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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 10:30 AM
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Expected gains from asp pulley

Guys, just recieved asp pulley but my tech has told me that he needs expected boost/psi increase so he can fine tune ecu.

Any help/info appreciated

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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 10:33 AM
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Boost goes from 11psi to 14psi-14.5psi depending on belt ...

If you can fit teh Jag XKR belt when you install the pulley.

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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 10:40 AM
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Steve,

Your so quick in replying to my threads i o u big time.
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 11:00 AM
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 02:25 PM
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start looking for the IC pump

and soon you will have more options on bigger IC HE cores..

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I just completed a custom job on my E.

stock core holds around 28 oz of water

new core holds around 80 oz of water

with johnson cm30 pump... and stock hoses.

car is running healthy! You can hear your blower working everytime you step on the gas.

ASP without any cooling mods for the ITA temps is not going to be fun.
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by stevebez
Boost goes from 11psi to 14psi-14.5psi depending on belt ...

If you can fit teh Jag XKR belt when you install the pulley.
I'm planning to do this next, but $70 for a belt seems a bit high for a belt.
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by andy_cyp
Guys, just recieved asp pulley but my tech has told me that he needs expected boost/psi increase so he can fine tune ecu.

Any help/info appreciated

TIA
Tia,

If he's asking for pulley specs I suggest not having him tune your car period. Any reputable tuner should have experience with the main pulley combinations and if not, I would not suggest using your car as a test mule.

If he is in fact tuning your ECU with a pulley he's not familiar with, such should be done on a dyno with an air/fuel meter hooked up. This will eliminate the need to know boost/psi increase all together.

Let me know if you have any further questions, I'll be here to help.

Sincerely,

Aaron

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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by TopGun32
start looking for the IC pump

and soon you will have more options on bigger IC HE cores..

-----------------------------------------------------

I just completed a custom job on my E.

stock core holds around 28 oz of water

new core holds around 80 oz of water

with johnson cm30 pump... and stock hoses.

car is running healthy! You can hear your blower working everytime you step on the gas.

ASP without any cooling mods for the ITA temps is not going to be fun.
Excellent.
Care to share which core did you choose?

Thanks,

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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 03:28 PM
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Excellent.
Care to share which core did you choose?

Thanks,

its based on the Cobra SVT unit.. but adapted the inlet/outlet pipes to line up with our hoses. Bolts on to the frame of the car.

The developmer is Code3Smith and he become a sponsor very soon.

prices are going to be very reasonable.. Under $1k for sure... probably a couple of 100's south of $1k

I'll take some pics today of grill

The car responds almost at every stab of the pedal and you don't feel the engine robbing power as before.
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 03:39 PM
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i have been contemplating an ASP Pulley for just about 1 year. I have always had a concern about heat especially being in the dessert.

I just need to pull the trigger

p.s

TOPGUN:
has there been a thread started about the heat exchanger you're talking about? If not, fire a new thread up. Is that old news?
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 03:42 PM
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I'll let Brandon /Code3smith on this board present his product.

we took pictures yesterday and measured volume (stock vs new Unit)

we didn't have time to take ITA readings, but we will soon.

Its very clear to me.. that the new unit works.

I'll send him a PM to start a thread.
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 03:51 PM
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you mention less than 1K.

It's a shame that most mods that we can accomplish cost over $1,000

Any mod less than 1k that actually show proven results wins my money
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 04:23 PM
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I just wanted to chime in real quick. The unit was developed from scratch. The Cobra unit has nothing to with my unit, other than in spirit. It is all aluminum, dual pass, 10 row bar and plate, lines up with stock hoses perfectly, aluminum brackets welded to the top of the core for strength, and bolts up to the underside of the bumper. The stock unit holds a measly 28oz, and the new unit holds 80oz (187% increase over stock). It looks awesome in the front bumper of the 55! I cant wait for Joe to post pictures Anyway, I am making some minor bracket adjustments, but otherwise, the unit is developed and will be available very shortly. Here are some teaser pictures. I will start a new thread once my sponsorship starts.




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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 04:56 PM
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Looks nice.

What about the stock oil cooler,where does it mount now?Also how does the air get to the oil cooler,since this HE is blocking the flow?
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 05:00 PM
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VERY nice Brandon!~
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Jrocket
Looks nice.

What about the stock oil cooler,where does it mount now?Also how does the air get to the oil cooler,since this HE is blocking the flow?
The new heat exchanger bolts in right where the old one was. Was there a design change in later years that moved the oil cooler to the front bumper? This was designed on an 03, and I didn't have to do anything with an oil cooler. The larger unit is moved forward, so it might very well clear an oil cooler anyway. Looks like I need to check out a newer model. Anyone have some pictures of the oil cooler?

Air flow through the unit is great. It doesn't block any more air than the stock unit would.
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by code3smith
The new heat exchanger bolts in right where the old one was. Was there a design change in later years that moved the oil cooler to the front bumper? This was designed on an 03, and I didn't have to do anything with an oil cooler. The larger unit is moved forward, so it might very well clear an oil cooler anyway. Looks like I need to check out a newer model. Anyone have some pictures of the oil cooler?

Air flow through the unit is great. It doesn't block any more air than the stock unit would.
Yes the late 04's and up have the oil cooler mounted to the under side of the stock HE.....Heres a pic with the oil cooler in the stock location.The cooler with the black hard lines on both ends.
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by stevebez
Boost goes from 11psi to 14psi-14.5psi depending on belt ...

If you can fit teh Jag XKR belt when you install the pulley.
I have 14.23 PSI at WOT with Wrap kit and ASP...Is it OK...does it means that wrap kit works ???
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 06:09 PM
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Thanks for the pictures Jrocket. Looks like I will need to find an 04+ E55 to get some measurements from. Until then, my unit will only fit the 03s.
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 07:41 PM
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Thanks for the pictures Jrocket. Looks like I will need to find an 04+ E55 to get some measurements from. Until then, my unit will only fit the 03s.
lol, we went through this also. you won't have to change much but i'm glad you caught it before marketing the kits!
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 08:06 PM
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lol, we went through this also. you won't have to change much but i'm glad you caught it before marketing the kits!
I also have a pic of your car with the oil cooler and your larger HE.
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 08:07 PM
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Thanks for the pictures Jrocket. Looks like I will need to find an 04+ E55 to get some measurements from. Until then, my unit will only fit the 03s.
You will need to find out the build date where they changed it.Mine is an early 05 build and it has one.
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 08:36 PM
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Well I just came up with a great idea. Anyone interested in a larger HE that has a built in oil cooler as well? It would be easy as pie to make the bottom of the unit separated as an oil cooler. Thoughts? I should probably start a new thread on this lol.
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 08:49 PM
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Well I just came up with a great idea. Anyone interested in a larger HE that has a built in oil cooler as well? It would be easy as pie to make the bottom of the unit separated as an oil cooler. Thoughts? I should probably start a new thread on this lol.
Have you seen the pics of Chiromikeys larger HE?
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 10:29 PM
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I have no idea who that is. I have a C32, so I know nothing of the E55 world.
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