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W203/CL203 Aftermarket Exhaust Thread - All you want to know

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Old 10-15-2002, 04:48 PM
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ah, thanks, is there a reason why they're not put on all sportier cars?
Old 10-15-2002, 09:17 PM
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Originally posted by Buellwinkle
OK, how about a tunable exhaust like the discs in the Supertrapp exhaust. At least you can get the sound you want without swapping mufflers.
LOL! Buellwinkle, I had a Supertrapp on a Susuki FA50 back in 81! Worked for me then, but now? Do they even exist these days?
Old 10-15-2002, 09:20 PM
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Sure, they make them for all sorts of bikes. They need to make one for cars.
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Originally posted by dswildfire
ah, thanks, is there a reason why they're not put on all sportier cars?
Those velocity stacks take up a lot of space and most people don't want them sticking out of the hood or the large scoop to cover them. Also, they are of no use on cars with forced induction. On modern street cars, variable valve systems and variable intake manifolds serve the same purpose and more. They are still used on race cars, especially those with mechanical fuel injection
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Originally posted by Lynn
Those velocity stacks take up a lot of space and most people don't want them sticking out of the hood or the large scoop to cover them. Also, they are of no use on cars with forced induction. On modern street cars, variable valve systems and variable intake manifolds serve the same purpose and more. They are still used on race cars, especially those with mechanical fuel injection
what about those header u see under the cover of the M5's V8? they look like those velocity stack except bented
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I haven't seen under the hood of an M5, but I see that it has 8 throttle bodies. It is very possible that they are using velocity stacks in addition to the double VANOS system. I have seen many examples of curved velocity stacks.

I should have been a little clearer in my previous post. The staggered length of the velocity stacks on the Can-Am serve to optimize the performance of each cylinder in a particular portion of the rev range. The point of this is to flatten the torque curve of the engine. Variable valve timing will do the same thing. If a car has both, the velocity stacks are to straighten and smooth the air flow into the manifold runners.

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Originally posted by Lynn
I haven't seen under the hood of an M5, but I see that it has 8 throttle bodies. It is very possible that they are using velocity stacks in addition to the double VANOS system. I have seen many examples of curved velocity stacks.

I should have been a little clearer in my previous post. The staggered length of the velocity stacks on the Can-Am serve to optimize the performance of each cylinder in a particular portion of the rev range. The point of this is to flatten the torque curve of the engine. Variable valve timing will do the same thing. If a car has both, the velocity stacks at to straighten and smooth the air flow into the manifold runners.
thanks...that clears it up.

btw u can see the M5's V8 picture in the new issue of the C&D mag
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FrankW, that M5 is the new dinan M5 in C&D. i think somehwere in there it says he added velocity stacks to up the power. i just thought it was part of the individual throttle bodies as well.
Old 10-16-2002, 09:31 AM
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Originally posted by wizkid
Our exhaust is stainless???? WOW! Freekn' MB is the stuff.

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You'd be hard pressed to find an OEM in the US these days that doesn't use "stainless steel"... though it's typically 409 stainless which can't be polished and will discolor/corrode.

The polished stainless is 300 series. Not used nearly as much except for tips.
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Originally posted by dswildfire
FrankW, that M5 is the new dinan M5 in C&D. i think somehwere in there it says he added velocity stacks to up the power. i just thought it was part of the individual throttle bodies as well.
yes, i know it's a Dinan. Dinan modify the intake-runners in the picture u see. The stock M5 have those black intake runners i think( don't know what it's made off). oh well, i don't know a lot about engines.
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Remus Or Supersprint Exhaust ?

I am going to change exhaust for my C320, but I am a lil confuse which one is better.. hows the sounds for each ? is supersprint loud? I know with remus you can't really feel much diffriend on the sound part and hmm please let me know
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Go for Eisenmann Race performance exhaust, the sound is awesom, really deep and loud.. AMG is also good..

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Old 11-02-2002, 04:22 AM
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hmm I don't want something thats too loud tho...
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I used Remus in my previous Audi A4 V6, the sound was very nice, I like it very much...I vote for Remus
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i have the eisenmann.... sounds great, nice deep sound, and i feel the difference in power... plus it looks great!
www.eisenhaus.com
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okay. im really picky with sounds. i don't want my car to be heard from a mile away. i just want to hear some power at the top end of the range. ie. 3000 rpm+. so my question is: where can i get some sample sounds so that a comparison test can be made. i heard the remus and i sounds perfect. any suggestions?
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any suggestions?
yes get it!
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Which exhaust will fit with lorinser rear add on lip?

Hello all I am planing to get full lorinser body kit later but I want to do my exhaust now, (And I don't like the look of lorinser exhaust) anyone know which exhaust will fit with lorinser body kit? AMG, Supersprint, Remus ? thx all

Thx alot =)
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Talking Finally Got My Kleemann Exhaust!

Finally came in after being delayed for two months by the longeshoremen strike. Got it installed up at MB Autowerks north of Atlanta, they did a great job and it looks great. Here are a couple of pics.
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looks good, but doesnt it kinda look stock? how much HP are you gaining and how does it sound?
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I dont know how much hp I'm gaining, but I'm guessing it would not be more than 2 or 3. My butt dyno couldnt feel any difference. It sounds good, has a deep note at low rpm, a stronger sound at midrange, but doesnt change the stock note much at high rpm. Overall I'm very satisfied!

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My butt dyno couldnt feel any difference (but then again I just filled up).
In the spirit of trying to be "nice," I will let that quote go without comment!
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In the spirit of trying to be "nice," I will let that quote go without comment!
A tank of gas makes a difference, in case you hadn't noticed. A full tank could add about 70 pounds the weight of the car, which would probably cancel out a small gain of a few horsepower.
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I like the Kleeman names on the ends.

What's the Coupe's stock exhaust anyway? Is it a straight through design or does it have muffling resonators?


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