JWS3

Just curious, but are MB's published specs for 0-60, 1/4 mile etc accurate, or are they like BMW and somewhat understate the results? I am quite curious as to how well the upcoming C350 will do and so far only see German language results.

mbny

someone on here posted 0-60 on the C230k Sport sedan for 6.8 seconds w/ manual tranny using the Gtech and MBUSA posted 7.1 seconds on the same car so I'd say they're underrated similar to BMW's

Outland

BS. Gtech is slightly optimistic. I have one. Its great for seeing what works and what doesn't, mod wise(and a lot cheaper than constant dynos), but the times are always a little fast.

The 230SS(the car in that post) is quoted at 7.5 seconds to 60, IIRC on the Benz page. Most tests put it at 8.0 or higher.

The original C230 Coupe was listed at 7.2 on the MB site. Tested times were 7.1 to 7.6.

The C350, OTOH, seems woefully conservative. The new SLK350 has the same tranny, engine, and wieghs about the same, and does 60 in 5.4. The C350 is supposedly 6.4. I'd expect high fives.

ctC230K

that would be ME yeah, 0-60 times on manufacturer's websites are with two adult males in the car and a full tank of gas. gtech might be optimisitic, maybe by .2 sec, so 0-60 is most likely 7 seconds flat, but that would make my gtech time with my 323i of 7.4 seconds 7.6 seconds.

ctC230K

by original you mean the 2.3 engine?

AdamVax

i saw on a website that the 05' C230K SS does 0-60 in 6.8 in manual transmission and in auto transmission does 7.0-7.1

ctC230K

was that website mbworld.org? and was it posted by me? lol
i dunno bout 6.8, probably 7.0

AdamVax

i donno maybe im wrong....but iv for sure seen it say 0-60 in 7.0 but im not 100% about the 6.8 ill give you the site if i find it again

ctC230K

maybe 6.8 or faster with chip, air filter, pulleys, probably 6.5 with all that

bahnbrnr

Outland those numbers seem slow. I don't know what the exact numbers are. All I know is that my c320 coupe 6 speed walked away from a BMW 330 on the autobahn toll booth going into Paris. Car had about 750 miles on it so I didn't even take it over 5100 rpm. Took it up to 110 backed off and the bmw pulled up and gave a BIG thumbs up in total respect. From what I have read a 330 does 60 in low 6's so I think the c320 is close and c230 just a tick behind. IMHO

ctC230K

oh yeah, no doubt the 320 is fast. i'm going to request one for my next service appointment. are you sure the 330 was trying?

Outland

A manual C320 Coupe is mid 6 to sixty. The auto is 6.9/7.1.

Yeah, hate to rain on your parade, but I'm with Ct, was the 330 really trying to race? Youre car is heavier, and at a disadvantage in HP to the 330, so you see where this is going, right?

I'd say a Kleemanized C230 1.8 would be good for high(very) sixes to 7 flat...the whole kit shaves off a second or so to sixty I hear. The 1.8 feels quite quick when you drive it... a lot of that butt dyno error is due to the fact that these cars run through the gears quicker, and the 1.8 revs more freely than both V6's and the old 2.3.

Its not a slow car, but its not a rocket either. I like the C230SS 1.8 a lot. It gets great mileage, and is quite spunky around town or on the highway. It does however, make noticeably less bottom end torque, something that makes the 2.3 really grunt out of the hole.

ctC230K

what about chipped, exhaust, pulleys, air filter, 18x8.5 wheels?

mbny

i've driven the C320 sedan manual and it didn't come close to my 330. low 6's is conservative for the 330 manual. BMW posted it at 6.4 for the manual in their brochure and that's about the worst time i've seen for it.

bahnbrnr

Yes he was trying. We had been playing cat and mouse for about 50 miles. Anywhere from 85 mph to 125. When we where pulling into the toll booth he looked over and motioned for us to go for it when we had paid the arm and a leg. Cost about 15 euros at that booth for about 40 miles of driving. When we pulled off he gunned it and so did I about a split second later. The enthustiastic thumbs up was out of respect and fun we were having. Yes the 330 is quick, but I had him. Oh buy the way, the German rep. that presented the car to us at the plant said that since we were driving the car in Europe MB would not rechip the car when it got to the states. MB says there cars are limited to 130 in the US 155 Europe. Car has 4500 miles on it last week and at 145 on an open stretch of road with no one in site, I chickened out.

ctC230K

wow awesome! and I thought tolls in Jersey were bad.

i reached 125MPH sunday night, car felt like it was on rails. I've discovered the engine redlines at 100MPH in 4th gear, and keeps going after that!! Continues pulling hard after 100 too.

i did 135 in the 323i once, that car is a little twitchy at high speeds in comparison but could be cause of the many miles.

Outland

BMW's are not as stable at speed. The faster steering and tighter suspension make them more nimble at low speed, but pay the price up top.

ctC230K

lol!! the "faster steering and tighter suspension"?
on a 330 maybe but not on my 323i rofl. that thing as so much body roll compared to the c230.

mbny

i was about to say "something doesn't sound right?". my 330 would crush my C230 in turns and corners. there's this one spot by me when coming off the LIE onto the seaford oyster bay expressway that's a nice long, tight curve. i'd take it at about 85 mph in the 330 but had to back off at about 70-75 in the C230 b/c it felt like it was gonna break loose. as for the 330 at high speeds, i've hit the governed top speed several times and it was as tight as a virgin and very solid and stable. one thing i notice more in the C230 that i never had a problem with in the 330 is that on very windy days, the C230 gets pushed easily side to side on the highway where i never had that problem w/ the bmw. but i'm loving my C class, it's a great cruiser

Capt Nemo o2

I know that exit!!! Going from the SOB south to the LIE west right? That is a fun exit... One that I love and take almost everyday on my way home is the exit from the Meadowbrook South to the Loop Parkway... Hit that at 70mph, enter it around 100, threashold brake right before the first turn and shift into 3rd, straighten out slam on the gas, threashold brake again for turn two, then slam on the gas in 3rd to exit it... And then there is the other way, going from the loop to meadowbrook north hit that at 80 (did it once in my Jeep at 70...)

ctC230K

lol. 330i performance package, one of the few cars i'd take in exchange for my c230.

Outland

Every Beemer Ive ever been in has felt a little more agile at lower speeds, but not as solid at say, 100. The 05 cars, OTOH, are close to a 3 series in responsiveness at low speed.

Belle the Benz

If this is any help.....my G-tech recorded 6.7 with traction control on and 6.2 with it off. I only did 2 runs and then saw a cop so I had to stop. As soon as I find a good place to make more runs I will see what the average is. I still haven’t found out what RPM to launch at (break standing in my auto).

2005 C320 Sport Sedan

ctC230K

mbny

i'm referring to when heading westbound on the LIE then take the ramp for the SOB south. not sure if that's what you meant or not. i remember some jerkoff riding my *** on the LIE in CLK430 and being a *****. I think i was heading home from my parents, at about 1am. once we hit that ramp, i smoked his ***, jumped on the SOB, was just crusing in the right lane. guy gets on finally, jumps in the middle lane and does a fly by.