Another anti-sway\anti-roll bar thread...
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From: Woodinville, WA
C320 Sport
Another anti-sway\anti-roll bar thread...
I am looking to purchase an anti-roll kit in the near future and want to see what the mbworld users have and their experiences with different brands. Also, if anyone can confirm\add to the below information...
Kleemann\Eibach: 24/22 - $475\$373
Evosports: 24/19 - $549
Brabus: ?\? - $625
AMG: ?\? - $300
RennTech: ?\? - $900
Carlsson: ?\? - ?
Lorinser: ?\? - ?
Thanks.
Kleemann\Eibach: 24/22 - $475\$373
Evosports: 24/19 - $549
Brabus: ?\? - $625
AMG: ?\? - $300
RennTech: ?\? - $900
Carlsson: ?\? - ?
Lorinser: ?\? - ?
Thanks.
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From: Vancouver, WA
2001 C240 / 6-speed
I can confirm that the list price for the AMG C32 bars is $300. If you go to a discount dealer like Caliber, it would probably be in the range of $240.
I love my C32 bars. They have a significant bias to rear stiffness (in other words, the front bar is a little stiffer than stock, the rear is a gigantic increase) and they work very well with stock, non-sport springs and shocks on my 2001 C240
I love my C32 bars. They have a significant bias to rear stiffness (in other words, the front bar is a little stiffer than stock, the rear is a gigantic increase) and they work very well with stock, non-sport springs and shocks on my 2001 C240
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C230k Coupe
well I have a coupe with eibach, and i like them, my other choice would be the evosport sway bars, i would never pay 900 for renntech, but thats just my opinion, i dont doubt that they are exelent but if I could spend that much $$ I woul dhave bought a slk32
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2001 C240 / 6-speed
The AMG bars are available at your local MB dealer's parts counter. I will post part numbers if you wish (it will take some time to find them....I'll start).
The stats on the bars are:
C240 C32 % Change
Front 20mm 22mm 146.41
Rear 13mm 17mm 292.43
When considering new bars remember two things:
1. The stiffness of the bar increases with the FOURTH POWER of the diamter difference!!!!!
2. Keep an eye on the difference in front/rear stiffness bias of the new bar set compared to stock (as you can see above, the C32 bars have a strong bias to rear stiffness, which decreases understeer & increases oversteer).
The stats on the bars are:
C240 C32 % Change
Front 20mm 22mm 146.41
Rear 13mm 17mm 292.43
When considering new bars remember two things:
1. The stiffness of the bar increases with the FOURTH POWER of the diamter difference!!!!!
2. Keep an eye on the difference in front/rear stiffness bias of the new bar set compared to stock (as you can see above, the C32 bars have a strong bias to rear stiffness, which decreases understeer & increases oversteer).
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2001 C240 / 6-speed
Sorry for the formatting of the stats on the C32 bars above. It looked OK when I hit 'submit' 
. Hopefully, you can figure it out.
I installed the bars myself. The front took about an hour, the rear was more like a half hour. Nothing too tricky.
Here are the part numbers (I found them faster than I thought I would!):
FRONT ASSEMBLY:
203-323-31-65 - Bar-front - $70.30
203-323-16-85 - Rubber mount (bushing) - $4.40 (2)
203-323-11-40 - Bracket - $11.50
203-323-12-40 - Bracket - $11.50
203-323-21-89 - Rod - $47.18 (2)
913023-012002 - Nut - $2.40 (4)
002-990-39-22 - Screw - $1.25 (4)
REAR ASSEMBLY:
203-326-00-81 - Rubber mount (bushing) - $7.60 (2)
203-326-15-65 - Bar-rear - $74.93
. Hopefully, you can figure it out.I installed the bars myself. The front took about an hour, the rear was more like a half hour. Nothing too tricky.
Here are the part numbers (I found them faster than I thought I would!):
FRONT ASSEMBLY:
203-323-31-65 - Bar-front - $70.30
203-323-16-85 - Rubber mount (bushing) - $4.40 (2)
203-323-11-40 - Bracket - $11.50
203-323-12-40 - Bracket - $11.50
203-323-21-89 - Rod - $47.18 (2)
913023-012002 - Nut - $2.40 (4)
002-990-39-22 - Screw - $1.25 (4)
REAR ASSEMBLY:
203-326-00-81 - Rubber mount (bushing) - $7.60 (2)
203-326-15-65 - Bar-rear - $74.93
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2002 C240 6 spd manual
patronus - good information!
What else would need to be changed to make a C240 have the same suspension/handling characteristics as a C32?
I assume the C32 has a bias towards tighter handling, whereas my C240 has a bias towards a luxurious ride - is this correct?
What else would need to be changed to make a C240 have the same suspension/handling characteristics as a C32?
I assume the C32 has a bias towards tighter handling, whereas my C240 has a bias towards a luxurious ride - is this correct?
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'02 C230K Coupe
Originally posted by TXTiger
What else would need to be changed to make a C240 have the same suspension/handling characteristics as a C32?
I assume the C32 has a bias towards tighter handling, whereas my C240 has a bias towards a luxurious ride - is this correct?
What else would need to be changed to make a C240 have the same suspension/handling characteristics as a C32?
I assume the C32 has a bias towards tighter handling, whereas my C240 has a bias towards a luxurious ride - is this correct?
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2001 C240 / 6-speed
I am certain that C32 springs and shocks are different than non-AMG. However you can do better with aftermarket parts for less money. First of all, the springs offer higher spring rate, but almost no lowering (because of stupid US bumper and headlight height requirements). Second, the shocks are not adjustable.
That is why I have Eibach springs and Koni shocks on order for my C240.
I have a hunch that the suspension bushings in C32's are stiffer, but no evidence to prove it.
That is why I have Eibach springs and Koni shocks on order for my C240.
I have a hunch that the suspension bushings in C32's are stiffer, but no evidence to prove it.
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If you are looking to make your car exactly like the C32, definitely go out and buy the same suspension. However, you should remember that many C32 owners are modifying their suspension because it still isn't exactly what a performance car should be. I would recommend aftermarket sway bars over the C32 sway bars for this reason. They will cost you more money, but you will be getting more out of them.
FYI: Our sale on the adjustable sway bars and underdrive pulleys ends this month. Both will be an additional $100 more in October.
Thanks
Ben
FYI: Our sale on the adjustable sway bars and underdrive pulleys ends this month. Both will be an additional $100 more in October.
Thanks
Ben
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From: Westwood, NJ
2004 Civic Si. FWD for the Win!
Since they've been out a while, has anyone ordered the Evosport swaybars?
If so, any feedback?
I'm still on the fence on this one; the extra adjustability would be nice, but don't know if I'd ever have a reason to adjust them (of course, you do get more starting points).
We are getting close to the time when Eibachs will be hitting our shores, though. Any thoughts?
If so, any feedback?
I'm still on the fence on this one; the extra adjustability would be nice, but don't know if I'd ever have a reason to adjust them (of course, you do get more starting points).
We are getting close to the time when Eibachs will be hitting our shores, though. Any thoughts?
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2004 Civic Si. FWD for the Win!
Ben, I've done a search, and can't see a pic of your sways, and I don't think that they're on your site yet.
Can you post a couple pics of the final product? TIA.
Can you post a couple pics of the final product? TIA.
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