Back Up - Navigation CD! How?
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Back Up - Navigation CD! How?
Hello,
Is is possible to back up/create an image of a Mercedes Navigation CD. I have two young kids and they are always messing around with the Navigation system. On time they pulled the CD out of the nav unit and damaged it, where I had to replace it. It is getting very expensive ~170 a pop. If I had a backup I could use that.
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Is is possible to back up/create an image of a Mercedes Navigation CD. I have two young kids and they are always messing around with the Navigation system. On time they pulled the CD out of the nav unit and damaged it, where I had to replace it. It is getting very expensive ~170 a pop. If I had a backup I could use that.
Any thoughts?
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Originally Posted by Dema
I do not believe that it's possible to copy protect. I should borrow a disk from my dealer to check possibility of back up.
I guess I am just missing the point of your post... could you help me out and elaborate?
thanks,
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Originally Posted by Silver_Lana
Must copy protection done with software can be simply bypassed by using MacOS 9/X or Linux. Not really sure about this particular one but thats how it has always been.
Oh yeah, and I think the latest disks are SafeDisk protected... I misspoke saying they were SecuROM. Or it could be something else. Regardless, it depends which hardware you have, because some hardware cannot duplicate the copy protection no matter what.
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i just did a back up using nero 6 and it works just fine. nero has an option to copy dvd. just pop in the ome dvd and a blank and let the software do the rest. BTW my car is only two weeks old and i don't know if the disk is copy protected or not. must not because i'm using the backup right now. 
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Originally Posted by mbfan67
i just did a back up using nero 6 and it works just fine. nero has an option to copy dvd. just pop in the ome dvd and a blank and let the software do the rest. BTW my car is only two weeks old and i don't know if the disk is copy protected or not. must not because i'm using the backup right now.
Could be wrong though.
And "copy protected" doesn't mean "cannot copy", it means "protected from copying" which just makes it more difficult to copy. Like "wheel locks" don't make it impossible to steal your wheels.
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Originally Posted by Dema
It isn't hacker size, so I do not want to make it so. Learn how to user network resources, and you will find an answer how to make a copy.
Oh well, it's really not that important, we know it is copy protected, and it was already outlined how to copy it.
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guys and gals,
I was finally able to make a backup of my 1/04 Nav CD by Navtech.
1) Make an image file using Alcohol 120%
2) Select the Safedisc 2 option and burn image to HD.
3) Make copy of image via Alcohol 120% or Nero.
4) I have tried it in 2000 S430 and it seems to work.
I was finally able to make a backup of my 1/04 Nav CD by Navtech.
1) Make an image file using Alcohol 120%
2) Select the Safedisc 2 option and burn image to HD.
3) Make copy of image via Alcohol 120% or Nero.
4) I have tried it in 2000 S430 and it seems to work.
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Hi Powerlplyer, I tried as your method , and was unable to make an image file . After 96% the process froze, and I had to abort.
Are you sure it is the safedisc 2 option ?
Whilst the Navigation disc came with a July 04 vehicle, when one reads the Info file on the disc it is dated 19.08.03. Is your disc earlier or later than this version ?
Are you sure it is the safedisc 2 option ?
Whilst the Navigation disc came with a July 04 vehicle, when one reads the Info file on the disc it is dated 19.08.03. Is your disc earlier or later than this version ?
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You are funny. Do not mess up intentention to be copy protected and be copy protected. You can consider DVD copy protected because you need to use decrypter, or just CD, because you can't copy it using your VCR. Whatever, have fun.
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Originally Posted by powerplyer
guys and gals,
I was finally able to make a backup of my 1/04 Nav CD by Navtech.
1) Make an image file using Alcohol 120%
2) Select the Safedisc 2 option and burn image to HD.
3) Make copy of image via Alcohol 120% or Nero.
4) I have tried it in 2000 S430 and it seems to work.
I was finally able to make a backup of my 1/04 Nav CD by Navtech.
1) Make an image file using Alcohol 120%
2) Select the Safedisc 2 option and burn image to HD.
3) Make copy of image via Alcohol 120% or Nero.
4) I have tried it in 2000 S430 and it seems to work.
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back-up nav cd
just a little story about a local used car operation that sells alot of highlines with navigation, they also do big internet business, about a year and a half ago benzes started appearing in our service department with faulty nav systems, turns out that these people used nav discs that had been reproduced, benz sent out a tech bulletin warning of the hazards of using copied/reproduced discs, seems that if not made, or recorded the same way as originals, disc has a tendency to spin faster or slower than it should, my understanding was that if they are faster, they heat up the unit, and caused unecessary wear, so just be carefull when burning/duplicating your disc, why not just buy an extra off e-bay, or get friendly with your salesman and ask them to obtain one for you and give them 20-30 bucks
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Back Up Nav CD
I was told today that the Teleatlas Disc Uses Dual Layer Technology therefore it needs a dual layer burner / reader with special dual layer CD's.
Has anyone tried or used this equipment to backup their CD ?
Has anyone tried or used this equipment to backup their CD ?
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Originally Posted by PJMusgrave
I was told today that the Teleatlas Disc Uses Dual Layer Technology therefore it needs a dual layer burner / reader with special dual layer CD's.
Has anyone tried or used this equipment to backup their CD ?
Has anyone tried or used this equipment to backup their CD ?
And about copying. Anything is copyable. Probably the best way to do what you need is to create a disk image. That way everything will be copied including hidden files, etc. If a drive (i.e. your car's nav, your computer) can read the info from the disk, then it can be copied. Something as simple as Toast can probably accomplish what you need.
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What u need to do is:
Download trail version of clonecd from this link
http://www.elby.ch/products/clone_cd/
Create an image of the cd with the option "copy protected game"
Burn the image with the option "copy protected game"
This works -this is how i backup my cd's
Regards kim
Download trail version of clonecd from this link
http://www.elby.ch/products/clone_cd/
Create an image of the cd with the option "copy protected game"
Burn the image with the option "copy protected game"
This works -this is how i backup my cd's
Regards kim
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Thank you for the advice, I have tried Clone CD, Nero 6 and Alcohol 120% everything has failed so far. I think its impossible to backup. I don't think anyone can do it ?
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Originally Posted by tntmcj
just a little story about a local used car operation that sells alot of highlines with navigation, they also do big internet business, about a year and a half ago benzes started appearing in our service department with faulty nav systems, turns out that these people used nav discs that had been reproduced, benz sent out a tech bulletin warning of the hazards of using copied/reproduced discs, seems that if not made, or recorded the same way as originals, disc has a tendency to spin faster or slower than it should, my understanding was that if they are faster, they heat up the unit, and caused unecessary wear, so just be carefull when burning/duplicating your disc, why not just buy an extra off e-bay, or get friendly with your salesman and ask them to obtain one for you and give them 20-30 bucks
