W203/CL203 Suspension (Shocks/Springs/Sway Bars) Discussion/Upgrade Thread
01-05-2006, 01:26 PM
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I highly recommend the TEIN coilovers. I'm running a set of Basics on my C230 sedan. Like Drex said, your best bet for a nice drop from stock 2004.5+ C230 ride height is a set of coilovers.
01-05-2006, 01:45 PM
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Midnight Blue 2004.5 C230 Kompressor Sport Sedan. 2002 w210 E320, 2009 w211 E350 Sport
Originally Posted by kingkong
ok the pics
i think the drop is alright, but the camber look bad ***
others with cupkit, whats your camber at ???
i think the drop is alright, but the camber look bad ***
others with cupkit, whats your camber at ???
Also, keep in mind, spring pads are ONLY for the rear. No spring pads in the front.
01-05-2006, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by MercedeSC32
question about springs, are the H&R springs reliable? will they screw up my cambers? is it gonna look bad?
Anytime you change the ride height of a vehicle, it will have an effect on the camber. The camber won't be bad, since the ride height will not change drastically from the AMG springs you currently have on your car.
Besides, camber is not about how it looks, but is more about how it will affect performance and tire wear.
01-05-2006, 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by MercedeSC32
how much of a drop is there for h&r?
I'm pretty sure the C32 comes with a #2 pad in the rear as well, so the rear will be more noticeable.
Either way, I think it would be a waste of money.
01-06-2006, 01:30 AM
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Cup kit consist of a matching spring and a set of damper, it similar to our stock suspension but provide lowering and stiffer ride. Coil over on the other hand can be height adjusted.
01-07-2006, 01:00 PM
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You should've done some research first before jumping the gun and just going to buy springs. Just buying springs will not be much of an upgrade from the stock springs you have on your '06 sport sedan.
01-07-2006, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Johnjohn13
anyone??? I'm about to buy springs and would like to get this information before committing to buying a set. Thanks.
01-07-2006, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Sanny
this might be a dumb question but whats the basic difference between a cupkit and coilovers?
Coilovers are springs/shock combos that are adjustable. Depending on what company you go to and what setup you choose, that will depend on what portion of the coilover is adjustable. Search for the suspension threads and read the two suspension threads that are stickyed at the top.
01-07-2006, 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Johnjohn13
anyone??? I'm about to buy springs and would like to get this information before committing to buying a set. Thanks.
i ithnk i will take that money and get coilovers.
01-07-2006, 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Sanny
i have a very new pair of eibach pro kit id love to get rid of. i can get u a pretty good deal with install if u are in the so california area.
i ithnk i will take that money and get coilovers.
i ithnk i will take that money and get coilovers.
Lemme know when you're ready to do it. I have a place in So-Cal I can recommend you to that will do install also.
01-07-2006, 10:06 PM
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thanks drexappeal! keep ur ears open for me? probably no one wants to do that particular upgrade anwyays.
my installer recommended r and w coil overs? but im not trusting him too much anymore, he installed the eibachs.
have you heard of those? he said i could still get h and r if i really wanted to.
when you adjust your coil overs can you like do it on the fly? or do you have to jack up one wheel to take pressure off?
but, he said hed take out the springs of the eibach and put them in a new car and do the install of the coilovers at the same time (when/if i find a buyer).
my installer recommended r and w coil overs? but im not trusting him too much anymore, he installed the eibachs.
have you heard of those? he said i could still get h and r if i really wanted to.
when you adjust your coil overs can you like do it on the fly? or do you have to jack up one wheel to take pressure off?
but, he said hed take out the springs of the eibach and put them in a new car and do the install of the coilovers at the same time (when/if i find a buyer).
01-08-2006, 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Sanny
how much do u tihnk i can get them on my car for with the install?
thanks blake p
thanks blake p
If you want to get TEIN Basic's just figure anywhere in between $800-900 for the coilovers. Depending on where you go, install can be anywhere from $50-200.
Since you're in L.A., if you're really interested, hit me up a PM.
02-07-2006, 11:10 PM
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Only a couple of the links worked for me whats up!
Originally Posted by drexappeal
PLEASE NOTE: I've been compiling this information over the past year and never got the time to filter it down, correct it etc., but I figured it would be helpful.
Also, this is mainly for “newbies” that want to know what suspension options they have for this car (so that there's no excuse for starting a "new" thread on this topic), as well as a "refresher" for "oldies" that still haven't changed their OEM set up. Just another one of “drexappeal’s helpful hints”.
W203 (C CLASS) SUSPENSION OPTIONS
Springs:
AMG - http://www3.mercedes-benz.com/omb/am...c/fahrwerk.htm
Brabus - http://www.apsportsline.com/echocart...products_id=73
Carlsson - http://www.carlsson.de/en/tuning/c-k...hrwerk/01.html
Lorinser – Check Evosport (MBWorld sponsor) or Lorinser website
Eibach -
H&R - http://www.hrsprings.com/site/frames/frameproducts.html
Renntech - http://www.renntechmercedes.com/spla...lass_w203.html
Vogtland
Shocks:
Brabus – same URL as above or check Brabus for more info.
H&R – same URL as above
Koni – Check Puremotorsports (MBWorld sponsor)
Bilstein - http://www.bilstein.com/html/applications/index.htm
Integrated Spring/Shock combo:
H&R Cupkit – same URL as above
Carlsson Sport suspension – same URL as above
Coilovers:
Bilstein PSS-9 Coilovers (Fully adjustable damper and ride height) - http://www.bilstein.com/html/applications/index.htm
Carlsson RS Sport Suspension (Fully adjustable damper and ride height) – same URL as above
KW Coilovers (Fully adjustable damper and ride height) - http://www.kw-gmbh.de/e_version/gewi...erke/index.php
H&R (Ride height adjustable only) – same URL as above
TEIN Super Sprint (Fully adjustable damper and ride height) – IN DEVELOPMENT
Sway Bars:
AMG
H&R
Check out Evosport’s website for some of the suspension set ups:
http://www.evosport.com/product/default.aspx
Check out Pure Motorsports website for some suspension set ups:
http://www.pure-motorsport.com/produ....php/CA=7/PA=7
Good luck, Everybody.
PS…If anybody can add to or correct any of the information on this thread, please feel free to PM me and I’ll edit what I’ve already indicated or you can just reply on this thread.
Moderators, if you want to sticky this, please feel free to do so. It might even be good for the AMG w203 thread, but figured I'd post here first and let you guys decide.
Also, this is mainly for “newbies” that want to know what suspension options they have for this car (so that there's no excuse for starting a "new" thread on this topic), as well as a "refresher" for "oldies" that still haven't changed their OEM set up. Just another one of “drexappeal’s helpful hints”.
W203 (C CLASS) SUSPENSION OPTIONS
Springs:
AMG - http://www3.mercedes-benz.com/omb/am...c/fahrwerk.htm
Brabus - http://www.apsportsline.com/echocart...products_id=73
Carlsson - http://www.carlsson.de/en/tuning/c-k...hrwerk/01.html
Lorinser – Check Evosport (MBWorld sponsor) or Lorinser website
Eibach -
H&R - http://www.hrsprings.com/site/frames/frameproducts.html
Renntech - http://www.renntechmercedes.com/spla...lass_w203.html
Vogtland
Shocks:
Brabus – same URL as above or check Brabus for more info.
H&R – same URL as above
Koni – Check Puremotorsports (MBWorld sponsor)
Bilstein - http://www.bilstein.com/html/applications/index.htm
Integrated Spring/Shock combo:
H&R Cupkit – same URL as above
Carlsson Sport suspension – same URL as above
Coilovers:
Bilstein PSS-9 Coilovers (Fully adjustable damper and ride height) - http://www.bilstein.com/html/applications/index.htm
Carlsson RS Sport Suspension (Fully adjustable damper and ride height) – same URL as above
KW Coilovers (Fully adjustable damper and ride height) - http://www.kw-gmbh.de/e_version/gewi...erke/index.php
H&R (Ride height adjustable only) – same URL as above
TEIN Super Sprint (Fully adjustable damper and ride height) – IN DEVELOPMENT
Sway Bars:
AMG
H&R
Check out Evosport’s website for some of the suspension set ups:
http://www.evosport.com/product/default.aspx
Check out Pure Motorsports website for some suspension set ups:
http://www.pure-motorsport.com/produ....php/CA=7/PA=7
Good luck, Everybody.
PS…If anybody can add to or correct any of the information on this thread, please feel free to PM me and I’ll edit what I’ve already indicated or you can just reply on this thread.
Moderators, if you want to sticky this, please feel free to do so. It might even be good for the AMG w203 thread, but figured I'd post here first and let you guys decide.
02-08-2006, 01:21 AM
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Only a couple of the links worked for me whats up!
02-08-2006, 01:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Blake P
The links have probably changed in the (nearly) year that has passed since he made the thread.
Bilstein have a shock asbsorber (sport) which has a shorter body to give more travel.
