W203/CL203 Suspension (Shocks/Springs/Sway Bars) Discussion/Upgrade Thread
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1996 MB E320 & 2010 Nissan Elgrand
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When I had Eibach in my car, my rear was a lot lower than my front 
Surely different countries use different spring pad sizes, different roads etc? Really doesnt matter, best thing is to check whats in your car physically.
So anyway I will put up a few pic's of the car. I have been given the task of making a bog standard C180 Desirable, and ready for sale. So far
Very standard :
Now fitted with the Eibach Pro kit and 18" wheels
And you can see the rear problem as she sits like a tractor :
Front :
The car is now having the kit fitted, will post new pics of rear set up once I fit the 5mm spring pads, or shims as the dealer calls them
So anyway I will put up a few pic's of the car. I have been given the task of making a bog standard C180 Desirable, and ready for sale. So far
Very standard :
Now fitted with the Eibach Pro kit and 18" wheels
And you can see the rear problem as she sits like a tractor :
Front :
The car is now having the kit fitted, will post new pics of rear set up once I fit the 5mm spring pads, or shims as the dealer calls them
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Yeah it is starting to take shape, I have 2x C class to do in the next few weeks. This one we have had in stock for over a year, petrol cars are hard to get rid off over here 
The next one is a 220CDI, will probably use the Eibach's again and have the 5mm spring pads at the ready
I can only asume that thats what the problem is with the rear, the biggest size spring pads, cant wait to get the new ones to see how much of a difference they make, I hope that it will balance the car out nice.
It is having a Reiger kit fitted at the minute, so in the end it should turn out well (Hopefully), ohhh and the black handles painted and that reminds me cause I havent told the bodyshop to do that yet
The next one is a 220CDI, will probably use the Eibach's again and have the 5mm spring pads at the ready
I can only asume that thats what the problem is with the rear, the biggest size spring pads, cant wait to get the new ones to see how much of a difference they make, I hope that it will balance the car out nice.
It is having a Reiger kit fitted at the minute, so in the end it should turn out well (Hopefully), ohhh and the black handles painted and that reminds me cause I havent told the bodyshop to do that yet
Last edited by sparkyireland; Apr 2, 2008 at 04:56 PM.
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C320 Sports Coupe 2003
Tein Springs Question
OK so I'm puzzled. If you go to the Tein website and look at the data the spring rates on their coilovers are all listed at 336/448 lbs/inch (front/rear) for all models (sedan and coupe).
The springs (if you just get the lowering springs) are listed at 146/476 lbs/inch for the sedan and wagon and 112/453 lbs/inch for the coupe.
This maybe a newb question but why are the fronts seemingly so soft compared to the coilovers? I understand coilovers will be stiffer - but X2?? and the rears stay at about the same rate. Is this right or is this a mistake in their data?
The springs (if you just get the lowering springs) are listed at 146/476 lbs/inch for the sedan and wagon and 112/453 lbs/inch for the coupe.
This maybe a newb question but why are the fronts seemingly so soft compared to the coilovers? I understand coilovers will be stiffer - but X2?? and the rears stay at about the same rate. Is this right or is this a mistake in their data?
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sparkyireland,
You're car has so many little subtle differences from the US spec cars...
Black handles
Different Grille
No chrome on the impact strips around the car
Its interesting to see. I really like how people on the other side of the pond get the no chrome impact strips all the way around the car!
You're car has so many little subtle differences from the US spec cars...
Black handles
Different Grille
No chrome on the impact strips around the car
Its interesting to see. I really like how people on the other side of the pond get the no chrome impact strips all the way around the car!
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OK so I'm puzzled. If you go to the Tein website and look at the data the spring rates on their coilovers are all listed at 336/448 lbs/inch (front/rear) for all models (sedan and coupe).
The springs (if you just get the lowering springs) are listed at 146/476 lbs/inch for the sedan and wagon and 112/453 lbs/inch for the coupe.
This maybe a newb question but why are the fronts seemingly so soft compared to the coilovers? I understand coilovers will be stiffer - but X2?? and the rears stay at about the same rate. Is this right or is this a mistake in their data?
The springs (if you just get the lowering springs) are listed at 146/476 lbs/inch for the sedan and wagon and 112/453 lbs/inch for the coupe.
This maybe a newb question but why are the fronts seemingly so soft compared to the coilovers? I understand coilovers will be stiffer - but X2?? and the rears stay at about the same rate. Is this right or is this a mistake in their data?
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sparkyireland,
You're car has so many little subtle differences from the US spec cars...
Black handles
Different Grille
No chrome on the impact strips around the car
Its interesting to see. I really like how people on the other side of the pond get the no chrome impact strips all the way around the car!
You're car has so many little subtle differences from the US spec cars...
Black handles
Different Grille
No chrome on the impact strips around the car
Its interesting to see. I really like how people on the other side of the pond get the no chrome impact strips all the way around the car!
I am not gonna even post a pick of the interior, blue cloth with wallnut
The good thing is that the car is a one owner car and the last owner was an old gentleman, so it is like brand new. Its hard to believe that we have had it in stock for over a year, no one wants it. I work in the family car business and run the workshop so my dad sent this too me and told me to do what I wanted with it so it can be sold, so I ordered wheels, Reiger kit and springs as you would
I am hoping to have all work completed early in the week so I will post up some pics of the transformation
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c320 2002
you suspension advice needed
Hi i am thinking to buy the following tein coiler over kit:
http://www.k1motorsport.com/mb/suspension.htm
at 769.00$ there is only one, tein basin coil over.
Please tell me what you think. cuz i dont want to do a mistake. also i dont want to spend to much, so i thaught it was a good choice.
let me know what you think and if they are easy to install. meaning do any car garage install coil overs or you need to go to a specialist for installation.
thks so much guys.
http://www.k1motorsport.com/mb/suspension.htm
at 769.00$ there is only one, tein basin coil over.
Please tell me what you think. cuz i dont want to do a mistake. also i dont want to spend to much, so i thaught it was a good choice.
let me know what you think and if they are easy to install. meaning do any car garage install coil overs or you need to go to a specialist for installation.
thks so much guys.
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Hi i am thinking to buy the following tein coiler over kit:
http://www.k1motorsport.com/mb/suspension.htm
at 769.00$ there is only one, tein basin coil over.
Please tell me what you think. cuz i dont want to do a mistake. also i dont want to spend to much, so i thaught it was a good choice.
let me know what you think and if they are easy to install. meaning do any car garage install coil overs or you need to go to a specialist for installation.
thks so much guys.
http://www.k1motorsport.com/mb/suspension.htm
at 769.00$ there is only one, tein basin coil over.
Please tell me what you think. cuz i dont want to do a mistake. also i dont want to spend to much, so i thaught it was a good choice.
let me know what you think and if they are easy to install. meaning do any car garage install coil overs or you need to go to a specialist for installation.
thks so much guys.
i'm running on basics. i love em! its a dropped ride, but ride quality is WAYYY better than stock!
i would recommend going to a specialist for install.
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2005 Mercedes Benz C230K SS
H&R coilover install + sway bar link broken...
Installed H&R coilover ... the next day my sway bar link broke... Yes I know other than to fix it, any advice, opinions, and best place to get another one or is there another option?
As far as the H&R coilover install, I really like where it's sittin at the moment considering I'm on stock rims and hopefully make an adjustment when i get rims. My sway bar link came loose and bent probably when i put it in reverse.
Thanks guys!
As far as the H&R coilover install, I really like where it's sittin at the moment considering I'm on stock rims and hopefully make an adjustment when i get rims. My sway bar link came loose and bent probably when i put it in reverse.
Thanks guys!
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You'll get that sometimes.
It's time to replace 'em with better parts...http://forums.mbworld.org/forums/sho...d.php?t=230051
Before you do, ensure that their failure was not caused by any mechanical interference.
It's time to replace 'em with better parts...http://forums.mbworld.org/forums/sho...d.php?t=230051
Before you do, ensure that their failure was not caused by any mechanical interference.
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I just installed mine this weekend as well. I wasnt happy with how high the rears sat so I may get some lower perch pads to help lower it. It's at it's lowest setting already and is still too high. I can get two fingers underneath the rear fender
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man i wish my rears were a little higher, lmao!
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BTW, my friend did remove his spring perches (H&R as well) and his rears were tucked in really bad..You barely could see his rear tires's sidewall..No rubbing in his case tho
Maybe you should try to remove the pads first..
Check out the pics of his car..His nickname here is SEXPHERE
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If you're talking about the spring pads, they aren't supposed to be used with c/o's at all. At the lowest setting, H&R's should give you a drop in the rear where your tires are tucked behind the fender.
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First and Third pics are the rears. The backs have settled a little since Saturday and now I can fit one finger in
Time to change my signature
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I am just guessing but I purchased Steve's Coilover system when his ride was totalled. He did have the wagon. i'll take a picture and upload it here
First and Third pics are the rears. The backs have settled a little since Saturday and now I can fit one finger in
Time to change my signature
First and Third pics are the rears. The backs have settled a little since Saturday and now I can fit one finger in
Time to change my signature
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Not a chance. If they're all the way down you should barely be able to see the sidewall of your tire. Make sure the spring pads were removed during installation.
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