I wouldn't say versus. We're all friends here, I'm having a blast talking and learning!

 

i'm just playing Ricky....
i know you guys love to show off your smarts !

 

My father knows this one guy. He got a Lexus and would always tell people how Lexus was far superior than Mercedes-Benz.

Then one day he traded his Lexus in for a Mercedes-Benz

The moral of the story is Lexus may make excellent cars but deep down most people would desire a Mercedes-Benz more than a Lexus

 

Oh yeah no doubt. But it's changing over time. Just as before one of the best premium sedans you could buy was a Jaguar.
We all know where Jaguar is now.

 

bring it on


Actually, Intel went back to the "P2" architecture (first debut in the Penrium Pro, then the Pentium II, the the PIII) for their mobile processor (Pentium M) for power and heat reasons- the PIV is so complex that it sucks a lot of power and generates a lot of heat. At the same speed a PIII will kick a P4 in the *****, the only advantage of the PIV is (WAS) that it had such a long pipeline the clock should be able to scale pretty high. The current mid-range P4 is over 3x the size of the first one which was top-of-the-line when it was released (size measured in transistor-count). The physical size of the transistors is about half but they are consuming more power. So, you've got a LOT more heat being generated with LESS surface for it to transfer so the entire thing heats up rather quickly. The higher the clock speed the more power you need to give it to keep it stable, the more power you give it the hotter it gets, the hotter it gets the less stable it is. So, you rather quickly run into clock speed brick wall. What can you do then to increase computational power? Make it do more with those clocks. How do you do that? Add more transistors! But, the whole damned thing is so complicated that can just tack on a few little things here and there, if you start screwing with it you end up having to add LOTS of stuff because everything you add you introduce bugs and every bug you fix you create 20 more bugs which also have to be fixed, and for every one of those you fix you create 20 more which have to be fixed! Now, lets remember that every transistor you add makes the thing hotter. So, when you start adding large chunks of transistors you have to scale the clock speed down in large chunks as well. So, now you're adding huge ammounts of transistors that have a minimal increase on efficiency but have a tremendous decrease on your maximum clock speed. Before you know it, everytime you try to put out a faster part you end up with a SLOWER one!

that is why intels next-generation mobile, desktop, and entry-level server chips will all be based on an architecture first introcuded about a tecade ago

if you have any more questions feel free to direct them to Bob Caldwell who was the cheif architect for NetBurst (the architecture that PIV's use) as I'm sure he could do a much more in-depth explaination than I ever could (and the man speaks wonderfully)

 

quite literally a ford taurus

 

ok back on topic!!

my number one reason for hating lexus?


uglier than the last 3 girls ive done the nasty with!!!!

 

Lexus does make great cars. Thought i don't think it's too comparable to German cars. First off i don't believe it will actually produce 306HP, sounds waay overestimated. Unless you guys can provide the actual specs from the company. The all wheel drive is a nice feature though, i heard it's great on the new GS. The old lexus is was supposed to give competition... never really did did it?

 

My thoughts exactly!!

 

 

I have seen that car at Auto show, and I didnt like it at all, it looks beter on photos. older IS 300 was beter.
plus Infinity already makes G-35 (close to 300hp with awd option )and it looks beter.
Lexus makes great cars , but they all ugly. (for me)
GS looks kinda good.

 

MB lovers are always slamming other competitors for this or that...I'm a Benz driver, but I'm still objective. Everyone raves about the interiors of a benz...what, the one with the fake leather, dinosaur headunits and so many squeaks it requires a sticky at the top of this forum? Be honest guys...the new IS may be generic looking, but it's interior and engine kick the C's ***. Whether you want to admit it or not, at this price point Audi, Infiniti, and Lexus aren't just challenging MB, they're beating them. Performance, luxury, AND value, with the only thing missing being the look and cache of the three-pointed star.

I love my Benz and think it's one of the sharpest cars on the block--yeah, even stock--but this Asian bashing really is more of sign of insecurity than confidence.

 

i visit that sticky every month. i almost got everything patched up, then i'll be rattle/squeky free!!

 

lots of option on the is350 not available to c-class, but standard or optional on the higher mb models. e.g., push-start, dynamic cruise control

 

bashing ? I thought some people here were only saying they didn't like the look of the new IS350.

 

That is true...until the end of this month when Japan will start selling under the "Lexus" brand name instead of Toyota, as it has been. True, still a Toyota underneath but a pretty nice car I must say. I wouldn't mind having one

 

and teh chicks, meng! teh chicks!

honestly, how many girls flock to a lexus vs a benz... yeah, thats what i thought

 

also, what about those people who would buy a mb and then replace that 3-pointed star with a flat badge ?

 

People that buy the C350 over the new Lexus 350 are doing it simply so they can say they own Mercedes. The Lexus will beat the Benz in just about every category. In the important ones, ie. reliability & build quality Lex will beat them handily. And as far as pricing, the argument for the Lex is even stronger. For ~40k you'll get a fairly loaded IS350. For ~40k, will you even be able to buy the c350?

The MB name can no longer command the higher price, they have nothing (except name) to back it up any longer. Lexus already out sells MB here, and all indications are that they will continue to do so until MB can find a way to build better vehicles, provide better service, and compete $-wise competitively.

Mercedes got it's teeth kicked in on this one.

 

I agree , although the proof will be after this car is driven.They may have 300 horsepower in this thing but the suspension systems on Lexus' are softer than our policy on deporting illegal immigrants.

 

Pwahahahahah!!!

 

with the is300, i found the suspension fine. other than the good deal i got on the benz, the other wonderful factor mb had was a low coefficent drag which created a quiter ride to me than the is300. but then, lexus changed a couple of things on the is350 which might make it just as quiet. we will just have to wait and see how a test drive on the is350 would be vs. a c350.

 

There's also an IS 250 that has less Hp, it'll be funny if Lexus came out with an IS 55...rofl

 

Personally I like it! I would have bought a Lexus in a heart beat if they had a two door coupe that was a better deal than the C230K Coupe was at the time. If they do release one some day I would take a serious look at it when I am ready to get the next one. I am not at all happy with the direction Mercedes is going in. Yeah they can dump the coupe, but obviously some people liked them. So why not bring over maybe a CLK230 with the new V-6 to compete with the BMW 3 series 2 door. Hell I would have been happy to have the option of a C Coupe AMG. I personally like a two door, but feel that the price of a CLK320 or CLK350 is way to high compared to some others out there. Like the 325Ci. Then MB goes and dumps a few options that I like and have as well as not offering what the competition does. Lexus and BMW are now offering far better options on there models and more standard features than MB is. Sad really.

 

Yup agree w/TR here too. Don't get me wrong I love MB styling and what not but if you really can get past the whole 'OMG I have and MB' you realize you have paid 20K more for a less reliable/features/etc than the competitoin has. I have had a couple MB's so I really can tell you that if I were to compare my E320(not the E500)that I had vs the new GS430 I would definitely go w/the Lexus hands down. I am not trying to 'pose' anymore, I want a friggin reliable car that will leave me w/a nice chunk of change left and that is technological superior.