jvasq

255 hp vs 218 (218 = My C320 / 255 = Gf's bro's Nissan Maxima). It seem's that the Maxima is faster; any spec's guys, my girlfriend's brother has one and we tend to race. He had a head start but I figured hey I could catch up to him rather easily I am in a MB. Little to my surprise did he absolutely keep the lead. We were driving from light to light but still....

I was a bit disapointed I mean I do have a C320... but w/e am I expecting too much? I mean... didn't someone before race a bmw 325i and have somewhat of a success. Aren't Maxima's really heavy and if so then wouldn't that make my car faster?

TruTaing

2003 nissan maxima curb weight: 3180 lbs - fwd
unspecified year c320 weight: 3450 - rwd

some cars are big, but still deceptively light. throw in more hp and chances are he can beat ya in a straight line.....

-j0hn

powa

not to forget the japanese car are calculated HP based on engine cam, while the germany car are calculated on the wheels

e1000

that's news to me. Horsepower ratings are standardized and while there are SOME variation due to some makers being more conservative than others, they should both be measuring horsepower at the crank.

jvasq

ah man, so there's no chance huh... that's disapointing that a maxima can.. whatever I guess. I wonder how much HP id have to gain in-order to match or surpass his speed.

SeaCoupe

Try losing some weight in the car. It also hurts if you have big after market wheels.

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pshek

German cars are not quoted as rwhp. Carmakers are usually quoting bhp figures. For example, the C320 coupe is rated at 215-220 bhp at the crank. Dynos show a 320 making about 180 rwhp.

drexappeal

I was about to say. I was wondering what portion of the world this was in.

amdeutsch

Canada I presume based on you know what.


For those that really want to know the power of a C320,

KILL

anonymouse

1. You expected to reel him in cause you were in a MB? Methinks you expected too much

2. Horsepower-wise a 325i a far cry from a maxima. The e46 bimmer makes about 185 hp and the new one makes 215. But a 255 hp maxima?


Puff puff give...

Tangerine

did you buy your benz for speed? cuz i can think of a few cars on top of my head that can outrace a maxima...

BabyBenz6spd

I used to own a 2k2 Maxima 6spd, C320 has no chance on straightline acceleration, however all hope is not lost.

Here is how you can win, on a rainy day race the Maxima from a stop, if you launch correctly (ESP on/off doesn't matter) you will have more traction than the Maxima and you will win. Assuming Maxima still has the stock crappy Potenza RE92 tires, it will not grib the road at all, you'll just see wheels spinning and the car not moving forward. LOL

Maxima is a pretty fast sedan, I really like it. I know because we use to own a 97 Max an 2k2 Max in our family.

advans

thats akward, I have a 2003 C320, before I did anymods, I raced my friends 05 3.5L maxima with a Stillen Exhaust. I lead, I won.

anychance ur gf's brothers maxima is stick, kuz that makes a really huge diff.

Outland

All HP and Torque figures are from testing on an engine dyno. The Japanese and Koreans used to exploit loopholes and grey areas in the testing procedure...what octane fuel was run, what accessories were hooked up, the temp of the test enviroment, exhaust backpressure, etc... This could give the mfr a rating that was considerably higher than what the engine made when installed in the car. The difference could be as much as 10% of the rated output. IIRC, Honda/acura and Toyota took the biggest pownding when the revised SAE guildlines were published last year closed the loopholes. The domestic and Euro companies tended to be more conservative with published numbers.

anonymouse

You beat an 05 Max with a stock 320?



Dude did not know how to drive his car. Full stop.

The Max was on my shortlist for new cars - that friggin car can pull. But if you don't launch right, all you will do is spin tires to 40 mph or so.

diamondblak05

yea right!

jvasq

ah man so it's all in the start. well it's disapointing but I can live with it; I'm not sure if he uses stick but bro you beat a 05 max 3.5L I don't know about that my gf's bro's maxima is a 02 at best and I had trouble from light to light; taken that he did have a good lead from the start. He did have stock tires; but it's her bro, I wouldn't want anything to happen to the poor guy haha. Were all going to chill this weekend the Sept 2nd I'll keep you guys posted because obviously round 2 is going to happen .

SeaCoupe

Advan's, I know you have been around a bit, but I was wondering the same thing. Seemed like a stretch or something. Honestly, I think the Maxima you beat might have been in a poor state of tune. i.e. MAS, or ignition issues. The 320 isn't that strong of a performer.

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jvasq

Ed; so you're saying even with all you'r mod's; that you still won't be able to beat an 02 Maxima SE Stock?

SeaCoupe

Really the only engine mods I have are the pulley and a K&N. I think that my lightweight AMG wheels are of help, but very-very little. (rotational mass decrease as compared to heavier 18 or 19" rims)

Honestly, I have never run against a Maxima. I am dating a girl who has the 3.5 Altima. is this is the same engine? I could drive her car and tell you how I think I will fare.

Are you launching without ESP? Making sure you are in S mode? While it appears that your 3.2 should fair well, that 3.2 is a torque motor, not a hp motor. He has almost 10% in engine size on you. You need to give us more to go on here.

E

jvasq

I am launching without ESP, dry concrete, S mode has been on since summer started. Stock EVERYTHING. Yea he does have a 10% gain over me.

e1000

yes, the Altima 3.5 has the same VQ35DE as the Maxima, and due to it's lighter weight, I believe the Altima is a hair faster than the Maxima.

Sorry guys, a Maxima will slaughter a C320

Remember, this is the same exact engine that is in the 350Z, G35, M35, and almost ever other car Nissan makes. There are different levels of tune, but for the most part, it's a very nice V6, much better than the old 3.2L engine in the C320. The only thing the C320 has over the Maxima in this case is RWD, but even then once he gets going it should be all over.

Harry Madan

It doesn’t take an genius to make a car go fast in a straight line heck even FORD can do that lets see where that car is around the first corner, I bet any Benz can corner better then a Nissan or Ford for that matter. Your car is not just made to go in a straight line its good for all sides of the mark, when you are racing some idiot around a corner he would be working hard to keep his car on the road you can be enjoying a coffee changing your CD and still being able to keep your car on the road.

BabyBenz6spd

I agree with this statment 100% VQ35DE is one awsome motor

anonymouse

You kinda sound like a guy with a small ***** who always wants to point out "it's not the size of teh ship but the motion in the ocean". Give credit where credit is due. Nissan makes a hellova V6.