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W203/CL203 Suspension (Shocks/Springs/Sway Bars) Discussion/Upgrade Thread

Old Apr 27, 2007 | 12:01 PM
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want to lower your C240/320/280/350 4-matic, but don't want to cut the springs?? now you can. Bilstein now offers the PSS9 coilover system for the 4-matic. It should be around the same price as the normal PSS9. The part number is F4-GM5-8860-H0 .

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Are you sure?? The part numbers are the same for the rwd version.
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Old Apr 27, 2007 | 01:00 PM
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Hahaa I've been in CDR mode forever... Just got TEIN SS yesterday from CarLAB. I also cut short the shifter too. Now the car shifts and drives stiff. The front maybe sinking too low so I may get it raised a bit later.
Nice mods man! I love my TEIN c/o's.
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Old Apr 27, 2007 | 03:21 PM
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Are you sure?? The part numbers are the same for the rwd version.
If it's the same, then maybe not. lol it's on the bilstein website when you search for upgrades for 240 or 320 4-matic.
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Old Apr 27, 2007 | 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by FrankW
If it's the same, then maybe not. lol it's on the bilstein website when you search for upgrades for 240 or 320 4-matic.
I saw it on their site and the part numbers are the same. I asked Luke at tirerack about the Bilstein shocks and he said that they will work, since the mounting points are the same. I am going to call Bilstein and find out for sure. If they do work I will order them.
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Old Apr 27, 2007 | 06:57 PM
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just got off the phone with Bilstein, the pss9 will NOT work with the 4matics.
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Old Apr 27, 2007 | 07:00 PM
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I Am Getting Pss9!!!!

Omfg Can't Wait!!!
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Old Apr 27, 2007 | 07:03 PM
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I want the pss9 sooo bad, damn 4 matics.
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Old Apr 27, 2007 | 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by C24owner
I want the pss9 sooo bad, damn 4 matics.
I haven't really paid attention to what the front suspension on the 4-matic actually looks like. if you can post up a pic of the front without the wheel.

all i can say is sucks to have a 4-matic

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Old Apr 27, 2007 | 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by FrankW
I haven't really paid attention to what the front suspension on the 4-matic actually looks like. if you can post up a pic of the front without the wheel.

all i can say is sucks to have a 4-matic
Crazy, cuz AWD Audi's have plenty of options for lowering.
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Old Apr 27, 2007 | 07:52 PM
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Crazy, cuz AWD Audi's have plenty of options for lowering.
same goes for the BMW xi. lol
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Old Apr 27, 2007 | 08:00 PM
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I haven't really paid attention to what the front suspension on the 4-matic actually looks like. if you can post up a pic of the front without the wheel.

all i can say is sucks to have a 4-matic
yea, tell me about it. I cant lower it, cant run staggered, its slow as *****. The list goes on.

This is the only pic I have on my comp, I know it sucks.

I'll try to take a better pic tomorrow.
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Old May 1, 2007 | 01:04 PM
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Sorry to re-post but I think I posted in the middle of a conversation and got over-looked.

1) How do the OEM Sport springs compare to the H&R or Eibach springs in terms of drop and comfort?

2) Will the OEM Sport model springs fit my 2003 Avantgarde and does the Sport model use different dampers compared to my car?

Thanks.
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Old May 1, 2007 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Ryaw
Sorry to re-post but I think I posted in the middle of a conversation and got over-looked.

1) How do the OEM Sport springs compare to the H&R or Eibach springs in terms of drop and comfort?

2) Will the OEM Sport model springs fit my 2003 Avantgarde and does the Sport model use different dampers compared to my car?

Thanks.
1) Front is maybe 1/4 lower w/ H&R or Eibach from OEM 2005+ sport springs. Anytime a car is dropped, there is more compression to the springs, therefore in most cases the ride will be slightly stiffer when changing to aftermarket (but shouldn't be that much of a difference - that judment is all based on relevance - i.e. to me, rolling on the harshest setting with my coilovers is comfortable, whereas others would find it way too harsh.)


2) Yes. yes.
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Old May 10, 2007 | 10:01 PM
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will a 2005 sedan sport suspension fit and lower a 2003 coupe currently on a non-sport stock suspension?

also, has anyone ever cut half a coil off of stock springs? does that totally screw up the ride comfort?

i just want the look and the comfort... performance is secondary...
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Old May 11, 2007 | 06:24 AM
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will a 2005 sedan sport suspension fit and lower a 2003 coupe currently on a non-sport stock suspension?

also, has anyone ever cut half a coil off of stock springs? does that totally screw up the ride comfort?

i just want the look and the comfort... performance is secondary...
it'll fit and its possible to cut a coil.
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Old May 11, 2007 | 11:39 AM
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will a 2005 sedan sport suspension fit and lower a 2003 coupe currently on a non-sport stock suspension?

also, has anyone ever cut half a coil off of stock springs? does that totally screw up the ride comfort?

i just want the look and the comfort... performance is secondary...
I wouldn't recommend cutting OEM springs. It doesn't have the same response as cutting aftermarket springs. Remember, OEM springs (even if they are "sport") are not made to handle the shorter spring compression, so your ride will end up bouncie.
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Old May 19, 2007 | 10:03 PM
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Thanks for all your help guys .....here you go
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Old May 19, 2007 | 10:28 PM
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Thanks for all your help guys .....here you go
looks nice! is your name Jay, Mark or Paul?
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Old May 19, 2007 | 11:09 PM
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looks nice! is your name Jay, Mark or Paul?
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Old May 22, 2007 | 11:08 PM
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is it necessary to change it if your putting H&R springs on, or can we leave. I saw on a thread that if your not going back to stock then you dont have to change it.

thanks
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Old May 22, 2007 | 11:19 PM
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are you talking about the front spring cap or the rear shims? you don't have to change either actually. you could change the rears if you feel like you want to raise/drop the rear, but the front is fine
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Old May 22, 2007 | 11:39 PM
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the Top Hat doesn't have to be change unless its BAD but i changed mines
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Old May 25, 2007 | 01:07 AM
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Guys,

I have Tein Basic COs for my C230 sedan.I just noticed my left rear is actually sitting lower than my right rear (I am not in the car).It's lower about 1/2 finger.I checked underneath and guess what , my left rear actually still has 2 turns left and my right rear is already at the LOWEST setting!!!

Can someone help me here?!What seems to be problem...

TIA
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Old May 25, 2007 | 01:24 AM
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hi im a newbie
i just want to lower my car.. but dont have the money right now to purchase some C/O's.. should i just buy some springs for now? does springs make any difference?
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Old May 25, 2007 | 02:22 AM
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Guys,

I have Tein Basic COs for my C230 sedan.I just noticed my left rear is actually sitting lower than my right rear (I am not in the car).It's lower about 1/2 finger.I checked underneath and guess what , my left rear actually still has 2 turns left and my right rear is already at the LOWEST setting!!!

Can someone help me here?!What seems to be problem...

TIA
It sounds like you already know the problem. You have to adjust both sides to the equal height.
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