Bluetooth Help for a New Benz Owner
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Bluetooth Help for a New Benz Owner
Hello everyone,
I've read through several threads regarding the Bluetooth interface -- and I'm hoping someone can give me a bit of assistance. The more I read (on this site and others), the more confused I become.
I just bought a 2006 C230 that came pre-wired for the phone system. I received a list of necessary parts to make my car Bluetooth-ready. This is what I was told to get:
Part Q-6-82-0907 (Not sure what this is)
Part Q-6-82-0965 (Not sure what this is)
Part 6-7-87-5878 (I think this is the puck)
I received an astronomical quote to have everything completed through my local dealer, which is why I'm trying to go about obtaining everything on my own before I head for installation. But the more I read, it seems there are some disagreements as to which parts I truly need.
I don't want to buy the wrong stuff.
If anyone could help me, I'd greatly appreciate it. Does this list look correct? I've been told that my Motorola V3m (Verizon) will work just fine.
Thanks so much for your help and expertise.
I've read through several threads regarding the Bluetooth interface -- and I'm hoping someone can give me a bit of assistance. The more I read (on this site and others), the more confused I become.
I just bought a 2006 C230 that came pre-wired for the phone system. I received a list of necessary parts to make my car Bluetooth-ready. This is what I was told to get:
Part Q-6-82-0907 (Not sure what this is)
Part Q-6-82-0965 (Not sure what this is)
Part 6-7-87-5878 (I think this is the puck)
I received an astronomical quote to have everything completed through my local dealer, which is why I'm trying to go about obtaining everything on my own before I head for installation. But the more I read, it seems there are some disagreements as to which parts I truly need.
I don't want to buy the wrong stuff.
If anyone could help me, I'd greatly appreciate it. Does this list look correct? I've been told that my Motorola V3m (Verizon) will work just fine.
Thanks so much for your help and expertise.
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try,
q-6-82-0967
203-820-13-11
6-7-87-5878
211-540-64-33
the only disagreement could be the optical wire which is only a few bucks anyone else telling you that you need anything that's not listed doesn't know what they are talking about. Pre wire really means nothing any car is pre wired really.
q-6-82-0967
203-820-13-11
6-7-87-5878
211-540-64-33
the only disagreement could be the optical wire which is only a few bucks anyone else telling you that you need anything that's not listed doesn't know what they are talking about. Pre wire really means nothing any car is pre wired really.
Last edited by JonMBZ; Jun 14, 2009 at 03:55 AM.
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Are you sure? In Europe a car that is not prewired does not have the cell phone antenna, the microphone and really is lacking the wiring harness connecting the microphone, the phone cradle at the centre armrest etc. I guess you mean "prewiring" does not mean the car is ready for a phone or a phone cradle, unlike owners often expect.
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As far as Euro cars I don't know how their systems are setup, but in the us you can put a phone in about any the prewiring really doesn't mean much here and it's misleading to the average customer. I guess an important question would have been to find out where you live?
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Pre wire really means nothing any car is pre wired really.
If you need a solution under a $1k, both Navtv and Mobridge has solutions that will emulate the factory completely, but with better phone selectivity. the best part is they could care less if it is pre-wired or not
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Well with the GL the rear seat is an option the pre wire is standard so that's why I mean it doesn't mean much since any car has it, but it doesn't really have the core components to use the phone most if not all 08's come with a full HF communication system as well. The MB phone systems have had price drops which bring it a little over $800 which would list under the mobridge system if you are just looking for a phone kit. The advantage to mobridge is the ipod integration if you are looking for that.
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Well with the GL the rear seat is an option the pre wire is standard so that's why I mean it doesn't mean much since any car has it, but it doesn't really have the core components to use the phone most if not all 08's come with a full HF communication system as well. The MB phone systems have had price drops which bring it a little over $800 which would list under the mobridge system if you are just looking for a phone kit. The advantage to mobridge is the ipod integration if you are looking for that.
The OP talked about a 2006 C-class.
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I'll leave the US cars covered by others but my past W211 was an example of a Euro car (from 2003). All my other cars have had the full kit.
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I agree prewire does not mean that much. You buy parts based on your cars current configuration. Remember, cars are built on an assembly line and for the most part they all have the same stuff in them. There is the likleyhood that a cable or bracket is not installed based on your equipment options. Any MB dealer will be able to tell you what must be purchased. If you go to an aftermarket solution (which I recomend) they will also be able to tell you what you need. You may have to shop around for a good installer.
What I have found is that the factory components work ok and are as expensive if not more than the after market options. Having said that I just purchased a mObridge with Bluetooth and iPod support. They asked about my car make, model, year and equipment. Based on that they provided me with everything I need.
I will do the install myself this week. If you are not in a hurry I will let you know how it goes. I bellieve in the end this will be better than the factory solution and cost will not be that much different.
Hope my 2 cents helps.
I agree prewire does not mean that much. You buy parts based on your cars current configuration. Remember, cars are built on an assembly line and for the most part they all have the same stuff in them. There is the likleyhood that a cable or bracket is not installed based on your equipment options. Any MB dealer will be able to tell you what must be purchased. If you go to an aftermarket solution (which I recomend) they will also be able to tell you what you need. You may have to shop around for a good installer.
What I have found is that the factory components work ok and are as expensive if not more than the after market options. Having said that I just purchased a mObridge with Bluetooth and iPod support. They asked about my car make, model, year and equipment. Based on that they provided me with everything I need.
I will do the install myself this week. If you are not in a hurry I will let you know how it goes. I bellieve in the end this will be better than the factory solution and cost will not be that much different.
Hope my 2 cents helps.
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This is simply baloney.
Prewiring is an option in just about all Mercedes models until just very recently.
The "definition" of prewiring is there is a connector in the console to which you can simply connect a phone cradle or bluetooth puck and then be in business. No question some invisible wires may exist in all models, but if the cradle/puck connection isn't there in the console the car is NOT prewired.
Prewiring is an option in just about all Mercedes models until just very recently.
The "definition" of prewiring is there is a connector in the console to which you can simply connect a phone cradle or bluetooth puck and then be in business. No question some invisible wires may exist in all models, but if the cradle/puck connection isn't there in the console the car is NOT prewired.
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Ikcris technically your correct, although, MB calls it Bluetooth ready and not prewire. As it was explained to me, all MB (at least in the E-Class) 2007 or later were built "Blue Tooth Ready" meaning the cradle and the bluetooth module was installed in the car at the factory (the puck was optional). Does not make alot of sense to me, why not fully install it or not? In any case I'm are getting off the point. If your car is not prewired (or Bluetooth ready) the cost is very high becuase you have to install the cradle in the armrest connect to a module that has to be installed in the trunk, run fiber to the module in the trunk etc. Its very possible to do, however, you have take apart the car to run all the cables correctly and MB mechanics love to be slow and mitculus, especialy with thier hourly rate. I suggest buying a mObridge (BT and Audio) you will spend less and its much easier install. All it needs is electricy and a head unit. They give you everything you need.
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This is simply baloney.
Prewiring is an option in just about all Mercedes models until just very recently.
The "definition" of prewiring is there is a connector in the console to which you can simply connect a phone cradle or bluetooth puck and then be in business. No question some invisible wires may exist in all models, but if the cradle/puck connection isn't there in the console the car is NOT prewired.
Prewiring is an option in just about all Mercedes models until just very recently.
The "definition" of prewiring is there is a connector in the console to which you can simply connect a phone cradle or bluetooth puck and then be in business. No question some invisible wires may exist in all models, but if the cradle/puck connection isn't there in the console the car is NOT prewired.
I picked up my 2006 c280 4matic last week and I read the forums on this topic and the above was pretty much what I left with -- connector in the console, get a 5878 and I'm pretty much good to go.
Today mine arrived (off of ebay) -- I plugged it into the console and pushed the MB button for 2-3 seconds (with car running)... and no flashing lights for pairing the phone.
Held the MB button for 5 seconds... no lights.
Held the MB button for 30 seconds... pushed it repeatedly in frustration, hoping for the pairing lights... puck sits and looks blindly back at me.
Did I miss something? Did I misread the various threads on the subject? Or did I get taken on ebay?
Thanks,
dave
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I asked about my car from the dealer. They told me I have no phone and have to buy the cradle, blue tooth puck and whatever else. So if you dont have a phone in the car to start you will have to get that from what I gather. I was quoted at 3K for everything. Make sure you guys know what you are needing.
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Another noob jumping in...
I picked up my 2006 c280 4matic last week and I read the forums on this topic and the above was pretty much what I left with -- connector in the console, get a 5878 and I'm pretty much good to go.
Today mine arrived (off of ebay) -- I plugged it into the console and pushed the MB button for 2-3 seconds (with car running)... and no flashing lights for pairing the phone.
Held the MB button for 5 seconds... no lights.
Held the MB button for 30 seconds... pushed it repeatedly in frustration, hoping for the pairing lights... puck sits and looks blindly back at me.
Did I miss something? Did I misread the various threads on the subject? Or did I get taken on ebay?
Thanks,
dave
I picked up my 2006 c280 4matic last week and I read the forums on this topic and the above was pretty much what I left with -- connector in the console, get a 5878 and I'm pretty much good to go.
Today mine arrived (off of ebay) -- I plugged it into the console and pushed the MB button for 2-3 seconds (with car running)... and no flashing lights for pairing the phone.
Held the MB button for 5 seconds... no lights.
Held the MB button for 30 seconds... pushed it repeatedly in frustration, hoping for the pairing lights... puck sits and looks blindly back at me.
Did I miss something? Did I misread the various threads on the subject? Or did I get taken on ebay?
Thanks,
dave
Can you try the adapter on another car, or another adpater in your car?
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Since your car already had the UHI/MHI connector, it should have worked by just putting the BT adapter in place. Now if it does not have any lights, perhaps the part is broken or your phone connector is not powered up (like a bad fuse or even someone having taken parts off the car).
Can you try the adapter on another car, or another adpater in your car?
Can you try the adapter on another car, or another adpater in your car?
Unfortunately, I don't have another car or puck to try...
I recently read on another forum that if the car never had a phone installed, that I probably need to get "version coded" by the dealer so that my car knows a phone is there... (I hope it's just a fuse)
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I'll check the fuses, but if there's parts missing on the car, I'm not sure I know what to look for (I know alot of this stuff is somewhere in the trunk).
Unfortunately, I don't have another car or puck to try...
I recently read on another forum that if the car never had a phone installed, that I probably need to get "version coded" by the dealer so that my car knows a phone is there... (I hope it's just a fuse)
dave
Unfortunately, I don't have another car or puck to try...
I recently read on another forum that if the car never had a phone installed, that I probably need to get "version coded" by the dealer so that my car knows a phone is there... (I hope it's just a fuse)
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The instrument panel tells me "no phone" -- I did not have the phone kit retrofit, the connector was already there when I purchased the car last week...
I have no idea what the previous owner may or may not have installed, I was working on the basis that the connector meant everything was installed and good to go...
dave
I have no idea what the previous owner may or may not have installed, I was working on the basis that the connector meant everything was installed and good to go...
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The instrument panel tells me "no phone" -- I did not have the phone kit retrofit, the connector was already there when I purchased the car last week...
I have no idea what the previous owner may or may not have installed, I was working on the basis that the connector meant everything was installed and good to go...
dave
I have no idea what the previous owner may or may not have installed, I was working on the basis that the connector meant everything was installed and good to go...
dave
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There must be something wrong with the car, basic diagnosis would show the problem.
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I don't think so, if you were quoted 3k, that means the whole phone kit. dasman66 already had the phone connector which should mean he has the phone kit already and the phone cradle or the BT adapter should have been enough to go, as he assumed.
There must be something wrong with the car, basic diagnosis would show the problem.
There must be something wrong with the car, basic diagnosis would show the problem.
I thought he was the OP
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