here's pics of h&r springs with stock pads and shocks...





i have 15MM spacers as well... a must



nice improvement to the look from the rear... wider stance



and the side



i've had them for about 3 months... and it still rides well...
it settled a lil lower since that time....
i suggest an alignment after it settles

 

It appears as though the rear is splayed out like / \. Will that affect tire wear a lot? Also how is the ride? handling? speed bumps?

 

the / \ is not that dramatic.. it may affect the tread wear slightly...

as far as the ride.. i feel it's a bit harsher... but the sacrafice for improved handling is worth it.... i drove the day after the install from ny to va beach, and the ride was not bad at all.... that's with a trunk full of luggage and 3 other passengers....

so far the ride is holding up.... i was gonna wait and get shocks installed with the springs... but i was tired of looking at the wheel gap...

speed bumps are not a problem.... the car is high enough to clear them.... i've had and been in cars that had this problem, but you won't see that with the h&r's.... just watch out for some of those parking dividers and high sidewalks.... the front may scratch those

the spacers seem to have improved the handling as well.... i get less tire screeching.... the continentals love to yell

 

Looks good, made an appointment to have the eibachs done (slightly less drop and heard they ride better) and I already have the spacers. The spacers give it a more aggresive stance.

 

look in the pic thread my car with the H&Rs is about the same height as C230 Jeffs with Eibachs.

I have heard alot about spacers but i am still not sure what they are, why i would need them, and what they do.

can u please tell me.

thanks

 

I'm not so much concerned about the front drop as that's like 1/10th" difference but the rear drop on H&R's is 30% more.

I'll try to explain spacers to you. Normally when people with sporty cars do aftermarket wheels they do a staggered setup where the rear wheels are about an 1" wider than the front. This gives it a more aggresive sportier look. Then there are the cheapskates like me that want that staggered look but for cheap. That's where the spacers come in, stick them on the rear wheels and walla, the staggered look. Also the rear wheels on the coupe look kinda tucked in too far, a 1/2" push outwards changes the look more than you think. Really looks good on a C7. Don't forget to order longer bolts with the spacer if you do it.

 

I always did understand that the drop with the Eibachs are alot less than the H&Rs till i saw the pic of JeffC230s car. look at it again. i think his rear may be lower than mine and i have #1 spring pads!!!!

back to the spacers. i think i like the idea. who makes them for the coupe? how much are they about? and i am guessing they are easy to install right? just take off the rim and put them on? or is there anything else involved.

Does it affect the ride at? and will that also affect the camber as well?

thanks

 

H&R makes very nice spacers and it's about $70 and the bolts are about $30 so count on $100. Autoclass.net sells them in Florida, ask for Gaston. I have 10mm but they come in 5mm and 15mm also. I don't notice any difference in ride, noise, comfort, handling or camber, it's just appearance for me. To install you take the wheel off, line up the holes, tap it in place and put the wheel back on. Look at the pics above of Madryan's car, he's got 15mm spacers.


I looked at the two cars and I think Jeff having 18" wheels gives the appearance that it's lower but I don't know. Have you measured your car at any point like at the top of each wheel arch? You can compare that to Jeff's measurement and see.

 

do u think if i went with the 15mm it would rub because its tucking in the rear a little? i saw on there site they also have 20mm would that look stuipid?



i will measure the gap tomarrow although it may be hard to measure the back since there is no wheel gap at all.

 

HOw much is the cup kit? i assume you really recomend the H&R kit...im still confused in what to get.

 

I think the H&R cup kit is about $600-700.

Correct me if I am wrong....if you lower the car 1.5inches or lower - you will create a more "Negative" camber? that is...wheels look like this from behind / \ . With this configuration...you will definitely have better cornering and slalom speeds because the wheels will be flatter in turns. However, you will have greater inner tire wear. That is why camber kit topic is always an issue - to correct for this change in camber or not.

I am still deciding what direction to go...I think I will go with the Kleemann set-up (springs and damper kit) or the Renntech spring/damper kit. Unless something else excites me.

 

There are about 25.4mm in an inch. So a 15mm spacer is about 9/16" and a 10mm is about 3/8" thick. It's not a dramatic increase but looks good. Like I said look at the pictures a few replies back, looks good with the 15mm and H&R, 10mm looks good to.

 

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OK, since I don't have a handy dandy conversion table handy,
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an easy way to calculate inches from mm is: .039 inch is about 1 mm, so whenever you want to convert in into inches just remember .039

30mm x .039=1.17" (aprox).


Question: regarding Eibach spring, people on this forum mentions that they are avail at Tirerack. But why does the "notes" section states "springs in development", This is also what is stated at Eibach.

2003 C320

 

looking at the pics i dont see to much of a difference with the spacers. i think i still may get the 15mm though. maybe i will notice it in person more.

 

So sounds like the Eichbacks are the way to go.
Do they come with the pads to adjust the height?

Which pads should I use?
I want the front lower, but the back seems OK....shouldn;t need much.

And where do I buy the springs?
Best price? What should I expect to pay?
Any place in Nor Cal anyone coiuld recommend?

Is it a fairly easy thing to do assuming ylu can get a hold of a spring compressor?
I've changed struts on other cars before.

Lastly, what are "coil overs"?

Like extra springs over the regular ones?
Huh? Who would want that on a passenger car?

 

I found a place reffered by someone on the forum for $330 for the Eibach's installed while you wait in Alahambra.

www.d2.la

 

Buell,
who's got the ASP pulley in stock, and can install it?
And how much $$ is the install?

 

there is a big difference with the spacers..... if you look at your car now, you will see that the wheels are tucked in the fender a bit....

that bothered me, so i got the 15mm spacers... i thought they were gonna rub, and the guy at autoclass.net thought they were gonna rub, but they don't.... even with 4 passengers and nyc's rough streets... now as you can see in the last pic, the wheels are flush with the body...


if you get 20 mm, they might rub.... i'm happy with the 15mm

 

20mm fits just fine

 

The ASP pulleys are made to order so they take about 4 weeks. You can certainly install it as most, if not all that have it have done it themselves. Takes about an hour but there are some exceptions as skill vary. Detailed instuctions are on the forum somewhere.


Call Lee at ASPRacing.com at 1-877-928-8678 if you want to order one.

 

So I'm leaning toward Eibach.
Isn't there someone out here that wants my business?
Where the hell do I get the damn things, somewhere between San Jose and Monterey?

Everybody here seems to be from So Cal, but then they did do the show in Cupt., not too far either.
Who sponsored that?
Someone in the area?
WHO!?

 

that looks good.

Only it does not look like any of u guys have #1 spring pads on the rear. I do and the rear is tucking, so thats why i am not sure if i bring out the rear wheels will it hit the tops of the fenders?

 

No, I don't have #1 pads, but that doesn't make any difference other than the amount of suspension travel before any rubbing would occur. On my car with #4 pads, and a few hundred pounds loaded in the back, I didn't get any rubbing even on rough roads.

 

I think mine will come pretty close to rubbing because now they are tucked in the wheel well and just but moving it out i dont see how it cant rub. But the 20mm look good, i will eaither get those or the 15mm. maybe i could try the 20mm and if it rubs to see if i can return them for the 15mm.