phranksmbz

Ok so i was looking at both of these and needed some opinions on which would be a better choice for me & others.

Alpine:

http://www.alpine-usa.com/US-en/prod...model=IVA-W205

VS.

Pioneer:

http://pioneerelectronics.com/pna/v3...264980,00.html

I know most users here are using pioneer but i dont know why? to me the alpine looks much cleaner but thats just from the outer shell.

I will be using this for:

watching dvds/cd/mp3s
connecting ipod
bluetooth
steering wheel control

So:

Navigation
rear camera
internet
Satellite radio

are not my priority ......

Im not a technical guy, so im just asking for some input thanks.

phranksmbz

in the avic-z1 does it allow you to change light color to match interior like the d3?

Sreilly

the Alpine can be bypassed for viseo in motion, is much easier to use and is much better Quaity (IMO)

ldangeli

205 offers what they call "Dock and Roll" a new portable navigation unit that slides directly into the Alpine, can be ejected for use in other vehicles. Alpine quality is much better, and you can't find it at wallmart.

phranksmbz

can the color be changed on the lights?

ldangeli

Yes, red or blue..

phranksmbz

i noticed that a lot of ppl here on the forums chose pioneer? i want amber color lights to match the interior lights but i guess you cant get the best of both worlds eh?

ldangeli

The majority of benz owners here like pioneer because its cheap. Plain and simple.

xanax

i have the alpine iva-w205 and it slips in the alpine can with minimum mod...looks like factory. With the new bluebird nav unit for it next week, you also have full bluetooth capability and full speed ipod , mp3, dvd audio and anything else you may want
I did not have the bose system but, it would not have mattered. I am happy and can do anything i like with it.
Oh, btw, alpine 4 channel 70 watt amp and polk momo mmc 6500.
I have many vcd's from asia and can play them all without having do any ripping. It is a great unit and i did check the pioneers and kenwood. I would be very confused trying to navigate music or.... on the confusing screen of the kenwood

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phranksmbz

Hey thanks for your input .... im still debating
the only thing holding me back is the button light colors, i want amber to match my car.

jgsx

The Avic Z1/Z2 buttons have a blue backlight.

Both the Z1 and Z2 can have the in motion protection bypassed. A Z1 can be upgraded to a Z2 with a $250 DVD.

phranksmbz

didnt know that .... thanks

C24owner

You can change the backlight on the buttons to any color you want on the D3.

You can also use the pioneer via the steering wheel with an adapter, not sure if you can with alpine.

SSM AMG

Do not get the pioneer D3 it is trash. Just installed one in my friend's bmw and you can't have full navi without the disc in the headunit so if you input an address and take the disc out you can't edit unless you input the disc again.

phranksmbz

Again.....

I dont even get navigation in my state (alaska) so right now its not important to me but yes i want an "all around" headunit. Does anyone know of any other(s) that are similar or that are comming soon(by the end of the year)?

xanax

you probaly are going to have a very hard time finding someone to sell you aftermarket. After a year or more searching, i bought the alpine iva-w205 and had it installed. Under 100 dollars for install (one shop quoted 700 to install another, 300 plus).They had never installed in an ml320. Found an alpine dealer that had and he did the install for less than a 100 and 900 for the iva-w205.
Installed the alpine can in the existing mb stock can.
Instant clean sound.
Then, mail ordered the polk momo mmc6500 speakers for the front, along with an alpine MRP-F450 amp, instal labor 120 dollars for speaker and amp(installed under the cover board for the rear seat.
After a week breakin period for front speakers, purchased and had installed polk rear door speakers, purchase and installation-130 dollars.They are the only coax speakers that will fit, almost a drop in.
Listening styles of music on this system: classical, lite rap, rock, traditional country, mixed chinese, thai, vcd with, karaoke, and the ability to play and view any format of disks along with an ipod in the glove box.

My brother had the same car with the way overrated boise system. I would have changed that system also if i had it.

Hooked the parrot bluetooth back up to the alpine.
When the new blackbird navigation is released, it will slip into the head unit

The reason for writing, this is the problems encountered when trying to upgrade the stereo system and the ability to play any audio format and vcd's. Audio car shops seem like they do not want to, or don't know how to do it. Perhaps because of the ability or the installers these days.
Most online suppliers, state the equipment desired does not fit the vehicle

it was not expensive to do this and is great to hear: Hillary Hahn and violen play Bach, Xuefei yang do 4 seasons on her guitar, bob marley, bob dylan, merle haggard and many more while driving. Only thing missing is the cognac but, that will be waiting at home
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ldangeli

As is true with just about any dvd headunit.

ldangeli

You bought such a nice head unit, why go with Polk car? Mail ordered to. For 269 dollars a pair, there is a lot better out there. I guess sound is all relavant, but polk?

Also, any good Alpine shop will install the IVA-W205 for 1K installed, which is what you paid.

The ML is one of the easiest vehicles to install an after market radio in, no matter what anyone tells you. There is a big giant hole behind the factory radio which you could fit a small child in. Literally takes about 30 seconds to get the dash off and factory radio out.

ldangeli

Choose wisely, Pioneer is crap, we all know that. If you can buy it at WallMart, stay away from it. Eclipse? Just buy a toyota, it already comes with an Eclipse radio.

There is a reason Alpine makes navigation and head units for MB, Rover, Jag, and 50% of the rest of the car market. Or I should say there is a reason car manufacturers buy all of their factory screes, navi's and headunits from Alpine, cause its that good.

Funny thing is, the Navi in MB, is made by Alpine.

xanax

I did mention it was not easy to find a shop to install the head unit and very few dealers with the alpine w205 when it was purchased many weeks ago. No attempt was made to highlite the cost-just stated cost compared to several estimates.
Could have used mbquart or focal speakers but, they did not work for my ears for clean sound on a wide variety of music choices. my son is taking out his 600 dollar mbquart and going back to polks.
For the money,along with ease of installation and no need for heavy bass- the momos 6500 work great. The cost of the polk momo 6500 are 300 plus in the stores. Although, have been thinking of a small bazooka woofer.
Have a slight hearing loss due to a recoiless rifle so the brighter sound of the momo 6500's are good and leaves money for an alpine PXA-H701-DSP if desired.
Truthfully, i travel frequently and spend much time overseas and not in the car.
You are correct about the large cave behind the dash. The stock mb speakers in the front were 15 watts and the rears only 5 1/4.

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....... Audaces fortunat juvat timidos que repellit .......
" Fortune favors the bold and scorns the timid "

ldangeli

Sound is all relative, understood. Enjoy the setup!

cmcreller

Can I install my own Alpine IVA-W205 unit? My Factory unit is on the fritz, and it is too expensive to fix or replace. Will it run the factory cd-changer? Any special tools or plugs needed? I am writing because it sounds like you have done it. Many people have told me no due to fiber optics, etc..., but I would assume (like you) it could easily be done (Especially consideringthe factory unit is an Alpine) Please advise - Thanks

Ted Baldwin

...........I wanted to find out if your steering wheel controls work with the Alpine unit. If yes, did you need a third party adapter? if yes, which one?

......Further your post mentioned that you connected the Alpine CAN to the stock MB CAN. Does this mean that no third part adapter is neccessary for steering wheel control? Thanks

Ted

Marshall_K

Have you looked at other HUs?
I'm in the same boat as you and am looking at the Kenwood DNX7100
6.95 Wide Double-DIN Navigation/USB/DVD/Monitor Receiver

I put a Kenwood KDC-X791 in my 350Z and it works great. I don't have a cd changer or iPod but I can use any USB data device as a sound source.

Kenwood is using USB drives as cd changer replacements. I purchased a 4gp usb drive from Circuit City and loaded it with music. It never has to leave the car and never needs to be recharged.

good luck

ELBMAN

I have a Z2 (XM NavTraffic, IPod, Bluetooth, CD Changer in Glovebox) that replaced the Factory US Command HK system and have been quite happy with it.....it took me a couple of days and a complete gutting of the car to install as I removed all of the factory audio equipment and placed the aftermarket in stock locations; but the sound is so much better.


had a Z1 prior and it's made it's way to the lady's vehicle, and she doesn't call for directions anymore.