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BRAKE Pad, Rotors, & Calipers Discussion Thread (OEM, aftermarket, etc...)

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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 12:07 PM
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the 2004.5 did come with 4-piston brakes. The 2005+ C230's did not.
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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 12:11 PM
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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 12:14 PM
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nevermind- i stand corrected

mine have a bolt on each end, rather then two bolts on each end.
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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 11:54 PM
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Rotors directional???

Zimmerman cross drilled rotors seem to have a pattern different from the random pattern of the stock cross drilled rotors. The pattern for the Zimmermans are radial, so doesn't that mean they're directional?....or would one side look backwards when installed?

UPDATE:
One website states the following:

Which direction should the discs rotate?
It is a popular misconception that the slots or drillings in a disc determine the direction of rotation. In truth, for an internally vented disc, the geometry of the vanes dictates the direction of rotation. There are three vane types in use:

Straight
Pillar vane (comprised of many small posts)
Curved vane
The first two vane types are non-directional, and can be used on either side of the vehicle. The curved vane disc, however, is directional. A curved vane disc must be installed with the vanes running back from the inside to outside diameters in the direction of rotation. Please see figure. Orienting the disc in the manner creates a centrifugal pump. The rotation of the disc causes air to be pumped from the center of the disc, through the vanes, and out through the outside diameter of the disc. This greatly enhances the disc's ability to dissipate heat.

Additionally, all of Brembo's slotted discs are directional as well, regardless of the vane geometry. The discs should be installed such that the end of the slot nearest the outer edge of the disc contacts the pad first. Please see figure.


Directionally the rotors should be mirrored like this:

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Old Jan 23, 2008 | 12:24 AM
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I don't know about Zimmerman but on my EBC, the front passenger is reversed and driver side is directional.

Btw, you need to clear you Inbox for me to respond to your PMs, I think your inbox is overfilled.
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Old Jan 23, 2008 | 12:25 AM
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I don't think it'll really matter. On stock C32 AMG brakes, mercedes only made 2 left rotors, which are used on both sides.
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Old Jan 23, 2008 | 02:16 AM
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Rotora's on mine are specified L/R.
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Old Jan 23, 2008 | 02:36 AM
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Originally Posted by capt_paul
The fronts are 1121C (SKU 029112) and the rears 779C (SKU 823453). Purchased from Autozone
So these #'s are for the 2005 C230 Sport Sedan Morse pads at Auto Zone right?

Does anyone know which walk in auto store sells Zimmerman rotors or Brembo rotors .. Otherwise I will just order them on line.

Which rotors (good ones) have you guys used that was purchased from a store and not on line. I need these parts asap.
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Old Jan 23, 2008 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by pugguy2001
So these #'s are for the 2005 C230 Sport Sedan Morse pads at Auto Zone right?

Does anyone know which walk in auto store sells Zimmerman rotors or Brembo rotors .. Otherwise I will just order them on line.

Which rotors (good ones) have you guys used that was purchased from a store and not on line. I need these parts asap.
I looked for a gillion hours and couldn't find it.
I ended up getting them from "buy mb parts" for $208 shipped.

They sell them in singles, not pairs. Be sure to specify left and right side.
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by capt_paul
The fronts are 1121C (SKU 029112) and the rears 779C (SKU 823453). Purchased from Autozone
Is this the part number for 2005 WITH SPORTS SUSPENSION? I'm looking for them.
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by razorfish228
Is this the part number for 2005 WITH SPORTS SUSPENSION? I'm looking for them.
I could never find it, so I purchased it elsewhere. The autozone guys tell me they don't exist for ones with sports suspension. Apparently they can't even order it. Hmmm.
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by zoomie
I could never find it, so I purchased it elsewhere. The autozone guys tell me they don't exist for ones with sports suspension. Apparently they can't even order it. Hmmm.

I don't see it on the website you mentioned. It comes up with OEM ones. Do you have the link or the part number for the brakepads on the site? I'm assuming you have the sports suspension on your ride as well.

Do they have front and rear or just front?

Thanks
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by pugguy2001
So these #'s are for the 2005 C230 Sport Sedan Morse pads at Auto Zone right?

Does anyone know which walk in auto store sells Zimmerman rotors or Brembo rotors .. Otherwise I will just order them on line.

Which rotors (good ones) have you guys used that was purchased from a store and not on line. I need these parts asap.

I got Brembo rotors for my '06 from Auto Value here in St. Louis. Took two days for them to get them from the main warehouse. I may be a little off but I recall them costing around $120 a piece.
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by razorfish228
I don't see it on the website you mentioned. It comes up with OEM ones. Do you have the link or the part number for the brakepads on the site? I'm assuming you have the sports suspension on your ride as well.

Do they have front and rear or just front?

Thanks
Front pads were purchased at Parts America
CAFU2P20689 U2P-20689 NEW CAR XTRA 2PK

I'm buying the rotors tomorrow at a dealer for $128 + tax each. (zimmermann)
If I had more time, I'd go to Buy MB Parts for $104 shipped total. Unfortunately, I need it asap so i gotta pay $50 more at the dealer.

It's confirmed. The OEM ones are two of the same side. Two lefts I believe. One rotor is actually turning the wrong way. Stupid MB people. Ugh.
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Old Jan 25, 2008 | 07:06 AM
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Just goes to show you that most autozone parts people dont know crap. I posted the sku numbers even. I did all the work for them. I just asked for a manager and they finally figured it out.

They had to special order it, and I received it in 3 days.
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Old Jan 25, 2008 | 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by zoomie
I could never find it, so I purchased it elsewhere. The autozone guys tell me they don't exist for ones with sports suspension. Apparently they can't even order it. Hmmm.
Autozone does have them, my 05 c230 has the sport suspension package, gave him the sku# provided by steveL and he found them...
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Old Jan 25, 2008 | 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by rubenl
Autozone does have them, my 05 c230 has the sport suspension package, gave him the sku# provided by steveL and he found them...
Our autozone guys in the bay area are dumb asses then b/c i called up 3 stores multiple times and talked to different reps and they all said it doesn't exist. Oh well. What can ya do.

If anyone wants slotted rotors, I have 'em for sale in the thread shown in the sig.
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Old Jan 25, 2008 | 08:01 PM
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I ordered the BrakePads from PartsAmerica as you guys recommended and also ordered the rear from them but unfortunately they don't have them in stock. No Rears, ONLY FRONT are available. Does anyone know where to get the ceramic rears than?

I'm also looking to buy CrossDrilled Rear Rotors and have to look around for them. If you have a recommendation on where to buy them on the internet, please let me know.

Thanks!
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Old Jan 25, 2008 | 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by razorfish228
I ordered the BrakePads from PartsAmerica as you guys recommended and also ordered the rear from them but unfortunately they don't have them in stock. No Rears, ONLY FRONT are available. Does anyone know where to get the ceramic rears than?

I'm also looking to buy CrossDrilled Rear Rotors and have to look around for them. If you have a recommendation on where to buy them on the internet, please let me know.

Thanks!
The company doesn't yet make them for the rear. Even the fronts are new.
You can guy rotors at buy mb parts.
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Old Jan 26, 2008 | 01:11 PM
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Stock rotors weigh a ton!

Is it just me or do stock rotors really weigh 45 lb per pair?
The slotted Brembo's I got were a bit over half the weight at about 25 lb.

What's up with that?
Has anyone else noticed the weight of the stock rotors? That's a pretty good way to shed weight if you're into that sort of stripping kinda thing.

How does this compare to other brands of rotors?
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Old Jan 26, 2008 | 01:47 PM
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Stop your research. Here's the answer.

Rotors: buy mb parts dot com $208 a pair
Pads: Parts America (friction master ceramics for $47 a pair)
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Old Jan 26, 2008 | 02:58 PM
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pads you can also get from tirerack.com
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Old Jan 26, 2008 | 06:12 PM
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I posted the part number for the rear Morse pads in a previous post, plus the sku numbers so the Auto Zone guys don't even have to do anything. They make them...I have them!
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Old Jan 26, 2008 | 06:40 PM
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DIY: Change brake rotors and pads for your w203

Visit my website to see photos of the process. Unfortunately it was about to rain so I could not finish taking the pictures of some details:

- How to grease up and place the new pads back into place.
- How to secure the shim onto the brake pad.
- How to secure the brake sensor onto the pad.
- Using the c-clamp to pull pistons out of the way so the caliper will fit back onto the rotor

If anyone has photos of the steps above please upload them to your own site or wherever and reference it from this thread. Thanks!

NOTE: After doing my own research and going through all the brake pad/rotor threads here on mbworld and gathered some important details you'll want to know.

- Buy your rotors at buy mb parts dot com

- If you want ceramic pads, buy them at parts america dot com.

- Torque bolts that secure the caliper to 25 ft lbs.
If this spec is incorrect, please correct me and pm me asap b/c that's what I currently have mine set up at. Thanks!

- Our c230 does not have an electronic SBC to worry about. You do not need to disengage anything like you do for the E class Mercedes. The caliper will NOT crush your fingers with the car off.

- The smart guys at MB specified our cars (Kompressor sports) with two left rotors. The right side one spins the wrong way. They apparently did not contract with Zimmermann to fabricate a mirrored right side rotor. It matters b/c our rotors have a directional vane (this means that the cross drilled pattern is designed to spin a particular direction). If you have two identical rotors with the same pattern, it makes sense that the left and right sides are mirrored. Our cars are not. Apparently some other aftermarket companies fabricated a left and right one. I'd go with those if you can locate them. I think it's EBC that has done it correctly. All this means that if you pick up rotors from the dealer, they will give you two left rotors b/c that's all they have. It will work fine since it's what comes with the car OEM anyway. Another member confirmed that his c32 AMG is the same way.

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Old Jan 26, 2008 | 09:05 PM
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nice DIY, you have one for the rear?
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