C32 brakes on a W202...
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I believe they are the stock C32 AMG brakes. You can get them at the dealer for around $800 or so. Basically you need rotors, calipers, and pads. The calipers say Brembo stamped on the inside. Both caliper and rotor is from Brembo. Pretty nice upgrade. Mostly people with W203 do them. This guy was the first W202 I heard of. When I find out more info Ill post up.
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Things to note:
1) rotors are not made by Brembo
2) rotors only come in a left application (i.e. you need to put a left rotor on the right side)
3) the calipers are not intended to work on this car, so the sequential ordering of the pistons is incorrect (the leading piston will be larger). Because of this, braking will not operate at peak efficiency, and can also lead to two other problems, tapered pad wear (which will wear the pads much faster than they should) and excessive squeaking (due to the tapered wear)
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1) rotors are not made by Brembo
2) rotors only come in a left application (i.e. you need to put a left rotor on the right side)
3) the calipers are not intended to work on this car, so the sequential ordering of the pistons is incorrect (the leading piston will be larger). Because of this, braking will not operate at peak efficiency, and can also lead to two other problems, tapered pad wear (which will wear the pads much faster than they should) and excessive squeaking (due to the tapered wear)
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Originally posted by DougandhisC280
Scorchie: How do you know so much about everything? I'm not saying your a knowitall or anything but it's getting a little rediculous. Can't you be wrong about something?
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hey scorch....could u elaborate on the piston distribution? if u manage to keep the orientation of the piston proper...and the only change is the caliper position from (driver's side) 3 o'clock to 9 o'clock...woud it still matter?
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Are you insinuating that I do this?
Are you insinuating that I do this?
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Originally posted by steve s
hey scorch....could u elaborate on the piston distribution? if u manage to keep the orientation of the piston proper...and the only change is the caliper position from (driver's side) 3 o'clock to 9 o'clock...woud it still matter?
hey scorch....could u elaborate on the piston distribution? if u manage to keep the orientation of the piston proper...and the only change is the caliper position from (driver's side) 3 o'clock to 9 o'clock...woud it still matter?
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Originally posted by steve s
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i guess swapping corners left/right would be out of the question then too?
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i guess swapping corners left/right would be out of the question then too?
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I will make it easy without all the BS. The pistons are upside down. Small in front and Big in back.. The brakes went on just like stock brakes. The only exception is the allen screw hole is in the wrong spot which a machine shop fixed for $40.00. The rotors are both lefts. The cost is $650.00 for rotors, calipers and pads..
The rotor went up in size to 13.2" I removed the stock C 32 pads and put Porterfields on them. Had the AMG tech at my shop and a shop adviser run car today in the wet. They both agreed this car now has more than ample brakes. I will try out at track next month. The abs worked great and this was on bald front tires. The install was cake. So what if the pistons are upside down.. the car brakes better than the C 36 brakes. As far as pad wear.. if I was that concerend I would have bought a KIA. I would do it again in a heartbeat. Well worth the $$. The SS lines really helped as well. Now if I can fix the back brakes....Scorshie is correct in what he says but the car stopps better than before.
The rotor went up in size to 13.2" I removed the stock C 32 pads and put Porterfields on them. Had the AMG tech at my shop and a shop adviser run car today in the wet. They both agreed this car now has more than ample brakes. I will try out at track next month. The abs worked great and this was on bald front tires. The install was cake. So what if the pistons are upside down.. the car brakes better than the C 36 brakes. As far as pad wear.. if I was that concerend I would have bought a KIA. I would do it again in a heartbeat. Well worth the $$. The SS lines really helped as well. Now if I can fix the back brakes....Scorshie is correct in what he says but the car stopps better than before.
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dear dan,
where did you buy them from for $650.....did you buy them from the dealer....it just seems a bit cheap for both calipers, rotors and pads....please, please let me know.....
where did you buy them from for $650.....did you buy them from the dealer....it just seems a bit cheap for both calipers, rotors and pads....please, please let me know.....
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Originally posted by Dan The AMG Man
The only exception is the allen screw hole is in the wrong spot which a machine shop fixed for $40.00.
The only exception is the allen screw hole is in the wrong spot which a machine shop fixed for $40.00.
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I know how good these brakes are,and
I'm glad to see that this upgrade is a bolt-on.It's nice to be wrong sometimes;I had wondered about possible ABS problems.
As far as caliper mounting,the brakes don't care squat as to which side is up,so swapping from side to side is not a problem.
Did your bleeders wind up on top of the calipers,and were there any wheel-clearance problems?.
As far as caliper mounting,the brakes don't care squat as to which side is up,so swapping from side to side is not a problem.
Did your bleeders wind up on top of the calipers,and were there any wheel-clearance problems?.
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Autowerks Express sold them to me.. The bleed screw is still up top and can be bled without removal of wheel. The rotors were not rebalanced as I didn't have the time or cared to. Have 1000 miles on them and they work great.. will test at track soon, that will be the real test. So far better than C 36 units.. Wheel clearance. I am running a stock 5 spoke 17" AMG wheel. No rub and no problem.. Overall the brakes have been trouble free and trust me the ABS works great, much better than C 36.. The ABS should not change as this is not based in caliper but brake system as a whole. All the calipers want is fluid and a place to bite. The SS lines helped as well. If you have a 202 the front lines will need a 18" ( stock is 17" and you can use that as well ) and the backs need a 13".. this is based on a C 36 1996 measurment. Stock lines will work as the screw in the bottom part is the same and will screw right in C 32 calipers. If I didn't have rusted bolt the time to do it was really nothing. Time to mount new C 32 stuff providing you have all the tools is about 30 to 45 minutes a side..