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m104 engine swap for w201?

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Old Nov 20, 2008 | 07:43 PM
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Exclamation m104 engine swap for w201?

I own a 85 190e 2.3 5-speed. I just bought a 97 c280 wrecked for $300. What is going to take to get the m104 running in the w201. I know about changing the rad supports and the flywheel issue. What i really need to know is how to wire up the ecu. i know about standalone systems but i am trying to make that my last option i have a whole car to work with i would like to go with that. I apreciate everone's help!
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Old Dec 3, 2008 | 01:03 PM
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I dont think anyone on here will know how to do this. No offense. There is a lot of knowledge on this forum. But, for what you want to do, you might want to try http://community.190revolution.net/ They are a site specifically devoted to w201. That community has more knowledge of engine swaps I believe. They do a lot of crazy mods over there.
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Old Dec 3, 2008 | 02:44 PM
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He's already been there.

Basically, he's working with the wrong chassis. Putting the M104 into the 4 banger chassis is much harder than putting into the 2.6L, which is almost "plug and play."
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Old Dec 3, 2008 | 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by MTI
He's already been there.

Basically, he's working with the wrong chassis. Putting the M104 into the 4 banger chassis is much harder than putting into the 2.6L, which is almost "plug and play."
Plug and play....

Maybe he should by my 190 2.6. I have the 1st gear start and LSD/rear locking option.
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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 02:25 PM
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question out of topic... how do you really get a drift going? I get a peel out once in a while, reverse peel out work all the time, but going forward is more difficult.... any help?
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Old Dec 16, 2008 | 11:36 AM
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question out of topic... how do you really get a drift going? I get a peel out once in a while, reverse peel out work all the time, but going forward is more difficult.... any help?
you dont. I dont want to sound like an *** but you just dont. Btw, is your car a 2.3 5speed or is it a 4speed auto
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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 11:40 PM
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you dont. I dont want to sound like an *** but you just dont. Btw, is your car a 2.3 5speed or is it a 4speed auto
Are you trying to say you cant drift a 190? or are you trying to say you cant drift HIS 190. I drift in mine. Its one of the reasons I bought the car.
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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 11:45 PM
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question out of topic... how do you really get a drift going? I get a peel out once in a while, reverse peel out work all the time, but going forward is more difficult.... any help?
You're not going to be fast enough to spin the tires off the line in this car unless you are doing something really wrong or its very wet.

I usually start my drifts between 20-40 mph. depending on road condition, how much space I have and traffic. It can be done in the 190 2.6. Its a lot of fun but it really wears out the car very fast. These cars are old and when you put that much weight onto parts of a car that weren't build to have that kind of weight put on it, you start messing things up.

If you want to learn how to drift, you first start by watching how to video's, then really understanding the concept of what you are doing and how it works, then you just try it. If you don't hit anything, you try it again. You do it till you figure it out.
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Are you trying to say you cant drift a 190? or are you trying to say you cant drift HIS 190. I drift in mine. Its one of the reasons I bought the car.
well, I'm looking to buy one as well... What i mean is, if you don't already know how to get a power slide going don't attempt it. Its basic car control to know how to power over in a turn to get a slide going. Then its basic balance to get the car to do what ever you want.
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