tmrdc5

Hey guys i was browsing the Brabus website and found a possible tune for the c250. Does anyone know if it is even for the c250 or the cost? Pic included below.

Amin Skaf

A forum sponsor, world-motorsports, also sells an ECU upgrade (a real one - not a piggy back) and it ranges between 2.9k-3.5k USD....depending on the stage variant. A tad steep if you ask me. I was looking forward to $400-600 stage 1 tunes. Apparently those wont be available for a while, if ever.

Jon@BMS

Based on our dyno testing there is very little to be had on the platform via tuning. Whether you tune via a flash or piggyback if the turbo can't hold much more boost than stock then there is only so much you can do...

AV1

Not sure about the petrol or CGI tunes there, but Brabus do some fairly decent tunes for the diesels or CDI variants, they're also quite expensive but are warranted by MB dealers in some markets

t-wd.net

Terry, how much boost does the stock turbo run?
Also, what size is the turbo? Can it be compared to a Garrett T25 or T28?

Jon@BMS

Boost on our S1 tune is around 20psi down low tapering to 11-12psi at redline. The C250 turbo has a difficult time supporting 200rw on the 1.8L so I'd say it's likely smaller than a T25. But we have not removed or physically inspected it.

t-wd.net

So I suppose in the future we will see things like:

Upgraded turbo (eg T28 size for a 1.8L)
Upgraded intercooler
Fuel Injectors, pump, etc.
Exhaust
Intake

And hope for ~200+rwkw?

I just read your Dynojet tests....noted 139.4rwkw in stock form (interesting, considering factory claims it makes 150kw at the engine)

Then maybe a gearbox tune for the 7G Tronic...(not sure if it's the same gearbox as the C63....if it is, you'd think it would handle the power).

AV1

Just answering on the 7 G Trans it's difinitely not the same as the unit used in the C63.

However AFAIK the 'normal' 7 G tronic auto used on most cooking models is capable of or rated at 740nm continuous running, it's made to suit all the diesel models across the ranges which are torque monsters and it then easily copes with the petrol models

190Benz

My car will go to Eisenmann on monday for a new exhaust. Next month I will replae my injectors with the ones from the A45 AMG, bigger intercooler, modified stock turbo, oilcooler, an oil catchcan and custom mapping.

AV1

Have to ask - "A45 AMG" is that model released yet

Jon@BMS

With a larger turbo a lot more power is possible. The rest of the platform seems fine, at least as far as we can tell at this point. The problem is the cars are so new few will want to hack them up. So may take a year or two before the market gets rolling.

190Benz

The model isn't released yet but the parts are all fabricated. I know the owner of the shop where my car will be upgraded personally and he went to school with the importer for AMG in the Netherlands. He asked him for a favor for me.

I will keep you guys up to date on the works. My car is going to Eisenmann on Monday. I'll make a thread here about the progress on my car.

AV1

Awesome, definitely look forward to your updates

I'm actually keen on acquiring the new AMG A45 in a couple of years when it becomes available here in Australia to complement my C Class Coupe

190Benz

Yeah the A45 amg is badass!! It will be fast and rediculously great handling i guess.

The car was delivered at the Eisenmann research and development department yesterday. Was a 4.5 hour drive with my C204 and another 4.5 hour drive back in my W203 (my father owns it now). It made me realize how much i love my coupe. It's just on an other level then the W203... Can't wait until i get it back!

To talk about the engine upgrades. I am expecting a call from the guys who is going to tune my engine. I'm not rushing him as my car is gone for +-3 weeks. Stupid Belgian technical inspection wants homologation and installation certificates for everything!!! Otherwise it would be made quicker.

AV1

Sounds very interesting - looking forward to the results

Speaking again about the upcoming A45 stock out of the box it'll be as quick or quicker than a C63 certainly in wet conditions it'll be alot quicker and it'll have far superior handling than a C63, tuned to an even much higher level which can easily be done to this car and exploiting the AWD, it'll be an absolute ripper probably better than both the 135i M hatch and RS3 - can't wait to try one out when it's released

skat004

CKS Performance sells one from Carlsson:

http://www.cksperformance.com/index....ducts_id=21027

At about $1600 USD this is still cheaper than the Brabus which when I enquired would cost about $2400 USD. Carlsson is just as reputable and well regarded as Brabus and both offer very similar performance gains.

Nothing comes close to the price of the Burger Motorsports chip, other than RaceChip.

http://www.racechip.de/en/chiptuning...ency-150kw.php

190Benz

I couldn't agree more. AMG will be getting every hp out of the internals of that 2 liter. But the turbo, intercooler, ecu, exhaust,... could probably be upgraded.

The good news is that, with like the C/E55, C63, amg's, there will be engine upgrades from known tuners, because people with an amg also like to tune it. A "plain" 180/250cgi is aimed at "regular" people. Not tuning minded. So the amg engine in the A45 will probably bring us some usefull parts for our engines.

Jon@BMS

Would love to see some dynojet runs of these various C250 tunes to see how they stack up against the easy to install and remove C250 JB+.