C250 Coupe Tune available from Burger-Motorsports?

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Old Jan 30, 2015 | 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by mklimis
1. The piggy-back tune can be undone just as easily as it was installed

2. Your warranty is not affected in any way. Makes no difference if you own, lease, borrow, steal, mooch or your grandma makes the payments and let's you take it out on Sundays.

3. With that being said there is no reason to take out the tune for any dealership visit.

4. The only exception being is if a warranty claim arises in which the tune itself has caused damage to a component of your vehicle or its electrical system. With that being said the dealership has to PROVE that it was your tune/ecu flash that actually caused the failure. Not a easy task.

I have a e92 335i that with numerous bolt on mods and various piggy-back tunes (SSTT to JB) has undergone 2 fuel pump replacements. All serviced with the mods on the car.

Also my e82 135is that is "lightly" modded has never raised any questions at the dealership.

Same goes for the c204 C250.
Thank you so much for the info! I'm going to buy the tune ASAP!
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Old Feb 18, 2015 | 07:10 PM
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I have the same car as you (c250 2013 cgi sport) and the JB+ worked very well for like 2 months, after that the car goes into "limp mode" 2 or 3 times a ride (2 hours ride) and it's very (VERY) unpleasant if you are in a highway and you can't stop. I changed the setting from 60% to 50% and then to 40% and still goes into limp mode, also the CEL was turned on (which is very annoying) every time until i erased the code with a cheap scanner.

I recommend the Jb+ becasuse is a great experience, but maybe it'll stop working properly after few months of use .

Have you guys know if i can use the JB+ at lower setting and still feel awesome?

thanks in advance
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Old Feb 18, 2015 | 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by lemusclegeek
Hello
I have the same car as you (c250 2013 cgi sport) and the JB+ worked very well for like 2 months, after that the car goes into "limp mode" 2 or 3 times a ride (2 hours ride) and it's very (VERY) unpleasant if you are in a highway and you can't stop. I changed the setting from 60% to 50% and then to 40% and still goes into limp mode, also the CEL was turned on (which is very annoying) every time until i erased the code with a cheap scanner.

I recommend the Jb+ becasuse is a great experience, but maybe it'll stop working properly after few months of use .

Have you guys know if i can use the JB+ at lower setting and still feel awesome?

thanks in advance
Yes many cars need to run a lower setting, as the over boost code point seems to vary between DME versions and vehicles. The MIN most setting is still a nice bump over the factory tuning. I'd start there.
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Old Feb 18, 2015 | 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by lemusclegeek
Hello
I have the same car as you (c250 2013 cgi sport) and the JB+ worked very well for like 2 months, after that the car goes into "limp mode" 2 or 3 times a ride (2 hours ride) and it's very (VERY) unpleasant if you are in a highway and you can't stop. I changed the setting from 60% to 50% and then to 40% and still goes into limp mode, also the CEL was turned on (which is very annoying) every time until i erased the code with a cheap scanner.

I recommend the Jb+ becasuse is a great experience, but maybe it'll stop working properly after few months of use .

Have you guys know if i can use the JB+ at lower setting and still feel awesome?

thanks in advance
Lower the setting on the tune like Terry said and disconnect the negative on your battery for about 10 minutes.
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Old Feb 18, 2015 | 09:44 PM
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Terry, Kevin.

Thanks a lot for your time. I 'll do what you recommend and will give you feedback as soon as possible.

Again, thanks a lot!
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Old Feb 23, 2015 | 11:58 AM
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Hello.

I followed the Kevin's suggestion and it worked like a charm. No more limp mode and no more CEL on. Back to awesomeness!

Thanks a lot guys.
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Old Feb 25, 2015 | 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by lemusclegeek
Hello.

I followed the Kevin's suggestion and it worked like a charm. No more limp mode and no more CEL on. Back to awesomeness!

Thanks a lot guys.
Eventually your ecu will learn your driving habits and limp mode might happen again. If so lower settings again and disconnect battery. Repeat until stable.
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Old Sep 16, 2015 | 12:34 AM
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About to pull the trigger on this mod. Anyone with a 2014 running it? Do they respond the same as the 2013? Also with the over boost code is that triggered by the knock sensor or just the boost pressure sensor? Questioning whether the engine is in any real danger from knock or the ECU is just very conservative to how much boost is allowed. Anyone hear any detonation prior to the over boost limp mode? Sounds like tiny marbles in a can. Does the C250 have enough injector/fuel to run E85? Surely you would need a tune for that.
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Old Feb 15, 2017 | 12:45 PM
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I also have a 2014 c250 and wondering if anyone has a 2014 and has installed. The lag doesnt seem to be horrible on my car. A noticable difference in acceleration in the cold though. Wondering if the JB tune will help or hurt. I don't want to experience CEL at all. So ym question would be does the tune provide a noticeable difference in the 0%-50% range?
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Old Feb 15, 2017 | 04:07 PM
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I cant speak for the burger unit , but the one I have from Dinan works really well. I do know they have it for the 2014 as well.
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Old Feb 15, 2017 | 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by subzero05
I cant speak for the burger unit , but the one I have from Dinan works really well. I do know they have it for the 2014 as well.

Have you ever thrown over boost condiitons? Looks like this dinan one is also a piggy back. Any issues? Does car feel faster? Has anyone done dyno runs to confirm performance?
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Old Feb 15, 2017 | 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Star4life
Have you ever thrown over boost condiitons? Looks like this dinan one is also a piggy back. Any issues? Does car feel faster? Has anyone done dyno runs to confirm performance?

it is a piggyback and like 2 min install time. Nope never thrown an overboost and it is definitely more spirited. There are several of us on here that have the Dinan unit and very happy with it . There are some dyno figures floating around also
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Old Feb 16, 2017 | 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by subzero05
it is a piggyback and like 2 min install time. Nope never thrown an overboost and it is definitely more spirited. There are several of us on here that have the Dinan unit and very happy with it . There are some dyno figures floating around also
I assume it will work for sedan as well?

Any chance any of you have run the burger as well? Whats the consensus burger vs dinan?

i havent heard anything bad about dinan but i havent seen much about them either. Sometimes quiet is good with mods because if things go wrong we are more likely to hear about it.

I like the ability to change on the fly via bluetooth, for the same money as burger thats almost the swinger for me.
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Old Feb 16, 2017 | 09:38 AM
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The C250 coupe - mine is Iridium Silver - certainly does not accelerate like my 350/350 'Vette (or the Supra Turbo from 20 years ago).

But the good looks, the fuel economy (36 MPG) on a recent 1800 round trip to AZ) and the reliability sure make that 7.1 seconds to 60 more palatable.......................

Some dude paid close to 50 large for this gem. Going the CPO route: was close to half-price.

I'll be thinking about the tune (but not holding my breath)...............


best to all,



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Old Feb 16, 2017 | 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Star4life
I assume it will work for sedan as well?

Any chance any of you have run the burger as well? Whats the consensus burger vs dinan?

i havent heard anything bad about dinan but i havent seen much about them either. Sometimes quiet is good with mods because if things go wrong we are more likely to hear about it.

I like the ability to change on the fly via bluetooth, for the same money as burger thats almost the swinger for me.

yes the Dinan will work on the sedan. And the Bluetooth deal is a nnice bonus. the live boost monitoring deal on the app is a bit funky but for the price, the fact its Dinan and the features its pretty good!
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Old Feb 16, 2017 | 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by subzero05
yes the Dinan will work on the sedan. And the Bluetooth deal is a nnice bonus. the live boost monitoring deal on the app is a bit funky but for the price, the fact its Dinan and the features its pretty good!

yea. anyone know why the dinan has less plugs than the burger? Is this good or bad? To adjust target boost is more or less plugs better?
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Old Feb 16, 2017 | 10:37 PM
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Where are the Dinan pages for this C250 tune - in fact, where are any of their MB pages? I only knew about their new W205 tunes (no idea they had a W204 C250 one), but I can't find anything on their website MB related. Even when I follow links from W205 discussions I'm getting 404s.
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Old Feb 16, 2017 | 10:53 PM
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I currently have a 2012 C250 coupe with both the Intake and Chip from Burger tuning and can say it is amazing as it does make a difference on your performance. Install for both is a piece of cake and the detailed PDF instructions work perfectly.

Would definitely recommend this to anyone driving the new 250 as it does make it lot more. Also want to say that I have sent several ones to South America and no issues on my friends cars.
okay, so I am both an Mbworld and mercedes first timer, what is this tune you speak of and how do I get it
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Old Feb 17, 2017 | 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Fendmarson
Where are the Dinan pages for this C250 tune - in fact, where are any of their MB pages? I only knew about their new W205 tunes (no idea they had a W204 C250 one), but I can't find anything on their website MB related. Even when I follow links from W205 discussions I'm getting 404s.

this is link for tune

https://www.dinancars.com/product/d4...turbo-engines/


not much info on it and not much talk about it. I think I am going to give it a try though.
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Old Feb 17, 2017 | 09:49 PM
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Thanks for the link! This is legitimately the first new C250 tuning product I've seen in so long, and to think it's coming from a reputable company...very interesting. Could potentially be the best power option for a C250.
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Old Feb 18, 2017 | 12:36 PM
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It does work well on our cars . Several members on this forum have the Dinan unit and are happy with it . Super easy and does what it's described to do
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Old Feb 28, 2017 | 09:37 AM
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anyone with dinan tune have any input?" Anyone tried burger or dinan tune? thoughts on each?>
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Old Jun 14, 2017 | 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Star4life
anyone with dinan tune have any input?" Anyone tried burger or dinan tune? thoughts on each?>
^ I'm also curious, especially since the Burger JB+ connects to 2 points (TMAP & Wastegate Solenoid sensor), while the Dinan Sport only connects to TMAP. CMIIW.
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Old Jun 14, 2017 | 10:06 AM
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I Have the Dinan iunit and like it for the price. its 2 min to install and does what is advertised. Not sure why burger goes to another sensor, or if it is really even needed?.
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Old Jun 14, 2017 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by subzero05
I Have the Dinan iunit and like it for the price. its 2 min to install and does what is advertised. Not sure why burger goes to another sensor, or if it is really even needed?.
Well as Terry@BMS said earlier on this thread "Yes our first design installed the same way. MAP+TMAP. This setup resulted in overall less torque than the wastegate+TMAP approach we settled on." but that was 4 years ago and the Dinan Sport wasn't even exist back then. Now that the Dinan connects to TMAP only (once again please correct me if I'm wrong) and finally I'm contemplating to get a tuning box after I got a custom cat-back valvetronic exhaust with dual exit, I started re-reading all these threads and began to research on the differences/effectiveness of each box.

TBH, as you also said, I kinda like the simplicity, box design, and the app that comes with Dinan, but at the moment I'm not really convinced if the Dinan works just as effective or even better than the JB+, provided that it only connects to TMAP.

subzero05, just curious have you ever done before-after dyno on the Dinan, or in case you know if there's a dyno result ever done by someone else somewhere (other than the one provided by Dinan)?

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