Well Xenons are like what at least a good 10+ years old now with the first primitive systems in like the GMC Envoy, and Mach VIII. They have gone a very long way

first you had the reflector, then the projector was added which found was a very very good way to disperse light better and more evenly.

Right away autoleveling systems were integrated to control the beam. with 3 times the light a reliable method to ensure that the light was correctly aimed was quickly brought in...autoleveling was added

Then they a solenoid was placed in conjunction with the cutoff shield and came out with bixenon, one of the best additions yet. Allowed xenon light to go from the legal cutoff restrictions to a full effective bright high beam

then they added an axis and directional mount came out with dynamic xenons, to better light an upcoming corner

not to mention the various systems that power all of this D2 (original) D1 (ignitor built into bulb) D4 (mercury free, slightly more light, and more efficient)

I do know that the color of Xenon lighting actually doesnt do so well or as well as halogen in rainy weather, combine rain with dark asphalt pavement and your 3x output disappears. A good halogen setup will outperform, the color performs better. thats also why alot of cars used to use Yellow fogs, as the yellow light would be more visable in these conditions.

I think there are alot of people out there that arent getting the benefits of xenon lighting, while yea the color to some is more attractive, the greater the color the less light (not referring to the color spectrum at cutoff) but the overall K-temperature of the light the xenon salt is emitting. I detail cars and get alot of cars with xenon's systems that are 8+ years old, these cars while the lights still fire up. Have heavily colorshifted bulbs, I bet halogen systems out there are putting out more light. A new set of bulbs would do WONDERS to this, and easily put out 2x more light.

anyway With all that being said...Anyone still think Halogens are better?

 

See http://www.danielsternlighting.com/t...dvantages.html

 

I won't buy it if it doesn't have HID lights.

 

I won't if it does.

 

I can tell you a very simple fact. My '08 E with BiXenon is safer to drive. I can see more, I can see further, and I can see more accurately. I am constantly amazed at how much improvement there is and just how much more "buffer zone" I have around me as a result.

I'm in the Pgh, PA area and we sure get our fair share of rain. My Xenons perform better in the rain as well.

Just my own experience.

 

Many MB models have xenons standard, I wonder if someone does not buy this model at all because of this.

In my opinion the advantage of xenons is even more the beam width even if the beam coverage to the front is also useful. This may not be important everywhere and you may not even notice this difference if you don't compare two cars or see some car tests that show this clearly.

The article was funny, sort of assuming that the extra light from xenons would be put to the near front, which of course isn't good. But why would a good manufacturer do this for xenons (and not for halogens). The light pattern of course needs to be designed properly, as it is done on MBs, both in the case of xenons as well as halogens, within the the power each has.

 

No.

 

when i am in the Range Rover, the HID's are awesome, I can see a hell of a lot more, I wouldn't ever buy a new vehicle w/o em'

 

I've had HID's in my past 4 vehicles, whether it be OEM or aftermarket. I refuse to own one without them.

 

If you think halogens are better than hids, your

 

We've got some bitter people in this thread

 

If you think HID is better than QI, you have a much thinner wallet than I do!

And you can't see any better.

 

You can see better with HID's but in terms of servicing and reliablity I would go with halogen. If you went off in the boonies a lot or lived far from a dealership then it might be more prudent to go with halogens.