superman2269

Hey guys,,
I would like to replace the highbeam, foglamp and running lights on my 2002 c320.. to HID Xenon. I have the Xenons for the low beams... and got some cheap "HIDs" on ebay for the fogs and highbeams,, but they already blew.. where do I get the replacement bulbs?? the real ones.. to match the low beams..

thanks

KC

amdeutsch

If you want real ones you'll need to get more than just bulbs.

drexappeal

Sounds like you're confused in explaining exactly what you have. You realize that if you want to replace the highbeam, foglamp and running lights to HID XENON, you would need 6 ballasts total (3 HID kits that match the stock halogen bulb size).

There is a company by the name of XENON that makes blue halogen bulbs, but you need to be a little clearer because your thread doesn't really make sense.

DACHIGGA

Get a xenon kit, that's pretty muich the only way to really match other xenons.

On a side note, don't spend more than 250 on a kit, it's just not worth any more than that.

superman2269

I just want the Fogs, highbeams, and running lights to match the HID low beams that came with the car..

where to find them,,

how much am I lookin at for everything..

thanks


sorry for the confusion

drexappeal

So what you're asking for are NOT HID or XENON or HID-XENON. What you're asking for are Halogen replacement bulbs that exude a light that looks as close to matching the low beams (i.e. "hyper white" or "blue" bulbs)

1) You won't find ANY parking lights that will match the headlights with exception to LED white parking lights, however you will need a load equalizer in order to change the parking lights to LED.

2) There are several options that can come somewhat close, but will never be able to match the light output of Xenon headlights (low beam). I have a 2004.5, so I have the clear fogs and bi-xenons. The light output would be a little different, therefore my frame of reference is not the same.

I use NOKYA Arctic Purple bulbs in the foglights. I use NOKYA Arctic White bulbs for the high beams (halogen portion of high beam). I think the Arctic Purple bulbs I got are too purple, but still look better than the stock bulbs I had in there. NOKYA Arctic white match very well with the bix low beam, but since you have the pre-bixenon HID setup, you can probably go with a blue/purple light output.

There are several other options out there. This has been discussed several times throughout this message board. Do a search for "REPLACE FOGLIGHTS", "REPLACE BULBS", "REPLACE PARKING LIGHTS", etc...

I have PIAA 194's in my Parking lights, but they don't really match. They look much better than stock, but don't match.

Hope that answers your question.

LMing

Just installed Philips Ultinon 6000K on my car, here are some pictures, first one is the original 4100k bulb, rest one are the 6000k. it is white-blue compare to stock 4100K's yellow-blue, but not as bule as the Japanese bulb, I hope you guys like it~

W0n6_3d4n

How's the output compare to stock?? Lastly how much??

LMing

I would say you lose 10% of vision compare to stock because everthing on the road is a bit bule now, but I think it's worth to lose those 10% I paid around 250 US shipped. help it helps. thanks~

JamE55

It looks pretty bright. Where did you buy them? Was it sold as a kit? How hard/long was the install?

LMing

It's a direct bulb swap if you have bi-xenon, I got it from Here It tooks me like half hour for the first one because I don't know how to put the bulb socket back, 2nd one took me 5 mins to put back~ help it helps~

JamE55

Thanks for the info LMing. Need to do more homework on mine.

LMing

you are welcome, I am glad I can help

diamondblak05

Actually, according to Philips, you would lose 25% of illumination because the stock 4100K D2S bulb is rated at 3200 lumens while the ultinon 6000K bulb is rated at 2400 lumens. I like the bluish/purplish/white color combination but when it starts to rain, you won't be able to see much of anything. Because of that, I swapped it right back to stock after a week.

Vader55

I agree that anything over 6000k is a waste you do lose some lumens. but this not being able to see in the rain is joke to me ? I run a S500 D2S HID projector with the 6000K Ultinons and it is *** X ray vision ... brighter than most peoples high beams. So something is wrong with your setup for sure diamondblak05 .. what setup did you run your ultinon and are you sure it was the non DOT deal ?

Here is a picture of a 6000k Ultinon and a OEM 4300K which is the brighest and which is the phillips everyone ??

diamondblak05

The eye is more sensitive to the blue spectrum of light, thus, of course, the color blue will appear brighter. It also attracts more attention, thus making you think it's brighter. But this does not mean it's necessarily brighter. It's just your retina playing tricks on you. Wait until you're in a heavy rain storm or when you're traveling on a black asphalt surface and then you'll know what I mean. There's a reason why 4100K is standard equipment. For more info, please visit www.hidplanet.com
All your HID questions will be answered there.

LMing

Thank you for sharing the info, before I swap the bulb, if I am behind a sliver car with my 4300k bulb, the reflection light from the rear bumper would hurt my eyes, but now with 6000k is more comfortable, I guess it's a yes and no question depends on people, worse case I guess I will turn on my fog lights in the heavy rain

BklynBenz

if you live in a city where theres street lights at night dont worry about it, ive had 6000k and 8000k bulbs in before and at least in nyc you cant tell the loss of light

Tishers

I am confused. Why would you put bulbs in that reduce your visibility?

I know that there is some sort of coolness factor to it but it seems counterproductive.

JeT

Like BklynBenz just said, if you live in a large city, then it is not much of an issue. Besides, there have been a few posts in the past talking about how other drivers think you are high beaming them when you have the bixens. Lowering the lumens on bixens may actually be safer for other dirvers...but that depends on how much these Ultinons lower the light - if it turns out to be similar to normal halogens then its certainly not unsafe.

Jkw

Just my 2 cents, But I would like as much light as possible on the road.
Jkw

diamondblak05

True. If you live in a well lit city, you won't be able to notice much difference in lumens loss. But in rural or suburb areas where there's less light posts, the more, the better. Personally, the highest I'll go, for the look and visibility, is 6000K. Anything above that defeats the purpose of having HID lights.

BklynBenz

yeah thats cause practically every route, street and highway in NJ dont have street lights, so you need all the lumens you can get

mbny

i had the philipps ultinon 6000ks in my 330 coupe. my car came stock w/ 4100k osrams which looked like crap. BMW will put either 4100k osrams or 4300k phillips which look nicer and light up better. i switched to the 6000ks and here's my experience with them. normal driving conditions light output seemed better. brighter and illuminated street/highway signs and street lines and reflectors much better than the stock xenons. in the rain however, you will notice a slight decrease in visibility on dark paved roads, i guess asphalt (by my house in florida all the roads are white and had much better visibility). you will still see signs and painted street lines better with the 6000ks over stock in the rain however. either way, i loved them and am thinking about getting them again for the benz. even with the slight decrease in visibility in wet weather, your visibility is still 10 times better over halogens

i would not go over 6000k though. the philipps ultinons are great bulbs and i think although they are listed as 6000k, they are actually 5400 or 5600k. can't remember which one it is. had them on my bmw for 2 and a half years then sold them when i got rid of the car.

mbny

LMing, looks sweet bro