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Old Aug 12, 2005 | 11:00 AM
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lol i cant believe ur getting a first year E90...

If you see the metallic black-ish e90 w/the terra acotta interior you will understand E90 is a hell of a nice car
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Old Aug 12, 2005 | 11:50 AM
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Yeah, that was the first thing I thought when I saw a picture of that car from my friend who got one in Singapore. I told him we have the samething over here, its called a Scion Tc.

But anyway, enough with the Lexus bashing and the debate everyones had over and over again. It really is a nice car. I just find the styling somewhat bland.

IMO i'm a first time Mercedes driver, I bought one because of its superior technology and honestly the way it looks / drives. I was dead set on an Infiniti or a Nissan. My last car was a 1992 Nissan Stanza (if anyone knows what that is) that car treated me pretty well through highschool and college. Actually 180,000 miles pretty well. Anyway, to make a long story short about my first new car buying experience, I found that Mercedes & BMW had that "it" that alot of other manufacters miss. Its that something that when you drive the car you feel instant responsiveness and assured driving characteristics. The Americans are way off on that, the Japanesse are close - but thier cars feel more appliance like than fun or inspired. Anyway thats my 2 cents.
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Old Aug 12, 2005 | 12:34 PM
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I would take the lexus. I have a 98 LX470 with 203K miles on it, and it is still going strong. The reliability of it over the years cant be beat. NEVER had a major problem with it. Only things are just routine maintenance.
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Old Aug 12, 2005 | 12:52 PM
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Just keep in mind what are the jap cars made out of
will they hold up in a crash and still let you walk away from it or will you be burried in it .
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Old Aug 12, 2005 | 12:59 PM
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so how good is Lexus rated on safety??? and for MB???
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Old Aug 12, 2005 | 01:00 PM
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They are both very nice cars. it would be hard to choose which one would be better.

I have a MB and a lexus.

so I guess I am in the best of both worlds lol

but when i drive the Lexus RX330 it just feels a lot lighter then the MB for some reason, even though its a bigger car. I am guessing it can be a good thing?
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Old Aug 12, 2005 | 01:01 PM
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in that crash people walked away with some bruises and 1 broken arm.The 3 other doors still worked perfectly.Japan has no natural resourses they buy and copy everything,remember how easly their body panels rust?that's why they use so much plastics on their cars
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Old Aug 12, 2005 | 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by RobertG
in that crash people walked away with some bruises and 1 broken arm.The 3 other doors still worked perfectly.Japan has no natural resourses they buy and copy everything,remember how easly their body panels rust?that's why they use so much plastics on their cars

hmmm, I actually have more plastic on my C32 than I do on the lexus.
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Old Aug 12, 2005 | 01:35 PM
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I wanted an IS300 for a while and figured I would wait for the '06 redesign but then photos of this ugly, slab-sided thing showed up on the internet. I ordered my MB the next week. It looks very much like the Scion (which looks pretty good for 20K, but for 40K I want a better looking car.
It looks very Japanese which, while functional isn't very pretty. Manufacturers everywhere please listen: SLAB-SIDED CARS SUCK! (Lexus IS & GS, the new BMWs, new VW's)

Why is it that people hate decent sized side windows. Windows are slowly starting to look like gunport slits in an armored car. And have you ever seen a lone door-ding on of these flat-surfaced doors? It makes a new car look like a piece of crap.

Cars shouldn't look alike. At a glance can you tell a new AWD 250HP Subaru Legacy GT from a Taurus? Me neither. One car is vastly superior but who cares if it looks like the other grocery-getter. Can't these highly-paid designers come up with something unique or different (without just stealing old stuff. Come on- like we are supposed to dig this new Mustang that doesn't even look as good as the 40 year-old car.)

Sorry, I'm on a rage but I'm just worried that soon there will be no more good looking cars for under $90K.
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Old Aug 12, 2005 | 02:31 PM
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Sorry, I'm on a rage but I'm just worried that soon there will be no more good looking cars for under $90K.
base 911's still under 90k... well until you throw in tax
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Old Aug 12, 2005 | 06:38 PM
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the IS350 might have a HP advantage, but it will only come in auto, which is not that appealing, esp. when trying to build a car to compete against the 3 series. the c350 SS offers the manual option, props to MB.

the IS250 will have a manual though, which to me makes NO sense. so yeah, i'd get the benz.
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Old Aug 12, 2005 | 06:49 PM
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yeah and not only that but there's no way that lexus can touch MB's automatic skills. MB autos are damn near as good as a manual, to the point that the only reason for really having a manual is enjoyment.
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Old Aug 13, 2005 | 12:09 AM
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bring it on


Actually, Intel went back to the "P2" architecture (first debut in the Penrium Pro, then the Pentium II, the the PIII) for their mobile processor (Pentium M) for power and heat reasons- the PIV is so complex that it sucks a lot of power and generates a lot of heat. At the same speed a PIII will kick a P4 in the *****, the only advantage of the PIV is (WAS) that it had such a long pipeline the clock should be able to scale pretty high. The current mid-range P4 is over 3x the size of the first one which was top-of-the-line when it was released (size measured in transistor-count). The physical size of the transistors is about half but they are consuming more power.:

Didn't Intel say future Intel CPU's would all have multiple cores? Smaller, simpler but more efficient, cooler, and collectively a lot faster? For several years now its been hard to tell the chips are getting faster...the chips are running so far ahead of the rest of the computer.

Intel had no choice...the current chips are getting too hot and too complex. Funny how Apple gave up on Power PC and is now going to use Intel. Ha!!
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Old Aug 13, 2005 | 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by prodigy1387
the IS350 might have a HP advantage, but it will only come in auto, which is not that appealing, esp. when trying to build a car to compete against the 3 series. the c350 SS offers the manual option, props to MB.

the IS250 will have a manual though, which to me makes NO sense. so yeah, i'd get the benz.
The IS 250 is a big, phat joke. Its slower and heavier than the old car, more expensive, and no better looking. And mod wise, wouldn't you prefer the old inline six, which can trace its lineage to the Supra?

And the IS350 is even more of a joke. So...306HP. There, that's it. That's the one trump car. The thing is like 3800 lbs, auto only, no AWD...and Lexus can keep thumping this in all its press releases, but the car is no looker. Lexus is still the marriage of a Toyota and a Coffin.
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Old Aug 13, 2005 | 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by b3d_sage
to the point that the only reason for really having a manual is enjoyment.
Try driving that automatic in anything other than a straight line...it won't out perform a stick when you NEED it to stay in a certain gear. Bugs the crap out of me when I hear people saying an automatic is so advanced its better than a manual.

Never will happen. There's something about rowing your own that an auto will never be able to replicate or improve upon.
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Old Aug 13, 2005 | 03:07 AM
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Didn't Intel say future Intel CPU's would all have multiple cores? Smaller, simpler but more efficient, cooler, and collectively a lot faster? For several years now its been hard to tell the chips are getting faster...the chips are running so far ahead of the rest of the computer.

Intel had no choice...the current chips are getting too hot and too complex. Funny how Apple gave up on Power PC and is now going to use Intel. Ha!!
Probably, but I think that's only for the desktop line. Honestly I don't keep up with that kinda stuff anymore. I just use a dual AMD setup
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Old Aug 13, 2005 | 06:35 AM
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Slightly OT.

Just read a comparisson in MT, yes I know, on an Audi, BMW, and Infinity on a long term test. They provided a nice graph showing the noise level of these cars over a period with a reference to when new. Spikes indicated loose body panels, etc. Infinity started out even but over time it got worse than either of the other 2.
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Old Aug 13, 2005 | 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by amdeutsch
Slightly OT.

Just read a comparisson in MT, yes I know, on an Audi, BMW, and Infinity on a long term test. They provided a nice graph showing the noise level of these cars over a period with a reference to when new. Spikes indicated loose body panels, etc. Infinity started out even but over time it got worse than either of the other 2.
Give Infiniti some more time. Nissan has really turned themselves around and started getting some massive cash in the bank. I give it a few more years until they really get on the ball of making stuff that doesn't break when you touch it (therfore surprassing Mercedes)
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Old Aug 13, 2005 | 02:09 PM
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Despite the fact that the IS350 has 300+ horsepower I don't think it will be much faster (if at all) than the C350 and 330i.

Remember the old 330i was rated at 225hp but it was still as quick as a 260hp G35 and TL-S. The new RL is another example. It's rated at 300hp but its not as quick as a E350.

For some reason the Japs hp ratings never quite give it the anticipated edge in accelaration.
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Old Aug 13, 2005 | 06:02 PM
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i'm not a fan of the IS350 but i like this 2006 evo IX MR a lot.

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=105130
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Old Aug 13, 2005 | 11:30 PM
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IS350 doesnt come in with manual, at least the first year. end of story
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Old Aug 14, 2005 | 12:50 AM
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First off i don't believe it will actually produce 306HP, sounds waay overestimated. Unless you guys can provide the actual specs from the company.
http://www.lexus.com/2006is_preview/index.html

The IS 350 boasts a 3.5-liter V6 engine, that generates 306 hp and 277 lb-ft of torque... the IS 350's engine is so powerful it can launch you from 0 to 60 mph in under six seconds.
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Old Aug 14, 2005 | 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted by MidniteBluBenz
For some reason the Japs hp ratings never quite give it the anticipated edge in accelaration.
Many, particularly Honda, get the HP from spinning a smaller motor very high. 2 things come into play, HP is largely a calculation of torque x RPM...but torque is a function of stroke and displacement. High RPM motors tend to be small displacment(relatively) with a short stroke to minimize piston speed inside the cylinder.

That makes for a torque poor motor, or one that has its torque peak well up in the rev range. Getting off the line quickly requires good traction and good torque. So....you have a lower torque motor, coupled to the oft front driven japanese cars meaning poorer off the line traction and its easy to see why a 260HP TL-S is no match for a torquey rear drive car.
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Old Aug 15, 2005 | 02:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Imperial C320
http://www.lexus.com/2006is_preview/index.html

The IS 350 boasts a 3.5-liter V6 engine, that generates 306 hp and 277 lb-ft of torque... the IS 350's engine is so powerful it can launch you from 0 to 60 mph in under six seconds.

LOL....why does Lexus want to lie about there performance, if they say 306 hp...then is 306 hp
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Old Aug 15, 2005 | 02:40 AM
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LOL....why does Lexus want to lie about there performance, if they say 306 hp...then is 306 hp
I think that is actually accurate hp figures. I believe Lexus is getting SAE net figures now. That's why the LS430 is rated a tad less now even though it's the same engine.
Same reason why the Vette is 505 instead of 500 (Z06 of course).
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