Hyper-White & LED License Plate Lights thread

Hoen on Left...............Ebay on Right
Hoen on Left...............Ebay on Right


like I've said before, don't talk when you have no clue as to what you're talking about--ESPECIALLY don't try to act like an expert.
the eBay bulbs are GARBAGE compared to the Hoen bulbs. they're a much higher wattage, run hotter and WILL melt your housings. furthermore, they get dull and yellow quickly. the Hoens are not as hot; from what I've seen, they don't dull as quickly or won't dull like the eBay bulbs, and on a visual inspection look like they're MUCH better quality.
you ask why I'm being this critical, which bulbs have you tested? how many cars have you tested them on? hmm... all you have for comparison purposes are OEM and the eBay bulbs, yet you act like some sort of expert.
let's recap my progression:
on the w203:
OEM --> Custom-made LED's with built in resistors by Dion (worked fine for a month and then burnt and failed) --> Second set of LED's now with resistors I had to tap in by Dion (worked fine for 5 minutes and one side flickered) --> OEM --> Autolumination non-LED bulbs (did not work) --> eBay LED bulbs with resistors I tried to tap-in (did not work, one side flickered) --> OEM --> eBay bulbs that Kev is so proud of (they turned yellowish and then one side burnt out and they melted my housing) --> OEM --> Hoen (did not work b/c my housing was damaged --> OEM.
on the M3:
OEM --> eBay LED bulbs (the same ones that didn't work on the Benz, they worked for 3 months and failed) --> jlevi LED bulbs (they worked for 4-5 months and failed) --> Hoen bulbs (they worked perfectly until I took them out) --> jlevi LED bulbs (jlevi replaced it for free under warranty)
so I think it's safe to say that I have A LOT more experience with this topic and modding my w203 and modding cars in general to say that you have absolutely no clue as to what you're talking about and that you shouldn't act like such a smartass all the time.
remember, you've had your car for far less time than I've been trying to get this to work on my w203.
The Best of Mercedes & AMG
like I've said before, don't talk when you have no clue as to what you're talking about--ESPECIALLY don't try to act like an expert.
the eBay bulbs are GARBAGE compared to the Hoen bulbs. they're a much higher wattage, run hotter and WILL melt your housings. furthermore, they get dull and yellow quickly. the Hoens are not as hot; from what I've seen, they don't dull as quickly or won't dull like the eBay bulbs, and on a visual inspection look like they're MUCH better quality.
you ask why I'm being this critical, which bulbs have you tested? how many cars have you tested them on? hmm... all you have for comparison purposes are OEM and the eBay bulbs, yet you act like some sort of expert.
let's recap my progression:
on the w203:
OEM --> Custom-made LED's with built in resistors by Dion (worked fine for a month and then burnt and failed) --> Second set of LED's now with resistors I had to tap in by Dion (worked fine for 5 minutes and one side flickered) --> OEM --> Autolumination non-LED bulbs (did not work) --> eBay LED bulbs with resistors I tried to tap-in (did not work, one side flickered) --> OEM --> eBay bulbs that Kev is so proud of (they turned yellowish and then one side burnt out and they melted my housing) --> OEM --> Hoen (did not work b/c my housing was damaged --> OEM.
on the M3:
OEM --> eBay LED bulbs (the same ones that didn't work on the Benz, they worked for 3 months and failed) --> jlevi LED bulbs (they worked for 4-5 months and failed) --> Hoen bulbs (they worked perfectly until I took them out) --> jlevi LED bulbs (jlevi replaced it for free under warranty)
so I think it's safe to say that I have A LOT more experience with this topic and modding my w203 and modding cars in general to say that you have absolutely no clue as to what you're talking about and that you shouldn't act like such a smartass all the time.
remember, you've had your car for far less time than I've been trying to get this to work on my w203.
dan hasnt had good experiences with the ebay ones because they keep burning out on him. but...i've had mine in for i'd say 4-5 months...no melting and no yellowing yet. im not saying my bulbs are better than the hoens in any way, maybe i just got lucky.
Maybe I'll buy the HOEN bulbs and do a long-term comparison side-by-side so MAYBE I'll know what I'm talking about next time.
Dan's pictures aren't always of the highest quality so I'll see if the color difference is more visible in person.
Last edited by kevblah; Aug 17, 2007 at 12:59 AM.

dan hasnt had good experiences with the ebay ones because they keep burning out on him. but...i've had mine in for i'd say 4-5 months...no melting and no yellowing yet. im not saying my bulbs are better than the hoens in any way, maybe i just got lucky.
I'm speaking from experience, don't waste your money on cheap **** like this b/c you'll spend more in the future. please don't give people bad advice like this again (similar to your advice to other people with regards to them getting springs).

you may think you know something, but that's far far from the truth.
and I'm expecting another smart *** response in 1... 2... 3... b/c you always love to get the final word.
also, the Hoens are what, $12? the eBay's were like what, $7? big whup. Hoen has a name and reputation for quality products and great customer service. $5 extra is WELL worth the piece of mind. AND especially when they don't ruin your light housings.
I'm speaking from experience, don't waste your money on cheap **** like this b/c you'll spend more in the future. please don't give people bad advice like this again (similar to your advice to other people with regards to them getting springs).
Not everyone can afford coilovers, so imo springs are a viable alternative. It's understood that your shocks will wear down faster over time, but until then.
you may think you know something, but that's far far from the truth.
and I'm expecting another smart *** response in 1... 2... 3... b/c you always love to get the final word.
i even rephrased it several times in 'Edit Mode' so it wouldnt sound like i was.
im serious about getting the hoen bulbs to do a side by side comparison, i dont know why that might provoke you...
and its 1 in the morning, got nothing else to do but post...

Not everyone can afford coilovers, so imo springs are a viable alternative. It's understood that your shocks will wear down faster over time, but until then.
you know, when you first joined this board, we were all laughing at you b/c you were 16, didn't have a clue and were listing down mommy and daddy's cars as well. what changed that now you're an expert? nothing. please don't try to act like one.
you know, when you first joined this board, we were all laughing at you b/c you were 16, didn't have a clue and were listing down mommy and daddy's cars as well. what changed that now you're an expert? nothing. please don't try to act like one.
(i think its time)

damn error messages are starting to bug me. they randomly alternate between the left and the right license plate lights. are the bulbs just going bad?

damn error messages are starting to bug me. they randomly alternate between the left and the right license plate lights. are the bulbs just going bad?

Which bulbs do you have in them right now? If it's the eBay ones, I'd suggest you take them out immediately so you don't risk them melting your assembly...
Here's a shot of the Hoens Endurance bulbs on the M3:
picked up a bulb replacment from VELOCITY LED's online, bulb was supposed to be the right one for my car(2003 cl500)
after i got it, oh and by the way, for future refrance, it needs 2 bulbs!!! lol, i put the bulb in to the spot were my bulb was burnt, and it didnt light up, i looked and it didnt fit in the way it looks like it should, one side was touching the outer rim and sitting on the glass, the other end of the bulb fit into place like i would expect them both to do
any tips?
ALi

read the post. LED's won't work on an MB unless there is a load resistor, otherwise it'll throw up codes or flicker. plus, it sounds like the bulb you got was too short...
read the post. LED's won't work on an MB unless there is a load resistor, otherwise it'll throw up codes or flicker. plus, it sounds like the bulb you got was too short...
lol ur funny, ok ok, sorry if i misspeleled suttin, calm it down a notch k.
thanks for answering the question thou, i just ordered the shorter LED bulb from another guy on ebay. hopefully thats the right size. allso will need a resister from radioshack
ALi






