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Old Aug 13, 2007 | 07:11 PM
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the bulbs on and side by side from the rear:


a view of the bulbs directly:



Please, Just to verify. in these pics, with them mounted above the plates. which is which. is the Hoens on the left or right. Thanks

maybe im goofy, but just want to clarify
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Old Aug 13, 2007 | 07:16 PM
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Please, Just to verify. in these pics, with them mounted above the plates. which is which. is the Hoens on the left or right. Thanks

maybe im goofy, but just want to clarify
the hoen's are on the left. FYI, the lights are NOT mounted on a w203, but rather they're mounted on an E46 M3.
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Old Aug 13, 2007 | 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Magician
Please, Just to verify. in these pics, with them mounted above the plates. which is which. is the Hoens on the left or right. Thanks

maybe im goofy, but just want to clarify
LED's on the right. You can tell how much more the license plate lights up.
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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 03:42 AM
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Let me get this straight, you don't need resistors for the HOEN bulbs correct?
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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 10:06 AM
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Let me get this straight, you don't need resistors for the HOEN bulbs correct?
Nope I just installed my Hoen bulbs and they look great.
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 08:35 PM
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Ok, so I was excited to get my Hoen bulbs with lightning fast shipping, however, I think im dissapointed.....I took this comparison pic, its not the best, but to me, they look almost the same, yet it looks like my ebay bulbs are still whiter.....I don't know...I'm extremely determined to do LED, I just need to know exactly what size resistor to use....

Hoen on Left...............Ebay on Right
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by LuxuryC240
Ok, so I was excited to get my Hoen bulbs with lightning fast shipping, however, I think im dissapointed.....I took this comparison pic, its not the best, but to me, they look almost the same, yet it looks like my ebay bulbs are still whiter.....I don't know...I'm extremely determined to do LED, I just need to know exactly what size resistor to use....

Hoen on Left...............Ebay on Right
lmfao dan and i have been telling u guys for months!!! the ebay ones are a lot cheaper and identical!
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Old Aug 17, 2007 | 12:49 AM
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lmfao dan and i have been telling u guys for months!!! the ebay ones are a lot cheaper and identical!
you know Kev, you REALLY come off as an annoying know-it-all.

like I've said before, don't talk when you have no clue as to what you're talking about--ESPECIALLY don't try to act like an expert.

the eBay bulbs are GARBAGE compared to the Hoen bulbs. they're a much higher wattage, run hotter and WILL melt your housings. furthermore, they get dull and yellow quickly. the Hoens are not as hot; from what I've seen, they don't dull as quickly or won't dull like the eBay bulbs, and on a visual inspection look like they're MUCH better quality.

you ask why I'm being this critical, which bulbs have you tested? how many cars have you tested them on? hmm... all you have for comparison purposes are OEM and the eBay bulbs, yet you act like some sort of expert.

let's recap my progression:

on the w203:
OEM --> Custom-made LED's with built in resistors by Dion (worked fine for a month and then burnt and failed) --> Second set of LED's now with resistors I had to tap in by Dion (worked fine for 5 minutes and one side flickered) --> OEM --> Autolumination non-LED bulbs (did not work) --> eBay LED bulbs with resistors I tried to tap-in (did not work, one side flickered) --> OEM --> eBay bulbs that Kev is so proud of (they turned yellowish and then one side burnt out and they melted my housing) --> OEM --> Hoen (did not work b/c my housing was damaged --> OEM.

on the M3:
OEM --> eBay LED bulbs (the same ones that didn't work on the Benz, they worked for 3 months and failed) --> jlevi LED bulbs (they worked for 4-5 months and failed) --> Hoen bulbs (they worked perfectly until I took them out) --> jlevi LED bulbs (jlevi replaced it for free under warranty)

so I think it's safe to say that I have A LOT more experience with this topic and modding my w203 and modding cars in general to say that you have absolutely no clue as to what you're talking about and that you shouldn't act like such a smartass all the time.

remember, you've had your car for far less time than I've been trying to get this to work on my w203.
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Old Aug 17, 2007 | 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by nlpamg
you know Kev, you REALLY come off as an annoying know-it-all.

like I've said before, don't talk when you have no clue as to what you're talking about--ESPECIALLY don't try to act like an expert.

the eBay bulbs are GARBAGE compared to the Hoen bulbs. they're a much higher wattage, run hotter and WILL melt your housings. furthermore, they get dull and yellow quickly. the Hoens are not as hot; from what I've seen, they don't dull as quickly or won't dull like the eBay bulbs, and on a visual inspection look like they're MUCH better quality.

you ask why I'm being this critical, which bulbs have you tested? how many cars have you tested them on? hmm... all you have for comparison purposes are OEM and the eBay bulbs, yet you act like some sort of expert.

let's recap my progression:

on the w203:
OEM --> Custom-made LED's with built in resistors by Dion (worked fine for a month and then burnt and failed) --> Second set of LED's now with resistors I had to tap in by Dion (worked fine for 5 minutes and one side flickered) --> OEM --> Autolumination non-LED bulbs (did not work) --> eBay LED bulbs with resistors I tried to tap-in (did not work, one side flickered) --> OEM --> eBay bulbs that Kev is so proud of (they turned yellowish and then one side burnt out and they melted my housing) --> OEM --> Hoen (did not work b/c my housing was damaged --> OEM.

on the M3:
OEM --> eBay LED bulbs (the same ones that didn't work on the Benz, they worked for 3 months and failed) --> jlevi LED bulbs (they worked for 4-5 months and failed) --> Hoen bulbs (they worked perfectly until I took them out) --> jlevi LED bulbs (jlevi replaced it for free under warranty)

so I think it's safe to say that I have A LOT more experience with this topic and modding my w203 and modding cars in general to say that you have absolutely no clue as to what you're talking about and that you shouldn't act like such a smartass all the time.

remember, you've had your car for far less time than I've been trying to get this to work on my w203.
fully understood.
dan hasnt had good experiences with the ebay ones because they keep burning out on him. but...i've had mine in for i'd say 4-5 months...no melting and no yellowing yet. im not saying my bulbs are better than the hoens in any way, maybe i just got lucky.

Maybe I'll buy the HOEN bulbs and do a long-term comparison side-by-side so MAYBE I'll know what I'm talking about next time.
Dan's pictures aren't always of the highest quality so I'll see if the color difference is more visible in person.

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Old Aug 17, 2007 | 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by kevblah
fully understood.
dan hasnt had good experiences with the ebay ones because they keep burning out on him. but...i've had mine in for i'd say 4-5 months...no melting and no yellowing yet. im not saying my bulbs are better than the hoens in any way, maybe i just got lucky.
huh? I didn't say that you said they were better, you're saying that they're identical and yet cheaper--thus implying that they're a better value/deal.

Originally Posted by kevblah
lmfao dan and i have been telling u guys for months!!! the ebay ones are a lot cheaper and identical!
also, the Hoens are what, $12? the eBay's were like what, $7? big whup. Hoen has a name and reputation for quality products and great customer service. $5 extra is WELL worth the piece of mind. AND especially when they don't ruin your light housings.

I'm speaking from experience, don't waste your money on cheap **** like this b/c you'll spend more in the future. please don't give people bad advice like this again (similar to your advice to other people with regards to them getting springs).
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Old Aug 17, 2007 | 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by kevblah
Maybe I'll buy the HOEN bulbs and do a long-term comparison side-by-side so MAYBE I'll know what I'm talking about next time.
Dan's pictures aren't always of the highest quality so I'll see if the color difference is more visible in person.
and you wonder why people "go after you" and call you out on threads? it's because of smart *** responses...

you may think you know something, but that's far far from the truth.

and I'm expecting another smart *** response in 1... 2... 3... b/c you always love to get the final word.
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Old Aug 17, 2007 | 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted by nlpamg
huh? I didn't say that you said they were better, you're saying that they're identical and yet cheaper--thus implying that they're a better value/deal.



also, the Hoens are what, $12? the eBay's were like what, $7? big whup. Hoen has a name and reputation for quality products and great customer service. $5 extra is WELL worth the piece of mind. AND especially when they don't ruin your light housings.

I'm speaking from experience, don't waste your money on cheap **** like this b/c you'll spend more in the future. please don't give people bad advice like this again (similar to your advice to other people with regards to them getting springs).
Got it. Dan told me $22 for the HOENs and I didn't visit the site, so I calculateed a 3:1 price difference cuz I didn't know they were $12.

Not everyone can afford coilovers, so imo springs are a viable alternative. It's understood that your shocks will wear down faster over time, but until then.
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Old Aug 17, 2007 | 01:06 AM
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Originally Posted by nlpamg
and you wonder why people "go after you" and call you out on threads? it's because of smart *** responses...

you may think you know something, but that's far far from the truth.

and I'm expecting another smart *** response in 1... 2... 3... b/c you always love to get the final word.
i wasn't being a smart ***.
i even rephrased it several times in 'Edit Mode' so it wouldnt sound like i was.

im serious about getting the hoen bulbs to do a side by side comparison, i dont know why that might provoke you...

and its 1 in the morning, got nothing else to do but post...
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Old Aug 17, 2007 | 01:06 AM
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Originally Posted by kevblah
Got it. Dan told me $22 for the HOENs and I didn't visit the site, so I calculateed a 3:1 price difference cuz I didn't know they were $12.

Not everyone can afford coilovers, so imo springs are a viable alternative. It's understood that your shocks will wear down faster over time, but until then.
a viable alternative for people that want to spend double on installation and new shocks down the line (which isn't too far away).

you know, when you first joined this board, we were all laughing at you b/c you were 16, didn't have a clue and were listing down mommy and daddy's cars as well. what changed that now you're an expert? nothing. please don't try to act like one.
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Old Aug 17, 2007 | 01:08 AM
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Originally Posted by nlpamg
a viable alternative for people that want to spend double on installation and new shocks down the line (which isn't too far away).

you know, when you first joined this board, we were all laughing at you b/c you were 16, didn't have a clue and were listing down mommy and daddy's cars as well. what changed that now you're an expert? nothing. please don't try to act like one.
i know this isnt the suspension thread, but how exactly do u know when your shocks give out? lol does your car get a lot bouncier?
(i think its time)
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Old Aug 17, 2007 | 01:09 AM
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i know this isnt the suspension thread, but how exactly do u know when your shocks give out? lol does your car get a lot bouncier?
(i think its time)
it's EXACTLY questions like this as to why you shouldn't be giving advice to people. thanks for proving my point.
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Old Aug 24, 2007 | 01:55 AM
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Phil, for your w203 you got hoen fogs recently right (in addition to the yellow fogs on the M3)? could you post or send me a picture of the endurance fogs on? I'm wondering if i should order the fogs in addition to license plate lights. thanks

damn error messages are starting to bug me. they randomly alternate between the left and the right license plate lights. are the bulbs just going bad?
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Old Aug 24, 2007 | 02:02 AM
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Phil, for your w203 you got hoen fogs recently right (in addition to the yellow fogs on the M3)? could you post or send me a picture of the endurance fogs on? I'm wondering if i should order the fogs in addition to license plate lights. thanks

damn error messages are starting to bug me. they randomly alternate between the left and the right license plate lights. are the bulbs just going bad?
I actually didn't get Hoen fogs for the w203. I have 4300k HID fogs for the w203. The yellow fogs were for the M3.

Which bulbs do you have in them right now? If it's the eBay ones, I'd suggest you take them out immediately so you don't risk them melting your assembly...

Here's a shot of the Hoens Endurance bulbs on the M3:
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Old Aug 24, 2007 | 11:01 AM
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ok without gettin in between everyones fighting, i got a question

picked up a bulb replacment from VELOCITY LED's online, bulb was supposed to be the right one for my car(2003 cl500)

after i got it, oh and by the way, for future refrance, it needs 2 bulbs!!! lol, i put the bulb in to the spot were my bulb was burnt, and it didnt light up, i looked and it didnt fit in the way it looks like it should, one side was touching the outer rim and sitting on the glass, the other end of the bulb fit into place like i would expect them both to do


any tips?



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Old Aug 24, 2007 | 01:31 PM
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it's "reference," the topic isn't French. wow, you didn't know there were two bulbs? have you seen the back of your car?

read the post. LED's won't work on an MB unless there is a load resistor, otherwise it'll throw up codes or flicker. plus, it sounds like the bulb you got was too short...
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Old Aug 24, 2007 | 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by nlpamg
it's "reference," the topic isn't French. wow, you didn't know there were two bulbs? have you seen the back of your car?

read the post. LED's won't work on an MB unless there is a load resistor, otherwise it'll throw up codes or flicker. plus, it sounds like the bulb you got was too short...

lol ur funny, ok ok, sorry if i misspeleled suttin, calm it down a notch k.

thanks for answering the question thou, i just ordered the shorter LED bulb from another guy on ebay. hopefully thats the right size. allso will need a resister from radioshack



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Old Aug 24, 2007 | 02:05 PM
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lol ur funny, ok ok, sorry if i misspeleled suttin, calm it down a notch k.

thanks for answering the question thou, i just ordered the shorter LED bulb from another guy on ebay. hopefully thats the right size. allso will need a resister from radioshack



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dude, what's funny are your writing "skillz" and your ability to comprehend things.
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Old Aug 24, 2007 | 02:08 PM
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lol ur funny, ok ok, sorry if i misspeleled suttin, calm it down a notch k.

thanks for answering the question thou, i just ordered the shorter LED bulb from another guy on ebay. hopefully thats the right size. allso will need a resister from radioshack



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I'm confused...why are you posting in this thread if your car is a CL 500. Are the license bulbs the same for all models?
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Old Aug 24, 2007 | 02:10 PM
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I'm confused...why are you posting in this thread if your car is a CL 500. Are the license bulbs the same for all models?
look at the kid's post history, he's been posting all over the place in completely different forums. he probably thinks that the C-Coupe's chassis code CL203 means that this forum probably encompasses the CL's as well.
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Old Aug 24, 2007 | 06:47 PM
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lol ur funny, ok ok, sorry if i misspeleled suttin, calm it down a notch k.

thanks for answering the question thou, i just ordered the shorter LED bulb from another guy on ebay. hopefully thats the right size. allso will need a resister from radioshack



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