W211 AMG Discuss the W211 AMG's such as the E55 and the E63

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Old Oct 12, 2013 | 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by OZZYAMG
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Ok did you do the modification to make them work or did you pay someone to do it?

What exact year/month build is your E55?

I am trying to ascertain if some E55's had different plugs depending on when they were built. I heard a rumour all the 2003's and some early 2004's had one style of plug and the later E55's had another style.

I am interested to know how to do the conversion as well.

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03 and 04 models require the converter box. Sometime in the 05 build they switched to the newer style that will work without the converter. The connector is different, but other than that it's plug and play. My February/05 built 05 model has the new style button switches.
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Old Oct 12, 2013 | 12:32 AM
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Hi

Thankyou marcmaddox for your great reply, it is appreciated.

So would my May 2003 built E55 have the white 3 pin plugs as standard?

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Old Oct 12, 2013 | 12:36 AM
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Originally Posted by marcmaddox
03 and 04 models require the converter box. Sometime in the 05 build they switched to the newer style that will work without the converter. The connector is different, but other than that it's plug and play. My February/05 built 05 model has the new style button switches.

that is essentially correct. Early e55s used an analog configuration where as later e55s were digital. The converter module re-creates the analog signal(s) so that the new paddles can be used in the early cars.

for those who want to know for sure, you can lift one button out and read the vendor's part number on it then refer to this chart

note:
1) and 4) are the long style buttons (SL, CLK, etc)
2) and 3) pertain to e55 (2 is early, 3 is later)

1) 870273-0000 870273-0001 early (no/nc) long buttons NO "y" harness use PLUG-N-PLAY MODULE

2) 870273-0002 870273-0003 early (no/nc) short buttons w/"y" harness use PLUG-N-PLAY MODULE (-0012 and -0013 same but gray)

3) 870273-0004 870273-0005 later (no/NO) short buttons w/"y" harness PLUG-N-PLAY (but requires adapter "Y" harness)

4) 870273-0010 870273-0011 later (no/NO) long buttons plugs direct already plug-n-play

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Old Oct 14, 2013 | 09:37 AM
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^ Good information.
I was fortunate, my car is a late 2005 therefore no need for the digital converter, just a plug and play for the newer style paddles.
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Old Oct 15, 2013 | 04:34 PM
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I just want to know what you're gonna charge me to rewrap my wheel Berti
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Old Oct 15, 2013 | 04:47 PM
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I have 5 coming in, 3 of which are sold I believe.. I don't re wrap your own. With this you keep your own wheel, comes all ready with pedal shifters installed.. pm me for price
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Old Oct 15, 2013 | 05:37 PM
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So looks like the 2004 guys can do the mod as well without having to buy the converter box by simply just replacing the circuit board.. but if you dont want to deal with all that stuff than you just get the box converter which is OEM plug and play type deal.. your choice

Below i quoted a fellow members pictures the way he did it.. Thank you MJ50,

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ModFever not over yet... LOL

63 paddle shifters installed...
kept 63 circuit board and didn't use expensive adapter...








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Old Oct 15, 2013 | 05:53 PM
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You will also have to grind the inside of the aluminum paddles and plastic base housing if you transfer electronics from the buttons to the paddles.
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Old Oct 15, 2013 | 05:57 PM
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You will also have to grind the inside of the aluminum paddles and plastic base housing if you transfer electronics from the buttons to the paddles.
and if you keep the electronics your fine right shardul?? with the box converter?
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Old Oct 15, 2013 | 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by berti_00
So looks like the 2004 guys can do the mod as well without having to buy the converter box by simply just replacing the circuit board.. but if you dont want to deal with all that stuff than you just get the box converter which is OEM plug and play type deal.. your choice

Below i quoted a fellow members pictures the way he did it.. Thank you MJ50,
nice pics!
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Old Oct 15, 2013 | 06:00 PM
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You will also have to grind the inside of the aluminum paddles and plastic base housing if you transfer electronics from the buttons to the paddles.
63's IC button is way better than 55's IC...
not worth it IMO...

either DIY or get $200 converter box...
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Old Oct 15, 2013 | 06:02 PM
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63's IC button is way better than 55's IC...
not worth it IMO...

either DIY or get $200 converter box...
i personally bought the converter my self which am good and cool with it but just trying to see and help others for whatever route they wana take.
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Old Oct 15, 2013 | 06:03 PM
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nice pics!
i know aren't they lol
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Old Oct 15, 2013 | 06:14 PM
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Hi

I would guess that for the 2003/04 E55 owners it is better to still use the converter box so you have an original steering wheel you can keep as a working spare or even sell if you like.

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Old Oct 15, 2013 | 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by OZZYAMG
I would guess that for the 2003/04 E55 owners it is better to still use the converter box so you have an original steering wheel you can keep as a working spare or even sell if you like.
yes, but i saved $200 (cost of converter box) and still got them to work...
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Old Oct 15, 2013 | 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by MJ50
yes, but i saved $200 (cost of converter box) and still got them to work...
Hi

If I follow your approach will I still have a totally 100% functional original steering wheel that I can keep as a spare or sell as a 100% working steering wheel if I like?

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Old Oct 15, 2013 | 06:35 PM
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If I follow your approach will I still have a totally 100% functional original steering wheel that I can keep as a spare or sell as a 100% working steering wheel if I like?

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no, the base of 63 paddle shifter is longer than 55... thus, u need to cut the back of the stock steering wheel...
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Old Oct 15, 2013 | 06:37 PM
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Thank MJ350 for your explanation on that.

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Old Oct 15, 2013 | 07:58 PM
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Worth pointing out, the paddle converter comes with paddle mounting screws and a template for modifying the pockets in the wheel.

While some of the integrations of amg55 button guts into AMG63 paddles are pretty impressive (pics above may be the best I've seen) ... there is always a concern about "feel" .... so, I created this electronic solution (converter box) because I wanted a bullet-proof plug and play solution that does not require upsetting the perfect feel of the AMG 63 paddle nor does it potentially compromise the structural integrity of the paddle.

I am happy to answer any questions about the module or installing paddles . I have modified more than 100 wheels for paddles and I have pics, etc if anyone needs a little help with this.

Cheers,
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Old Oct 15, 2013 | 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by latemodel21
Worth pointing out, the paddle converter comes with paddle mounting screws and a template for modifying the pockets in the wheel.

While some of the integrations of amg55 button guts into AMG63 paddles are pretty impressive (pics above may be the best I've seen) ... there is always a concern about "feel" .... so, I created this electronic solution (converter box) because I wanted a bullet-proof plug and play solution that does not require upsetting the perfect feel of the AMG 63 paddle nor does it potentially compromise the structural integrity of the paddle.

I am happy to answer any questions about the module or installing paddles . I have modified more than 100 wheels for paddles and I have pics, etc if anyone needs a little help with this.

Cheers,
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How do i get this kit? my dad needs it.
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Old Oct 15, 2013 | 08:21 PM
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do you know when you'll get delivery on the wheels?
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Old Oct 15, 2013 | 08:32 PM
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How do i get this kit? my dad needs it.
It is available through several forum sponsors including DCT motorsports. If you are in europe, contact comandonline.uk or you can contact me directly by PM if you like.

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Old Oct 15, 2013 | 09:42 PM
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Guys,

If you are in the USofA have Chris do your conversion, he did mine and it is Flawless, fantastic mod.... He does All the DCT conversions... Knows his stuff better than anyone....
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Old Oct 16, 2013 | 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by latemodel21
It is available through several forum sponsors including DCT motorsports. If you are in europe, contact comandonline.uk or you can contact me directly by PM if you like.

Cheers,
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Thanks Chris! I'll pass it along
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Old Oct 16, 2013 | 02:02 AM
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My steering wheel will work with anyone that has 05 or 06 with nothing needed, not even a converter box, as its already pre fitted there with the black model pedals which are also same base as the 63 pedals.
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