190E (W201) 1982-1993: 190E 2.3, 190E 2.6, 190E 2.3-16, 190E 2.5-16, 190 D 2.2, 190 D 2.5, 190 D 2.5 TURBO, 190E 2.5-16 Evolution I, 190E 2.5-16 Evolution II

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Old Feb 18, 2005 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Matteus
You got a point there,
however... Nasscmw already has a 2.5-16, why would he get a 2.3-16???
The response was to the other member, lowbenz89. The only "negative" to the twincam being turbo'd is the compression ratio on the Euro models are a notch or two higher than the North American units. The original 2.3-16 was originally designed to deliver 320HP for Mercedes' planned rallye effort, but was scaled back to 185HP. Sort of makes you wonder, doesn't it?
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Old Feb 18, 2005 | 12:56 PM
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Hey that's the thing, if the engine was designed to get 320, how do you get the 320hp? Stroker kit and cam? With turbo/super chargers?
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Old Feb 18, 2005 | 02:31 PM
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Obviously, it can be done expensively, with a normaly aspirated engine. The early 2.5-16 in the DTM cars put out 330HP, while the EVO II DTM cars has 373HP. Later, the 1994 six cylinder DTM's (2.5L) put out over 400HP.
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Old Feb 18, 2005 | 05:44 PM
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turbo 2.6

even on 190revolution.net there's alot of topics concerning turbos but nothing very clear and no completed project.... that's not good

Custom manifold, downpipe, turbo, intercooler, piping, BOV boost controller are not major problems... But fuel management.... i'm not familiar with the one I have on me 2.6 sportline 1989... It's not a electronic fuel injection system and I dont know if I realy have to replace it and replace the injectors as well....
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Old Feb 18, 2005 | 07:11 PM
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The fuel injection system in the W201 is just a normal flavor Bosch KE-Jetronic and EZL electronic ignition system. Unlike modern EFI systems, the primary capability that the system has is to meter fuel based on the air temperature.
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Old Feb 18, 2005 | 07:25 PM
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I'd go C43 and standalone. I'd probably consider turbo and inline six but they are known to blow head gaskets with boost even when head is studded. C43 and standalone is the tix.HP can be programmed for way more than the 302hp the C43 motor produces. This is the truth and if it sells my motor ,I know you're getting reliable hp.Just something to consider.Especially if you Supercharge the C43 motor.425+hp.Ever heard of the 190E AMG with the 6.0L motor? A beast!
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Old Feb 20, 2005 | 07:10 PM
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Transplant an engine and transmission from a C32. 350 HP or more with tweeks, lightweight, should fit nicely. That is what I want to do with my 190 when I get the funds.
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Old Feb 21, 2005 | 08:45 AM
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Put a diesel engine with a BIG turbo. https://mbworld.org/forums/performance-upgrades-tuning/86806-do-you-think-diesels-suck-watch.html
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Old Feb 21, 2005 | 11:03 AM
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C43 motor better. NA or supercharged. Turbo Diesel is nice but the smoke and smell of the exhaust Not for me. I'd go gasoline inline turbo 6 as a 2nd option but possible head gasket issues have been known to arise.
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Old Feb 22, 2005 | 07:09 AM
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So, as much as i'd like to drop in a massive V8 or huge straight six.. I think the cost would more than out weigh the result... So I'm kinda interested in changing the KE jet tronic for something a little more efficient.. Hoping for a BHP and torque jump...

Anyone point me in the direction of a company in the UK or Europe that could retro fit one of these Kits and aprox. cost?
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Old Feb 22, 2005 | 01:57 PM
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So, as much as i'd like to drop in a massive V8 or huge straight six.. I think the cost would more than out weigh the result... So I'm kinda interested in changing the KE jet tronic for something a little more efficient.. Hoping for a BHP and torque jump...

Anyone point me in the direction of a company in the UK or Europe that could retro fit one of these Kits and aprox. cost?
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Use a Motronic system with the V8
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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 04:31 PM
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is it worth

whats up guys im new to the forum....i love my 16 valve...is it worth it to put a turbo charger in my 16vlv i was at that mosselman website....and there were no prices listed how much would the turbo charger go for my car
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