to hyjack your thread on that Gen3Benz.

Originally Posted by Gen3Benz
Only going to really get on this car on the freeway, nice and flat.
I know the perfect place...Who will paint it? Ivan? I have been thinking about painting my coupe. When that diesel motor blows up, its going to get a V8!
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 01:38 PM
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Old Feb 11, 2008 | 02:47 AM
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i am going to be putting v-8's into two 190e's.just wondering if you want to give up some knowledge? possibly make a couple more x-members or ? also what do you have invested in that rack+pinion?
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Old Feb 11, 2008 | 03:04 PM
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wow, awesome project...
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Old Feb 16, 2008 | 12:13 PM
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I would like to see a video once the car is done.
are you doing the work or a shop is doing it for you?
Good jod looks well done
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Old Feb 17, 2008 | 06:02 PM
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It's been a while since I have updated...
tanktube67,
Cant wait to make vids of the car driving.
It moves on its own power now, no more pushing.
I do all the work on the weekends at my shop.

Now for some pics...
Mounted an aluminum expansion tank with some tabs welded to the bulkhead, need to repaint a little.
LS-190 **V8 engine swap with pics**-expansiontank.jpg

Used some heat shrink hose clamps on the coolant tee's, look pretty sweet IMO.
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Painted the removable center bulkhead piece and mounted the flexible trans dipstick and passenger side brake line.
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Made some custom brake lines, also my 180 degree braided fuel line fittings. I need to do something about the ugly master cylinder reservoir, this works for now.
LS-190 **V8 engine swap with pics**-brakelines.jpg

Running low speed fans(20A) through ballest resistor and high speed fans(40A) through 80A continuous duty relay.
They both have thier own relay in the fusebox, controlled by the PCM which I have reprogrammed to run a 2-speed single instead of 2-speed double fan setup.
The large battery cable going towards the engine routes all the way to a firewall pass-through next to the starter. I ran an SL battery cable from the other side to the trunk.
LS-190 **V8 engine swap with pics**-fusebox_fanwiring.jpg

Had a guy at a body shop I know paint the front fenders...
LS-190 **V8 engine swap with pics**-fenders.jpg

and front bumper.
LS-190 **V8 engine swap with pics**-bumper.jpg

The rest of the car will be painted soon, now that I can move the car without pushing.
Slowly but surely.

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Old Feb 17, 2008 | 07:04 PM
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Adam, its coming along well. What is a good source for AN fittings as you have?
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Old Feb 18, 2008 | 01:54 AM
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Originally Posted by omegabenz6
Adam, its coming along well. What is a good source for AN fittings as you have?
Austin, PM me your phone number so I can call you about the strut bar and shock mount setup.
I got the fittings and hose at Pluming department @ summit racing
Army Navy(AN) everything, but your gonna have to learn to measure in 1/16th of an inch and not MM's
The trans cooler lines will be braided steel also, still need to find the perfect trans cooler.

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Old Feb 18, 2008 | 06:09 PM
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any news here?
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Old Feb 19, 2008 | 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by weneakhborz
any news here?
No news since my last update a few days ago ^^^
Im gonna work on the painters car while he strips some of the body kit panels off to prep them.
I need to take a bunch of pics of the crappy bodywork before its transformation.
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Old Feb 21, 2008 | 07:43 PM
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Keep us updated. This is a really cool project
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Old Feb 21, 2008 | 08:16 PM
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Old Feb 22, 2008 | 04:14 PM
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Wow. Very cool project.
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Old Mar 6, 2008 | 02:40 AM
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Old Mar 6, 2008 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by TruTaing
updates?
Pretty much just got all the widebody rear fender flairs off.
Previous owner did a major hackjob putting the kit on.
Already started cutting one side to make room for the 10.5" rear wheels.
Took the trunk lid and rear bumper home from the paint shop.
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Old Mar 6, 2008 | 03:57 PM
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BADASS car dood!!
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Old Mar 13, 2008 | 06:45 AM
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i now drive a ford p71 i also own a 1988 ford f150 lariat
now that is freeking sick looking awsome work
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Old Mar 20, 2008 | 10:35 PM
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