Will these wheels fit?




You are already in a bit of a pickle with a set of 21 ET and 35 ET rims. That changes the tracking. Your 21 ET is a bit much for the on the front anyway and will need a lot of adjusting to make them work.
35's are OK an good for the front but you can not correct for the 21 ET.
the 21's in the rear may even rub depending on tire size especially with weight in the trunk.
I would really not advise trying to make these rims work. Too much trouble, but it seems you just bought michelin tires for them. Can you remind us what tire size did you fit?




Like you say I can probably tape and polish them off gently. I will try a small section.
Seems someone tried to repair your pin stipes and I agree they may not have been originally done at the dealership. I had not seen a two tone like yours. For a black interior one maybe just an orange stripe would look good. But tastes differ.
PDR is the way to go. You might even decide not to paint the car after that. I did mine 3-4 years back and I probably had 20-30 door dings from years of usage. They almost came out perfectly. You should take your door cards off yourself, don't trust the PDR guy, he is not going to know your car like you do and will mess up the cards.
Last edited by dolucasi; Oct 27, 2023 at 12:02 AM. Reason: added PDR comment




(1) Does the car look like it was in the showroom on day one
(2) Is the car somewhat rare
Notice that I did not mention ownership. They did not care that I was the original owner. Actually of the 3 trophy cars in my preservation class and the 2 cars in the Sacco class (I do not remember the 3rd Sacco) all 5/5 had less than 1 year ownership, I know because I talked to all 5. I did not converse with the second place Sacco. Sacco 1st place was a 87 Cosworth (no surprize) and 3rd place was a 93 Sportline, both black. Oh and they do not seem to like red cars. I got that feeling. My car probably would have done better in the Sacco class but in my opinion not worth a prize because of the shortcomings I mentioned earlier. BTW the other Sacco cars were not perfect either, plenty of flaws but they are rare cars, that is a big plus.
Last edited by dolucasi; Oct 28, 2023 at 12:58 AM.




I have 185/65/15 all around….these are the same wheels and tire size that were on the car when I got it in 2019. I do know it was driven from 97k to 112k miles with these wheels before never leaving garage
Bummer, but I mean worst case I slap these new tires onto my OE gullies
I haven’t had any evidence of rubbing in the rear after all this time and atleast one side of the car had each of the offset sizes on it.
i only carry my bag of tools and extra fluids, my trunk is usually clear and I treat my car like a 2 seater when it comes to passengers

Last edited by BetterDaze; Oct 27, 2023 at 07:17 AM.




I have 185/65/15 all around….these are the same wheels and tire size that were on the car when I got it in 2019. I do know it was driven from 97k to 112k miles with these wheels before never leaving garage
Bummer, but I mean worst case I slap these new tires onto my OE gullies
I haven’t had any evidence of rubbing in the rear after all this time and at least one side of the car had each of the offset sizes on it.
i only carry my bag of tools and extra fluids, my trunk is usually clear and I treat my car like a 2 seater when it comes to passengers

Yeah your PDR guy is not 100% PDR. Any PDR person that even mentions bondo is just a painter who has a couple of PDR tools. A tru PDR person will refer you to a body shop if they think they can not fix a dent.
When I got mine done I marked all dings with tape and asked him to fix all those that are marked.
The only issue with PDR is you have to remove the nylon humidity barrier for the doors. In my case a couple were already ripped so I made my own nylon to replace them and used double sided thin 3M tape to install them. You can also buy the already made replacement nylon at the dealership. Had I known this I would have just bought them there, a lot less work.
Last edited by dolucasi; Oct 27, 2023 at 11:27 AM.
(1) Does the car look like it was in the showroom on day one
(2) Is the care somewhat rare
Notice that I did not mention ownership. They did not care that I was the original owner. Actually of the 3 trophy cars in my preservation class and the 2 cars in the Sacco class (I do not remember the 3rd Sacco) all 5/5 had less than 1 year ownership, I know because I talked to all 5. I did not converse with the second place Sacco. Sacco 1st place was a 87 Cosworth (no surprize) and 3rd place was a 93 Sportline, both black. Oh and they do not seem to like red cars. I got that feeling. My car probably would have done better in the Sacco class but in my opinion not worth a prize because of the shortcomings I mentioned earlier. BTW the other Sacco cars were not perfect either, plenty of flaws but they are rare cars, that is a big plus.
I have 185/65/15 all around….these are the same wheels and tire size that were on the car when I got it in 2019. I do know it was driven from 97k to 112k miles with these wheels before never leaving garage
Bummer, but I mean worst case I slap these new tires onto my OE gullies
I haven’t had any evidence of rubbing in the rear after all this time and atleast one side of the car had each of the offset sizes on it.
i only carry my bag of tools and extra fluids, my trunk is usually clear and I treat my car like a 2 seater when it comes to passengers





I have the same wheels on the car as before I owned it. These are decisions I did not make myself but the PO and very long ago
The tires I bought will also fit my stock wheels as they are the stock size, I will likely go back to those in near future.
The front wheels with 35mm offset should not rub with spacer or a 55 tire but like you both said it is too much work to do all that. They only rubbed before if I hit the bottom of an decline too fast, never when turning
Last edited by BetterDaze; Oct 27, 2023 at 03:24 PM.
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I have the same wheels on the car as before I owned it. These are decisions I did not make myself but the PO and very long ago
The tires I bought will also fit my stock wheels as they are the stock size, I will likely go back to those in near future.
The front wheels with 35mm offset should not rub with spacer or a 55 tire but like you both said it is too much work to do all that. They only rubbed before if I hit the bottom of an decline too fast, never when turning



I've heard the same about the pinstripe painter in the SF Bay Area, my friend that manages a collision/auto shop mentioned that he knew of that guy. Seems like they did them primarily at South Bay/Peninsula dealers. My car was Oakland delivered, and from what I've seen of other SF/Oakland Benz cars, none seem to have pinstripes, since both dealers were same owner.
Couple years ago I brought him another friend's W124 E320 that had been sideswiped. This car is spruce green w/ gold pinstripe. Since they had to repaint both doors, my friend wanted the pinstripe put back, so they were re-done in an almost identical vinyl.
Another friend has a 400E with the model number painted into the pinstripe on the rear quarter panels.








If it does come off you want to polish and wax the same area after
Last edited by BetterDaze; Oct 30, 2023 at 05:40 PM.
I've heard the same about the pinstripe painter in the SF Bay Area, my friend that manages a collision/auto shop mentioned that he knew of that guy. Seems like they did them primarily at South Bay/Peninsula dealers. My car was Oakland delivered, and from what I've seen of other SF/Oakland Benz cars, none seem to have pinstripes, since both dealers were same owner.
Couple years ago I brought him another friend's W124 E320 that had been sideswiped. This car is spruce green w/ gold pinstripe. Since they had to repaint both doors, my friend wanted the pinstripe put back, so they were re-done in an almost identical vinyl.
Another friend has a 400E with the model number painted into the pinstripe on the rear quarter panels.




Seems some of the deductions are left to the judge. Let's say they are judging a Cossworth 2.5L at 5K miles in showroom condition. Are they really going to deduct for plain water in reservoir? I think not.
Seems some of the deductions are left to the judge. Let's say they are judging a Cossworth 2.5L at 5K miles in showroom condition. Are they really going to deduct for plain water in reservoir? I think not.



