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Old Apr 21, 2012 | 07:35 PM
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Old Jun 20, 2012 | 01:23 AM
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Small update, I have been very busy with the coupe and have very little time to update this thread

My top hats for my rear rotors finally came in and it is a prefect fit. This is the only way of running W212 345mm rotor on a W/C204. Brembo does not offer a Monoblock rear caliper for a W/C204 either, so this also will have to be done

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With the rear kit installed, I can now measure for the proper wheel/caliper clearance and wheel offsets

Check out the clearance (test fitting the custom barreled LM's off the StanceLab W212)



I am test fitting a lot of different wheel combinations to get the proper offsets. I will post these spec when I get all my measurements done

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Old Jun 20, 2012 | 02:16 AM
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Very interested to see what wheels set up you will adopt with our crappy high offset! My biggest dilemma atm is trying to find a wheel that will give me any decent conavity with a +50!!! Ahh!!!!!
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Old Jun 20, 2012 | 12:54 PM
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Very interested to see what wheels set up you will adopt with our crappy high offset! My biggest dilemma atm is trying to find a wheel that will give me any decent conavity with a +50!!! Ahh!!!!!
The answer is forged wheels
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Old Jun 20, 2012 | 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Blinks
Very interested to see what wheels set up you will adopt with our crappy high offset! My biggest dilemma atm is trying to find a wheel that will give me any decent conavity with a +50!!! Ahh!!!!!
Why such a high offset?
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Old Jun 21, 2012 | 02:27 AM
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I've heard a lot about your coupe since i am currently having memory fab work on some wheels for my w204, would be interested in seeing this coupe in person since we are both in the bay !!!
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Old Jun 21, 2012 | 03:21 AM
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The answer is forged wheels
Please explain, do you mean monoblock ? 2 or 3 piece ? or any other type of custom made wheel ?

With the offsets mentioned it's still difficult to achieve a deep concave.

I'm looking into the possibilities of having as small as possible a rim width to achieve a better concavity effect and finish whilst retaining full functionality and not having to modify fenders etc. from wheels that end up 'sticking out' too much, it's a trend I'm noticing with the U.S crowd even adopting spacers to push the wheels outward, but it's not something all people want, this also causes more debris residue to be thrown up along the sides of the vehicle which is another drawback of wheels being pushed out.

Most if not all alternative rims I'm seeing for our cars are utilising large rim widths eg. 9.5 or 10" for the rears compounding the problem of the large ET number required and trying to achieve a pronounced concavity effect, if the width were reduced to 8.5" max like OEM or even 8" it would produce a greater concave result/effect.

8 or 8.5" rim widths would also still support up to 265 wide tyres.

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Why such a high offset?
That's what the OEM rims on our C Class' are
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Old Jun 21, 2012 | 03:55 AM
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Old Jun 21, 2012 | 10:54 PM
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Please explain, do you mean monoblock ? 2 or 3 piece ? or any other type of custom made wheel ?

With the offsets mentioned it's still difficult to achieve a deep concave.

I'm looking into the possibilities of having as small as possible a rim width to achieve a better concavity effect and finish whilst retaining full functionality and not having to modify fenders etc. from wheels that end up 'sticking out' too much, it's a trend I'm noticing with the U.S crowd even adopting spacers to push the wheels outward, but it's not something all people want, this also causes more debris residue to be thrown up along the sides of the vehicle which is another drawback of wheels being pushed out.

Most if not all alternative rims I'm seeing for our cars are utilising large rim widths eg. 9.5 or 10" for the rears compounding the problem of the large ET number required and trying to achieve a pronounced concavity effect, if the width were reduced to 8.5" max like OEM or even 8" it would produce a greater concave result/effect.

8 or 8.5" rim widths would also still support up to 265 wide tyres.



That's what the OEM rims on our C Class' are
Ok, I am trying to understand what you are saying but to the best of my knowledge, the thinner the wheel the less concave you can go. There is just not enough width in the barrel to allow for extra "concaveness". I think you might have to go wider or have some wheels custom made. Forgestar makes wheels to order, might want to give them a call. I have tried two wheel combinations to feel out the offsets

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Old Jun 21, 2012 | 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by BMFW
I've heard a lot about your coupe since i am currently having memory fab work on some wheels for my w204, would be interested in seeing this coupe in person since we are both in the bay !!!
Cool, MemoryFab is good people, glad you are working with them. We car will be in Hayward this weekend, you can welcome to swing by and check it out. Air suspension is going in. Pm me for more information
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Old Jun 21, 2012 | 11:04 PM
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Please excuse the height, it's stock

HRE 540R

Front 19X8.5 +35 - 235/35/19
Rear 19X9.5 +38 - 265/30/19

[Stance Lab] C350 coupe Build-img_0839.jpg

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Old Jun 21, 2012 | 11:08 PM
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Stock S63 wheels

Front 20X8.5 +43
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Old Jun 21, 2012 | 11:14 PM
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Some pictures of a coupe

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Old Jun 22, 2012 | 02:51 AM
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Originally Posted by ricecooker713
Ok, I am trying to understand what you are saying but to the best of my knowledge, the thinner the wheel the less concave you can go. There is just not enough width in the barrel to allow for extra "concaveness". I think you might have to go wider or have some wheels custom made. Forgestar makes wheels to order, might want to give them a call. I have tried two wheel combinations to feel out the offsets
Your right, I have made an error after thinking it through properly apologies for the confusion

If ET or offset number is the same between 2 different wheel widths then the amount of rim distance or width your left with on the outside half of the rim is the same regardless of rim width.

I will eventually consult a wheel manufacturer for a custom set of 19's when the time comes
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Old Jun 22, 2012 | 04:22 AM
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I need to buy me a set of those S63 wheels! Looks like they would be pretty on point?
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Old Jun 23, 2012 | 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted by ricecooker713
Please excuse the height, it's stock

HRE 540R

Front 19X8.5 +35 - 235/35/19
Rear 19X9.5 +38 - 265/30/19



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Front fitment (wheel was slightly turned to the right)

Very nice but with those aggressive offset the only way your gonna be able to ride is at that height! the moment you lower the car you will be scrubbing left right and centre. How much camber are you planning on dialing in and are you rolling the fenders? I would like to hear your feedback as those are similar offsets if not more aggressive of what i want to do! Goodluck I hope you find a set up that works as Im struggling to find anyhting atm. Hopefully you can lead the way for me
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Old Jun 23, 2012 | 09:50 AM
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~ still waiting to see a set of wheels that actually fit the car/application without extending past the wheel well lips.
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Old Jun 23, 2012 | 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by AV1
Your right, I have made an error after thinking it through properly apologies for the confusion

If ET or offset number is the same between 2 different wheel widths then the amount of rim distance or width your left with on the outside half of the rim is the same regardless of rim width.

I will eventually consult a wheel manufacturer for a custom set of 19's when the time comes
To my understanding, if two wheels are the same, with same offsets and the widths are different, 8.5 and the other 9.5, you would have an extra half an inch on the outside and inside
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Old Jun 23, 2012 | 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by 190Benz
I need to buy me a set of those S63 wheels! Looks like they would be pretty on point?
The wheels are great, but you lower it, you would have to run stretched tires, fender work and add camber. Not something simple. If it is the stock height, I think it would be ok
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Old Jun 23, 2012 | 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Blinks
Very nice but with those aggressive offset the only way your gonna be able to ride is at that height! the moment you lower the car you will be scrubbing left right and centre. How much camber are you planning on dialing in and are you rolling the fenders? I would like to hear your feedback as those are similar offsets if not more aggressive of what i want to do! Goodluck I hope you find a set up that works as Im struggling to find anyhting atm. Hopefully you can lead the way for me
Fender work and cambers kits will be used. Camber should be similar out E-class, so where around 3-4 degrees.

By the way, the S63 wheels are only for streets/rolling around. The show wheels are way more aggressive then these
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Originally Posted by andrew c coupe
~ still waiting to see a set of wheels that actually fit the car/application without extending past the wheel well lips.
Sorry man, not going to see a set of wheels offset'ed to fit stock height here. But if you come back in month or two, all wheels are going to be sitting flush
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Originally Posted by ricecooker713
To my understanding, if two wheels are the same, with same offsets and the widths are different, 8.5 and the other 9.5, you would have an extra half an inch on the outside and inside
Thanks for that ricecooker, I've also checked out some good articles on the topic

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Old Jun 25, 2012 | 12:22 AM
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Got the AirRex digital air suspension in... fits nicely without any modifications
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Old Jun 25, 2012 | 12:25 AM
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It can go lower about 2 more inches
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Looking forward to seeing it lowered with your choice of wheels! Great project so far!
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