peralex

I do not think that somebody with over 100 positive feedbacks would jeopardise reputation for couple hundred bucks. May be it is just a matter of luck of communication. Unless, unless over hundred feedbacks where posted within past 2-3 weeks and were involving only small, cheap goods. I usually check not only quantuty but also 'quality' of feedbacks.

Richard

I guess that something could have happened to the chap ? 100 good feedbacks takes a lot of trading to get to.

It can take 10-14 days for stuff to get thru US customs from UK - especially if the customs declaration isnt filled in correctly etc etc

R

rgleason

Maybe all of this is what is causing my phone not to arrive, maybe! I doubt it though. Other auction winners have been trying to communicate with the auctioner and he told a couple that their products were in the mail, and recently, people have tried to call him and his phone just rings and rings.

I can't access ebay at present or I'd check to see if some of the auction winners are from the UK. If so, customs wouldn't be the problem. The guy ran/runs a business that he calls Hi Tech Corner Store, and he's located in Welwyn Garden City, Herts. I hope Richard is correct, but I don't think so!

Dick

rgleason

Richard, you said that you got the following parts from parts list:


C (W203) with phone in center console glovebox :-

Bracket A203 820 06 51
Clip A203 823 00 60
Cover A203 823 03 49 (covers cables)
2*Screws A140 990 06 22
Cable (probably not needed for USA) - see dealer


I ordered and received the majority of these parts from Speed Autoteile in Berlin. I think I asked you in a previous post about the clip listed above. They didn't have it and it is on factory backorder. My guess is that that clip holds the phone cradle in the center compartment. See the attached picture. Do you think I am guessing correctly?

Thanks,
Dick

Richard

Thats a picture of the much older phone holder. The new one is much nicer .. So that isnt the clip I was talking about...

I'll try and look at the picture again when I next go to MB dealer and remind myself what the clip is/was

Cheers
R

rgleason

But that's pretty much what the phone cradle that I got looks like. I ordered and received A203 820 06 51, which is I think what you suggested for the Nokia 6310i phone, see below from your 9/6/02 message:

C (W203) with phone in center console glovebox :-

Bracket A203 820 06 51
Clip A203 823 00 60
Cover A203 823 03 49 (covers cables)
2*Screws A140 990 06 22
Cable (probably not needed for USA) - see dealer

I hope I got the right part?

Dick

Richard

Can you send me a picture of the 06 51 part ? That list came from my dealer, and as long as the phone fits in, its the correct part - I want to check to see whetehr you do need any more parts or not for you..

R

rgleason

Sure, I'll send you a picture of both the phone and the bag that it came in (has the part number). But I'll have to wait until I get home tonight. It's 12:05 P.M. my time, and I think 5:05 P.M. or so your time, so you probably won't be able to look at my reply until tomorrow morning (unless you're a night owl!).

I am 99.9% certain that the cradle clips into something. The earpiece has a notch on both the top and the bottom that something clips into.

Dick

Richard

OK, sounds like that clip is what it clips into. And its important, because it turns on/off the car's speakers. (Ie when you pick up the handset for privacy the speakers switch off).

From memory, the picture is of the square type of handset holder. I thought the C class now had the curvy handset holder .. Pictures will reveal all :-)

Cheers

R

rgleason

I have done extensive research on how to install this phone and how to tie the phone into the fiber (fibre) network. This weekend, I finally spent the time to trace what I thought was an unterminated fiber loop that ended in a D2B connector for the VCS/VR. It turns out that what appeared to be two fibers running from the VCS D2B connector to somewhere to the front of the car, were actually #1. The VCS plug with in and out wires connected together, and #2 the radio out fiber (that I don't think is connected at the other end) running to the phone-in fiber behind the right wheel well.

I've installed the PSE and the phone cradle, but still need to get the phone (I'm picking one up tomorrow) and the antenna switch. I really don't have a problem paying someone to tie the phone into the fiber loop, but am struggling with the challenge of figuring out how to do it myself. (Sounds like a "mixed-message, I know, but I would really like to figure out how to do it myself before paying someone else).

As far as I can tell, if I do do it myself means, I will probably have to pull the stock radio and the CD player installed in the glove-compartment out to tie the phone fiber in. I have read that to pull the radio in the C240, you need to remove the air vents over the radio, remove the wood trim, and then unscrew four bolts that hold the radio in. I guess that you may have done this at some point in your life, can you give me any insight regarding how to do it myself?

Thanks,

Dick

Richard

Dick

I dont quite understand the fibre setup you are saying.

Are you saying that when you shine light in one side of the VCS connector (lets say the red one), it comes out the other side of the connector (the white one) ? (i.e the fibres are looped somewhere), or does light come out of the phone connector ?
And what happens when you shine light in the phone D2B connector ?

Remember that wherever those fibres end up, they could be looped together with the D2B connector part for connecting a red fibre end to a white fibre end ..

Ive never taken a C class apart before, but if you look in threads about installing the Audio=10 CD, theres instructions referred to in one of those (with nice pictures)

Richard

R

rgleason

I am not a great graphic artist as the picture I am attaching will show, but this is what the fibers in the front trunk compartment actually do. They are the ones I sent you a picture of my holding in my hand. The VR D2B in and out ports are connected together with that black connector so they aren't connected to anything but the D2B connector and themselves. The radio-out fiber connects to the phone in cable -- which wasn't connected to anything but the bare connector -- and the phone-out connector runs along the top of the trunk compartment to somewhere at the front of the car.

Dick

Richard

Where is the VR D2B fibres connected together (presumably by the black thing in the picture) ? And is there really only
one cable in the D2B plug for the phone
What are those black things on the D2B fibre in your picture ?

R

rgleason

"Where is the VR D2B fibres connected together (presumably by the black thing in the picture)?" Correct, that balck thing is a connector with a metal clip on it that I assume allows you to disconnect the two fibers. The VR fibers are connected to each other. "And is there really only one cable in the D2B plug for the phone." No there is a phone out cable from the phone D2B connector that runs up to the front of the car. I just don't know exactly where! "What are those black things on the D2B fibre in your picture ?" They connect two pieces of fiber together.

rgleason

Here's an updated picture.

Dick

rgleason

Richard, not the greatest pictures, but here are the pictures of the phone cradle, part # 203820 06 51.

Dick

Richard

Hi

Yes, thats the right part. And you do need the clip that it plugs
into.

I imagine the fibre from the VR D2B connector is looped somewhere near where the phone is, so that you can insert it
into the fibre chain there.

I have no idea where the end of the fibre pair for the phone is though - as you and i both guess, its somewhere near the head unit !

I guess you are raring to install this and work out where the fibre
ends up. You may need to borrow the "splice" connector (to loop two fibres together) from wherever the VR fibres are looped. Its a black thing about 2cm long, but 0.75cm by 0.75cm, you clip up the metal bits to release the fibre connectors in it.

R

Cheers
R

Londonboy

Richard, whats the (Resistive/DC filter A203 820 55 15) for..

Does it stop DC noise on the phone audio... I have a MegaComm instalation and I do get a little bit of Alternator noise over phone conversation audio.. do you think this part could have been left out of my system.

Also my AM reception has lost about 30% of its gain..

Any ideas... and any info on TMC as well

Richard

The answer is that I dont know ! I wasnt 100% convinced by the megacomm install, I would have put the kit below the drivers seat (where it is meant to be), and found the correct console ..
So, it wouldnt surprise me if they didnt use the DC filter and/or the E-Net compensator ..

No info on TMC yet. And I dont know about the AM either ,..

Richard

Ok, my dealer got it slightly wrong ...

You dont need the A203 823 00 60 part

But you do need A203 820 05 51

(They are both the same sort of thing, just different shapes)
(and the latter should be easily available)

Needless to say, MB have just released a load of new different (prettier/smaller) phone holders for MY2003 (that other clip is possibly for MY2003, I presume MB got it wrong in the parts catalog), but working out the part numbers for those is a nightmare ! (It will be more obvious in 2-3 months though)

rgleason

Richard, you posted messages on the following dates that when taken in total, cause me to ask some questions. In the first two emails you imply that the clip is necessary and you give reasons why this is so. In the final citation, you write that the clip isn't needed.

09-30-2002 Email: "OK, sounds like that clip is what it [the phone bracket] clips into. And its important, because it turns on/off the car's speakers. (Ie when you pick up the handset for privacy the speakers switch off)."

10-01-2002 Email: "Yes, thats the right part. And you do need the clip that it plugs into."

10-01-2002 Email: "Ok, my dealer got it slightly wrong ... You dont need the A203 823 00 60 part But you do need A203 820 05 51"

Richard, let me be more specific about why I'm confused. Pardon the repetition of the comments you made in the quoted emails above. You wrote on 9/30 that the clip is "...important, because it turns on/off the car's speakers." In your first follow-up email today, you wrote that "...you do need the clip that it [the phone cradle] plugs into. In your final email of this subject, you wrote that, "You dont (sic) need the A203 823 00 60 part." Without that part it would seem that telephone sound through the speakers would not happen, e.g., when plugged into the clip, a switch is depressed that causes the phone sound to be relayed through the radio; not plugged in (which it wouldn't be if it is not present), the switch isn't depressed and the sound would not come through the radio speakers. How does that capability work without the clip?

Also, without that clip, the phone cradle will sit unsecured in the center compartment. Is that important?
Thanks,

Dick

Richard

Sorry to confuse you :-) I went to my dealer to check this for you
earlier today ..

The 203 823 00 60 part is the clip for a different phone holder.
The 203 820 05 51 is the clip for the phone holder you have.

So, the reason for my "you dont need the 00 60" part, is that you have the 06 51 phone holder, which clips into clip 203 820 05 51.

My dealer cant work out what holder clips into the 203 823 00 60 clip, apart from its a newer type that he hasnt seen before, that only just got a picture in the electronic parts catalog (EPC). New EPCs arrive every month. It seems that they keep changing the phone holders, and in fact there are 4 different varities listed and various different clips !

He guesses that when we checked last time the information was incomplete and either he picked the wrong clip, or MB had accidentally removed the info for the right clip (05 51) and replaced it with the wrong one (00 60) in the EPC (quite likely)

I know the 05 51 part is the correct thing for your holder to clip in, its the same as what is in my wife's ML, and the same as I installed into my CLK

Cheers
Richard

Londonboy

Richard, Megacomm didn't fit it under the seat because the DVD multi-changer was going to be fitted there..

The console is the right one.. I know you thought there should have been another type, but the other grey is dark grey, Orion Grey was the new additional 2002 colour (now three colours, two before) prior to 2002...

So are you saying the fliter is for DC noise, maybe I have a faulty filter fitted

Richard

That makes sense about the seat - My wife's (factory fit) console doesnt have a speaker in it but her car is black, come to think of it her last ML was a darker grey.

I dont know exactly what the filter does ... But I imagine you could just drop the left hand footwell cover and look for it. Its a little inline thing, in line with the aerial cable. One of the connectors is covered by grey foam, the other isnt. The E-Net compensator is a box about the size of a cigarette packet, cast aluminium, with 2 aerial connectors and a power connector in the middle. Its probably plugged into that.

R

rgleason

Richard, I was misunderstanding you entirely. What it seemed like you were saying to me in the first two emails was, "Yes you need the clip." Then it seemed like you said in the last email I cited, that the clip is not necessary. The point I missed was that you were actually saying, "Yes you need a clip but it is not the 203 823 00 60, it is the 203 820 05 51." Sorry I misunderstood you. I hope this helps you understand why I did.

Thanks,

Dick