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Old 02-13-2007, 01:22 AM
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w203 vs. e46 bix comparison, think there's a difference?
Alright, this thread https://mbworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=181563, tried to highlight some differences between our projectors and the BMW projectors saying that the BMW projectors were better.

I spoke with some e46 owners this weekend and they said that the MB projectors were better.

So, having both, I decided to line them up tonight and see which one was best:

(I'm annoyed by the new thumbnail feature here so I'm using my own hosting.)

Lights off, just the projectors. It "appears" that the e46 projector is somewhat clearer and more reflective:


The cars together with the flash on:


No flash:


Side by side with flash:


Side by side no flash:


Light pattern on garage door:


Different angle light pattern:


Notice any differences? Any one better than the other? There are some slight differences but not enough to put one on top of the other.
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six of these, half a dozen of another. If both have the same output in kelvins and watts.... Unless one might have some kind of amplification in the lens which I can't see. In some pics one car appears have brighter lights possibly because of the camera angle (not that I'm dissin the photographer ) but in my opinion:
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little to no differences in lighting between the two
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doesnt the m3 headlights turn a couple of degrees the direction the car is going?
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doesnt the m3 headlights turn a couple of degrees the direction the car is going?
no, the m3 never got that. it was only in the final year e46 (except m3).
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hardly any difference, m3's beam looks more crisp or is it just me:S .. good observation though
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i can't belive this. Do i have to say again that both the E46 3-Series and the US Spec OEM C-Class Sedan use the EXACT SAME Bosch projectors??????? I am pretty sure they use the EXACT SAME 4300k Philips bulbs as well.

the Bosch Bi-Xenon Projectors are also used in the SL Class as well.
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phil stop showing off your m3!!! psh!
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Nice picture of the cars facing the garage, they both look so smooooooth...
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nice post, let me get a chance and take some pic with my sister's BMW and my MB some time this week, can't do it tonight cuz it's darn cold out there today (-20 degree celcius)
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opps i totally forgotten, i'll have to fix my bi-xenon headlight ballast first before i can do the test =P
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hardly any difference, m3's beam looks more crisp or is it just me:S .. good observation though
It's just you...LOL. I think they look almost identical. Beam pattern is similar. Cut-off line is the same. Light consistency is the same.

Wow, thanks for posting this up, Phil.
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i'd be **** if it's only me, it's really obvious that my light shines on the ground is weaker than my sister's BMW (not until i turn on HID fog). I'll see how the new ballast goes, if the new ballast fix the problem, i know what went wrong, but i doubt it though
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Originally Posted by e1000
i can't belive this. Do i have to say again that both the E46 3-Series and the US Spec OEM C-Class Sedan use the EXACT SAME Bosch projectors??????? I am pretty sure they use the EXACT SAME 4300k Philips bulbs as well.

the Bosch Bi-Xenon Projectors are also used in the SL Class as well.
haha, sorry E, I just had to do it. you know how people on the board are, no pics = no proof. I believe you though, although I'm pretty sure my w203 uses Osram bulbs (b/c I saw them put them in at the dealership).

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phil stop showing off your m3!!! psh!
it was for purely scientific purposes Gary!

now this would be showing off, my new Royal F1 Alumninum Black Anodized Paddles:


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Nice picture of the cars facing the garage, they both look so smooooooth...
Thanks man! It's funny how both the cars are pretty damn dirty, but in the dark, you can't see squat!

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It's just you...LOL. I think they look almost identical. Beam pattern is similar. Cut-off line is the same. Light consistency is the same.

Wow, thanks for posting this up, Phil.
NP man, anytime... you know how I like MBWorld: mbworld > m3forum >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> e46fanatics
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now this would be showing off, my new Royal F1 Alumninum Black Anodized Paddles:
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...now this would be showing off, my new Royal F1 Alumninum Black Anodized Paddles:
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Or is it your way of telling us that you can't drive stick shift j/k, bro.
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Originally Posted by drexappeal
Or is it your way of telling us that you can't drive stick shift j/k, bro.
oh snap! I'd take offense, but remembered that you ordered yours and chose the real auto...
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oh snap! I'd take offense, but remembered that you ordered yours and chose the real auto...
LOL...Yeah, but remember, that was for emergency purposes so the parentals could drive the car if need be...Your m3 is just for you bro...
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Originally Posted by drexappeal
Or is it your way of telling us that you can't drive stick shift j/k, bro.


This is Phil we are discussing and not his alter ego C230_617. Correct?

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This is Phil we are discussing and not his alter ego C230_617. Correct?

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Oooh...Conspiracy Theory! Yeah, Phil. How is it that you catch that guy so quickly?...
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Oooh...Conspiracy Theory! Yeah, Phil. How is it that you catch that guy so quickly?...
DAMN!?! How'd you guys know? Did my IP filter/changer fail? ****! The gig is up!
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DAMN!?! How'd you guys know? Did my IP filter/changer fail? ****! The gig is up!
When you think you know a homeboy...Damn, so dissapointing.
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I think the c-class light looks cleaner and sharper...just my point of view.
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