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Old 08-15-2018, 06:30 PM
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there is no egr in my motor

So, i was watching a video on youtube and find out the EGR valve in my car should be located on the driver side of the engine right where the engine meets the firewall, so i went to my car and took a look under the hood and there is no valve. is it posible that a 1996 c220 came out without an EGR valve?
here is my vin
WDB2020225F348987

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Originally Posted by magodeoz73
So, i was watching a video on youtube and find out the EGR valve in my car should be located on the driver side of the engine right where the engine meets the firewall, so i went to my car and took a look under the hood and there is no valve. is it posible that a 1996 c220 came out without an EGR valve?
here is my vin
WDB2020225F348987

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Old 08-16-2018, 08:31 AM
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If i'm not mistaken; this (EGR) valve comes with W202 "U.S." version only, isn't..?!!?

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If i'm not mistaken; this (EGR) valve comes with W202 "U.S." version only, isn't..?!!?

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Well, my car was sold in a mexican dealership but the tag on the door where the vin is located says MADE IN GERMANY.
not only does not have an egr, i doest have the metal tube that goes from the erg to the intake manifold as well
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thats the video i was talking about, i saw it and then went to my car and surprise! no egr valve and no metal tube that goes from the erg to the intake manifold.
is it posible i came out factory like this?
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Originally Posted by magodeoz73
Well, my car was sold in a mexican dealership but the tag on the door where the vin is located says MADE IN GERMANY.
not only does not have an egr, i doest have the metal tube that goes from the erg to the intake manifold as well
I have 00 "W202 C200", and i don't have this EGR either, and the hole is blocked,,

i don't think your C220 got it as well.

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Originally Posted by cm60k
I have 00 "W202 C200", and i don't have this EGR either, and the hole is blocked,,

i don't think your C220 got it as well.

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Is great to hear that, i was wondering if the previous owner messed with car, but now that you tell me this, i have to focus then in what could be causing the rpms to drop when i get to a stop.
is there also a chance that my car came out with no crankcase valve either? i can't find it

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What's crankcase valve..?,

many things could drop the RPM range..!,,

prefer to diagnose the car, codes will help to narrow the issue..!?!

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Originally Posted by cm60k
What's crankcase valve..?,

many things could drop the RPM range..!,,

prefer to diagnose the car, codes will help to narrow the issue..!?!

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Positive crankcase valve, or PCV, in our cars its quite different than a ford or chevy ones. i just can't find it, its a black plastic part, here is the photo.
i can't diagnose the car as it has obd1 port and theres no mechanic in my hometown that has the conector except for one, but although he has the obd1 conector, his scanner doesn't have input data for the 1996 w202 22, so, no diagnose is posible.
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I think you mean oil separator..!?!, your "96 C220" shouldn't have it..!,,

are you sure you got it..?!?!

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Originally Posted by cm60k
I think you mean oil separator..!?!, your "96 C220" shouldn't have it..!,,

are you sure you got it..?!?!

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You are right, it is an oil separator, thanks for telling me that my car doesn't have one, i was looking all over the engine bay looking for it.
i also noticed my car doesn't have a fuel regulator. it should be placed at the beginning of the fuel rail. it should look like this



mercedes fuel regulator. mine doesn't have it, why?
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No, you should have fuel regulator..!!,,

the photo you posted is fuel regulator my friend..

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Originally Posted by cm60k
No, you should have fuel regulator..!!,,

the photo you posted is fuel regulator my friend..

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i know it is a fuel regulator! what i am saying is that my car doesn't have it.
so these are the facts
1.- no egr valve ( yours doesn't have )
2.- no crankcase or oil separator A.K.A. pcv valve ( you say a 96 should not have it )
3 .- no fuel regulator ( you say it should have it )
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That's kinda weird..!,

are you sure you don't have fuel regulator..!?!?,,

regarding to your VIN #, you have fuel regulator..!?!

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Originally Posted by cm60k
That's kinda weird..!,

are you sure you don't have fuel regulator..!?!?,,

regarding to your VIN #, you have fuel regulator..!?!

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let me go and take a pic of my car and post it to you, give me a couple of minutes
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Originally Posted by cm60k
That's kinda weird..!,

are you sure you don't have fuel regulator..!?!?,,

regarding to your VIN #, you have fuel regulator..!?!

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You were right, it has a fuel regulator, i think.

well i am having a hard time finding out why my rpms drop to 300-500 when i get to a stop. i have wires and sparks good and newer maf sensor as well. i have cleaned the iat valve and the throttle body too, but the car stills the same. i thought maybe the egr valve was the problem but it doesn't have it, maybe the pcv or oil separator, but it doesn't have it either.
also, is it normal our cars are too slow? i mean, mine is a manual but it is too slow, i know it is a 2.2 and it doesn't have a turbo but, still feels slow.
is it this one?
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This is fuel regulator,

i think you have air leak somewhere, or bad PCV hose..!,,

did you check any of these..??

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Originally Posted by cm60k
This is fuel regulator,

i think you have air leak somewhere, or bad PCV hose..!,,

did you check any of these..??

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Please, tell me where in the car is the PCV so i can find the hose you are talking about.
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It's the small hose in your photo..!

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