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Old 08-01-2005, 06:06 AM
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Question did i get ripped off on my lease?

I use to think that buying a car was cheaper (thanks to my dad) so i bought my first car (01 blk/blk c320) and my warranty just ended so i decided to trade it in and get a new car.

On July 31st I shopped around a bit and i decided to get a c230 sedan pewter/ash with bi-xenons and sunroof. The msrp was 35,000 i beleive. The deal i got was 39 month lease, $360 a month (with tax) and $4,000 down. They gave me $18,000 for my car even though kelly blue book trade in value was $20,000. So what do you think of the deal I got?

Only after leasing the car they told me mercedes doesnt cover service a and b costs and asked me if i wanted my services to be payed for for an extra $35 but I thought it would be better to just pay for the oil changes every 12,000 miles and not worry about the services too much since its a lease anyways.

I'd appreciate any feedback you guys can give me on the deal I got. Also, are the services really that necessary? the salesman who sold me the car said that if i just pay for the oil changes ever 12,000 miles I should be good since its a lease.
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your lease sounds fair to me. $360 out the door aint bad. Some have gotten better, some have gotten worse.

the trade in lower then blue book is typical. dealers are not out to help you, there out to make money.
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Originally Posted by myaskov
I use to think that buying a car was cheaper (thanks to my dad) so i bought my first car (01 blk/blk c320) and my warranty just ended so i decided to trade it in and get a new car.

On July 31st I shopped around a bit and i decided to get a c230 sedan pewter/ash with bi-xenons and sunroof. The msrp was 35,000 i beleive. The deal i got was 39 month lease, $360 a month (with tax) and $4,000 down. They gave me $18,000 for my car even though kelly blue book trade in value was $20,000. So what do you think of the deal I got?

Only after leasing the car they told me mercedes doesnt cover service a and b costs and asked me if i wanted my services to be payed for for an extra $35 but I thought it would be better to just pay for the oil changes every 12,000 miles and not worry about the services too much since its a lease anyways.

I'd appreciate any feedback you guys can give me on the deal I got. Also, are the services really that necessary? the salesman who sold me the car said that if i just pay for the oil changes ever 12,000 miles I should be good since its a lease.
Sounds like you got the Summer Event lease offer, which it requires you to put down almost $4k, though you are paying $360 instead of $329, because of taxes, license, etc. (the 4k don't include that). I am just confused about the $18k you got for your C320... you said trade in value... I am assuming this money you got for the car doesn't have to do anything with your new lease right?

I was about to do get that deal also, but I ordered an E90 instead :p

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If kelly blue book trade in value was $20,000...ask for $20000
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Maybe I just don't understand leases, but to me it sounds more like your getting close to buying the car not leasing it. Ok lets see:

35,000 - 18,000 = 17,000
msrp trade

17,000 - 4,000 = 13,000
down

360 x 39 = 14,040

13,000 - 14,040 = negative

Could someone help me out. I dont really understand leases....is this how they usually work?
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Maybe I just don't understand leases, but to me it sounds more like your getting close to buying the car not leasing it. Ok lets see:

35,000 - 18,000 = 17,000
msrp trade

17,000 - 4,000 = 13,000
down

360 x 39 = 14,040

13,000 - 14,040 = negative

Could someone help me out. I dont really understand leases....is this how they usually work?
not at all. it doesn't make sense? what happened to your $18k trade in? u sure your leasing and not financing? your total lease should be less than $18k.
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I was about to do get that deal also, but I ordered an E90 instead :p
which E90 did you order? i went with the C b/c i wasn't feeling the E90 in pics i saw, but hadn't seen one in person. then i started liking the black 330i sport but saturday i saw a new 330i sport in that charcoal gray color and it was absolutely gorgeous! this thing looked so hot and classy, i couldn't stop staring at it. definitely wish i had waited for the E90's to come out. i love the looks of my C class, but that new 3 with the right options and color looks amazing!
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$360 per month sounds reasonable, depending on how many miles a year did you get on the lease? did you put $4000 down in cash i.e. or did they show you $2k for your trade (the variance of what you still owed on the car vs. the present value), and you came up with $2k out of pocket?
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not at all. it doesn't make sense? what happened to your $18k trade in? u sure your leasing and not financing? your total lease should be less than $18k.
I'm pretty sure he owed money on his previous car, so the dealer just squared away that loan, leaving the price of the new car unaffected (unless he owed more than 18k--was "upside-down" as some like to say--in which case the money he put down went at least partially towards settling his loan).

Anyway, to address the first poster, it sounds about right, especially if you are outside California. East coast discounts are nowhere near as deep.

Enjoy.
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Originally Posted by delbomber
I'm pretty sure he owed money on his previous car, so the dealer just squared away that loan, leaving the price of the new car unaffected (unless he owed more than 18k--was "upside-down" as some like to say--in which case the money he put down went at least partially towards settling his loan).

Anyway, to address the first poster, it sounds about right, especially if you are outside California. East coast discounts are nowhere near as deep.

Enjoy.
ah, gotcha. that makes more sense. i was under the impression the car was paid up.

back to topic, your numbers sound about right then. i'm alittle more per month than you but shelled out alittle less out of pocket and took 15k miles per year.
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I pay $220 (with tax) every month..

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I pay $220 (with tax) every month..

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Wow...how'd you pull that off?
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The lease sounds fair to me, cept i can't figure out what happend with the 18k trade in. Seems like they just took it. Unless it wasn't paid off already. And how many month is this lease?
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sorry i forgot to say that i still owed $15,000 on the car so i got to keep $3,000 so i put out another $1,000 out of my pocket to cover the down payment. I'm kinda pissed though because i wanted black/black and they didnt have it but today bh benz called me and they told me they could give me $340 a month with 4000 down on the same car as i bought except black on black and without the bixenons but i guess i cant end do anything anymore since the deal is done, right?

Two more questions guys, thanks a lot you've been a big help!

1) Can i use regular gas instead of premium in my car or will it mess up the engine or something during the three years that im driving it?

2) Whats a good place to go to get tints done in the LA area?
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Originally Posted by myaskov
Two more questions guys, thanks a lot you've been a big help!

1) Can i use regular gas instead of premium in my car or will it mess up the engine or something during the three years that im driving it?

2) Whats a good place to go to get tints done in the LA area?
those 2 questions have been discussed here many times.
I'm sure someone is going to spoil you anyway and give you the answers,
but that way, you'll never learn to search the forum.

Others will just flame you for not searching. At least i'm being nice about it.

and no it didn't take me more time to write this, than to give him the answers to his questions.
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Originally Posted by myaskov
sorry i forgot to say that i still owed $15,000 on the car so i got to keep $3,000 so i put out another $1,000 out of my pocket to cover the down payment. I'm kinda pissed though because i wanted black/black and they didnt have it but today bh benz called me and they told me they could give me $340 a month with 4000 down on the same car as i bought except black on black and without the bixenons but i guess i cant end do anything anymore since the deal is done, right?

Two more questions guys, thanks a lot you've been a big help!

1) Can i use regular gas instead of premium in my car or will it mess up the engine or something during the three years that im driving it?

2) Whats a good place to go to get tints done in the LA area?

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Originally Posted by myaskov
I'm kinda pissed though because i wanted black/black and they didnt have it but today bh benz called me and they told me they could give me $340 a month with 4000 down on the same car as i bought except black on black and without the bixenons but i guess i cant end do anything anymore since the deal is done, right?
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yea but was that $340 before or after tax and the other crap they pile on? any way $20 more amonth is not going to break the bank
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the lease didnt rip you off. but the trade-in did.
that's how it works.
sell your car to some other dealer. they might
give you more.
and then come back and lease the car at that
price. see if they give you dat.

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