Aftermarket HID Conversion Kits & required setting XENON=PRESENT thread
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around $80...i think its worth the money...but however, i heard that PIAA LED bulbs burn out fast...so...hopefully it'll last a bit...LMing...do you know if the LED burns out...can we just buy the bulbs or do we have to buy a whole new kit?
03-21-2006, 10:51 PM
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around $80...i think its worth the money...but however, i heard that PIAA LED bulbs burn out fast...so...hopefully it'll last a bit...LMing...do you know if the LED burns out...can we just buy the bulbs or do we have to buy a whole new kit?
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Originally Posted by LMing
Probably people install it without the resistor, but this kit comes with one, so I think we should be fine, even if it is dead, we just need to buy a replacement piaa led one...
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If I am correct you run the wires back through the rubber boot that came with the kit. The spade connectors hook back into the stock headlamp wiring sliding the spades into the h-7 connection use the purple connectors between the h7 and wiring to help protect them. According to mtec they have something built into them to trick the computer and you should be good to go. You just need a hole saw to make a whole for the rubber boot. I would also make sure you silicone the back side of the wires on the rubber boot.
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Thanks Lming!
Took your advice and gave it a good pull 
Thanks for the advice!
Thanks for the advice!
Originally Posted by LMing
Original one was Philips 4100k,
tenchi_dono, you need a small hand and pull from the plastic part, it needs a lot force for the first time.... heh guess it's tight...
tenchi_dono, you need a small hand and pull from the plastic part, it needs a lot force for the first time.... heh guess it's tight...
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HID upgrade problems
Hello Benz enthusiasts:
So i have this 2001 C240 with the ugly lights and i decided that i want to get a set of those DEPO aftermarket headlights and upgraded to HID lights w/the ballasts and the whole 9 yards. So, i get the lights installed which looked absolutely beautiful and then i install the HID upgrade kit following the directions very carefully (The kit was made by KAIXEN by the way). I have my buddy reset all the computer to make sure no errors were present and also did the "XENON PRESENT" modification on the computer reset.
** This computer fix did not work **
I've re-checked the wiring completely, and even did a simple swap of the ballasts from left to right and vice versa. Still nothing.
The problem i'm having is as follows:
1. As i start the car w/the headlamp switch on "AUTO"... as the sensors detect night time, and the ballasts ignite the lights, one comes on, and the other just flickers.
2. As i start the car w/the headlamp switch to "OFF"... as i drive away for a few feet and hit the switch manually to the "ON" position, one comes on, the other just flickers.
3. With the car NOT started, i manually put the headlights to the "ON" position, at which time BOTH ballasts ignite the lights and they come on as they should, but when i turn the engine on, one stays on, the other flickers.
I've re-checked the installation, and my guy has gone thru his computer with a fine tooth comb to search for any tricks or fixes that could fix this problem to no avail. Now my question is, is that i've read that some had HID upgrades w/no computer errors. Is this car sensitive to certain types of kits? or certain types of ballasts? I'm at my wits end, and any response would be appreciated
So i have this 2001 C240 with the ugly lights and i decided that i want to get a set of those DEPO aftermarket headlights and upgraded to HID lights w/the ballasts and the whole 9 yards. So, i get the lights installed which looked absolutely beautiful and then i install the HID upgrade kit following the directions very carefully (The kit was made by KAIXEN by the way). I have my buddy reset all the computer to make sure no errors were present and also did the "XENON PRESENT" modification on the computer reset.
** This computer fix did not work **
I've re-checked the wiring completely, and even did a simple swap of the ballasts from left to right and vice versa. Still nothing.
The problem i'm having is as follows:
1. As i start the car w/the headlamp switch on "AUTO"... as the sensors detect night time, and the ballasts ignite the lights, one comes on, and the other just flickers.
2. As i start the car w/the headlamp switch to "OFF"... as i drive away for a few feet and hit the switch manually to the "ON" position, one comes on, the other just flickers.
3. With the car NOT started, i manually put the headlights to the "ON" position, at which time BOTH ballasts ignite the lights and they come on as they should, but when i turn the engine on, one stays on, the other flickers.
I've re-checked the installation, and my guy has gone thru his computer with a fine tooth comb to search for any tricks or fixes that could fix this problem to no avail. Now my question is, is that i've read that some had HID upgrades w/no computer errors. Is this car sensitive to certain types of kits? or certain types of ballasts? I'm at my wits end, and any response would be appreciated
05-23-2006, 12:58 PM
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For the side that flickers, is it consistently that side or is it dependent on whichever side that particular ballast is attached to.
The only thing I can think of is if you try switching the ballasts, see if the flickering changes to the other side. If it does, then it's that particular ballast that is bad. If not, maybe the xenon bulb is bad or the ignitor.
From the sound of things, you've probably run all these scenarios already, so I'll see if any other things come to mind as to what you could do. If you have the Xenon set to present already, you shouldn't be having a problem with the functionality. At that point, it has to be something with regard to the HID kit. Only problem is, it's difficult to really deduct what is wrong with the kit.
Keep us informed and I'll try to think of any other reasons why this may be happening. Sorry to hear about your troubles. On a positive note, do you have any pics of the housings installed? I'm sure there are a few people that have considered the depo lights and it always is a help for people to see it visually on a forum member's car.
Good luck with the resolution.
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The only thing I can think of is if you try switching the ballasts, see if the flickering changes to the other side. If it does, then it's that particular ballast that is bad. If not, maybe the xenon bulb is bad or the ignitor.
From the sound of things, you've probably run all these scenarios already, so I'll see if any other things come to mind as to what you could do. If you have the Xenon set to present already, you shouldn't be having a problem with the functionality. At that point, it has to be something with regard to the HID kit. Only problem is, it's difficult to really deduct what is wrong with the kit.
Keep us informed and I'll try to think of any other reasons why this may be happening. Sorry to hear about your troubles. On a positive note, do you have any pics of the housings installed? I'm sure there are a few people that have considered the depo lights and it always is a help for people to see it visually on a forum member's car.
Good luck with the resolution.
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05-23-2006, 01:02 PM
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I think the chances favor the cause as being the ballast. Not all are created
equal...and some have higher/lower resistance (and power draw). Zam2000
is the HID guru, having retrofitted couple dozen. He's also detailed on MBWorld
(as well as HIDPlanet) his relative ranking of ballasts....and their likelyhood of
invoking the flicker or "Lamp Defective" message.
Let me add that it is my experience that the Depo lens and reflector sux. So
for you to toss in an HID bulb inside a halogen projector is akin to putting lipstick
on a pig. Having said that, Depo may have changed their design, so i hope
(for your sake) they have. When you get things up and running, do post pic
of the light spread against a wall and we'll assess.
equal...and some have higher/lower resistance (and power draw). Zam2000
is the HID guru, having retrofitted couple dozen. He's also detailed on MBWorld
(as well as HIDPlanet) his relative ranking of ballasts....and their likelyhood of
invoking the flicker or "Lamp Defective" message.
Let me add that it is my experience that the Depo lens and reflector sux. So
for you to toss in an HID bulb inside a halogen projector is akin to putting lipstick
on a pig. Having said that, Depo may have changed their design, so i hope
(for your sake) they have. When you get things up and running, do post pic
of the light spread against a wall and we'll assess.
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HID solved for now
Hello again,
Drex, thanks for the reassurance there, and Raymond, though the DEPO's aren't as nice as the SLK's and newer C's, they're a heck of alot easier on the eyes than the stock "clouded lines" headlamps. So, having said that, i brought my car in today (5/23) in the morning so my mechanic, Renno, can take another shot at the problem with the flickering menace. As a sidenote to this little drama, Renno emailed Euro Benz technicians with the problem to see if he'd get some feedback.
We've already established that switching ballasts, changing the program to "XENON PRESENT" and looking into load resistors to match the stock halogen and going higher on the fuse amperage did not help the inconsistent ignition of the bulbs. I left the car w/Renno for a couple hours so he can in his own words, "try to do some creative programming" to fix this problem.
So i come back and i get a greeting from Renno w/a big thumbs up and telling me that he's tried the lights "MANUALLY" and no flickering involved. He drove it with the headlamps in "AUTO" and we drove into an underground parking where the lighting was dim... IT TURNED ON W/NO FLICKERING! Renno told me that he'd been emailed w/some software ignition module pckg to which he downloaded it to his Mercedes computer and then re-programmed my car computer with the new software. The car was not made to accept HID and because of this, the computer was not recognizing the amount of draw from the coils and the low wattage bulbs. Apparently, having gone thru the basic computer and mechanical fixes, it was an ignition module software fix that got the car to respond and recognize the HID upgrade. I'm not a tech and barely car savvy to even explain the fix to the more advanced tech; so, let me end this long drawn out drama to say that i hope that this is it.
Oh, and the first chance i get tomorrow after i wash and detail it a bit, i'll take pictures of the car w/the aftermarket lights/grill w/flat badge.
Thanks for your patience in reading and replying to this.
Drex, thanks for the reassurance there, and Raymond, though the DEPO's aren't as nice as the SLK's and newer C's, they're a heck of alot easier on the eyes than the stock "clouded lines" headlamps. So, having said that, i brought my car in today (5/23) in the morning so my mechanic, Renno, can take another shot at the problem with the flickering menace. As a sidenote to this little drama, Renno emailed Euro Benz technicians with the problem to see if he'd get some feedback.
We've already established that switching ballasts, changing the program to "XENON PRESENT" and looking into load resistors to match the stock halogen and going higher on the fuse amperage did not help the inconsistent ignition of the bulbs. I left the car w/Renno for a couple hours so he can in his own words, "try to do some creative programming" to fix this problem.
So i come back and i get a greeting from Renno w/a big thumbs up and telling me that he's tried the lights "MANUALLY" and no flickering involved. He drove it with the headlamps in "AUTO" and we drove into an underground parking where the lighting was dim... IT TURNED ON W/NO FLICKERING! Renno told me that he'd been emailed w/some software ignition module pckg to which he downloaded it to his Mercedes computer and then re-programmed my car computer with the new software. The car was not made to accept HID and because of this, the computer was not recognizing the amount of draw from the coils and the low wattage bulbs. Apparently, having gone thru the basic computer and mechanical fixes, it was an ignition module software fix that got the car to respond and recognize the HID upgrade. I'm not a tech and barely car savvy to even explain the fix to the more advanced tech; so, let me end this long drawn out drama to say that i hope that this is it.
Oh, and the first chance i get tomorrow after i wash and detail it a bit, i'll take pictures of the car w/the aftermarket lights/grill w/flat badge.
Thanks for your patience in reading and replying to this.
05-23-2006, 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by kenzobenzo
Hello again,
Drex, thanks for the reassurance there, and Raymond, though the DEPO's aren't as nice as the SLK's and newer C's, they're a heck of alot easier on the eyes than the stock "clouded lines" headlamps. So, having said that, i brought my car in today (5/23) in the morning so my mechanic, Renno, can take another shot at the problem with the flickering menace. As a sidenote to this little drama, Renno emailed Euro Benz technicians with the problem to see if he'd get some feedback.
We've already established that switching ballasts, changing the program to "XENON PRESENT" and looking into load resistors to match the stock halogen and going higher on the fuse amperage did not help the inconsistent ignition of the bulbs. I left the car w/Renno for a couple hours so he can in his own words, "try to do some creative programming" to fix this problem.
So i come back and i get a greeting from Renno w/a big thumbs up and telling me that he's tried the lights "MANUALLY" and no flickering involved. He drove it with the headlamps in "AUTO" and we drove into an underground parking where the lighting was dim... IT TURNED ON W/NO FLICKERING! Renno told me that he'd been emailed w/some software ignition module pckg to which he downloaded it to his Mercedes computer and then re-programmed my car computer with the new software. The car was not made to accept HID and because of this, the computer was not recognizing the amount of draw from the coils and the low wattage bulbs. Apparently, having gone thru the basic computer and mechanical fixes, it was an ignition module software fix that got the car to respond and recognize the HID upgrade. I'm not a tech and barely car savvy to even explain the fix to the more advanced tech; so, let me end this long drawn out drama to say that i hope that this is it.
Oh, and the first chance i get tomorrow after i wash and detail it a bit, i'll take pictures of the car w/the aftermarket lights/grill w/flat badge.
Thanks for your patience in reading and replying to this.
Drex, thanks for the reassurance there, and Raymond, though the DEPO's aren't as nice as the SLK's and newer C's, they're a heck of alot easier on the eyes than the stock "clouded lines" headlamps. So, having said that, i brought my car in today (5/23) in the morning so my mechanic, Renno, can take another shot at the problem with the flickering menace. As a sidenote to this little drama, Renno emailed Euro Benz technicians with the problem to see if he'd get some feedback.
We've already established that switching ballasts, changing the program to "XENON PRESENT" and looking into load resistors to match the stock halogen and going higher on the fuse amperage did not help the inconsistent ignition of the bulbs. I left the car w/Renno for a couple hours so he can in his own words, "try to do some creative programming" to fix this problem.
So i come back and i get a greeting from Renno w/a big thumbs up and telling me that he's tried the lights "MANUALLY" and no flickering involved. He drove it with the headlamps in "AUTO" and we drove into an underground parking where the lighting was dim... IT TURNED ON W/NO FLICKERING! Renno told me that he'd been emailed w/some software ignition module pckg to which he downloaded it to his Mercedes computer and then re-programmed my car computer with the new software. The car was not made to accept HID and because of this, the computer was not recognizing the amount of draw from the coils and the low wattage bulbs. Apparently, having gone thru the basic computer and mechanical fixes, it was an ignition module software fix that got the car to respond and recognize the HID upgrade. I'm not a tech and barely car savvy to even explain the fix to the more advanced tech; so, let me end this long drawn out drama to say that i hope that this is it.
Oh, and the first chance i get tomorrow after i wash and detail it a bit, i'll take pictures of the car w/the aftermarket lights/grill w/flat badge.
Thanks for your patience in reading and replying to this.
If you wouldn't mind, could you PM me the info.
Thanks.
drex
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So i jut got an HID kit to upgrade my foglights and bi-xenons. Do you guys think this is something that can be a do it yourselfer. I am pretty handy with tools i am just scared of electricity. If i were to get someone to install these for me how much do you think i would be looking at? Its the full HID kit (plug and play with bulbs, ballasts and connectors. I did a search for a step by step on how to do this but came up empty. Any help is greatly appreciated.
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try fog light bulb removel
to replace the fog light try foglight removel instruction.. just replace the hid system inplace of the 9006 bulb, n the bi's sorry i dont have that.. i got aftermarket hids in place of the h-7,
05-26-2006, 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by eunosracr
So i jut got an HID kit to upgrade my foglights and bi-xenons. Do you guys think this is something that can be a do it yourselfer. I am pretty handy with tools i am just scared of electricity. If i were to get someone to install these for me how much do you think i would be looking at? Its the full HID kit (plug and play with bulbs, ballasts and connectors. I did a search for a step by step on how to do this but came up empty. Any help is greatly appreciated.
2) Didn't your kit come with a manual?
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Originally Posted by amdeutsch
1) Why would you get an HID kit to upgrade BIX?
2) Didn't your kit come with a manual?
2) Didn't your kit come with a manual?
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Originally Posted by rlee02135
what size is the bulb?
the h7 fits the heallight and 9006 fits the fogs.
the h7 fits the heallight and 9006 fits the fogs.
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...hlight=kenzmbz
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Newbie Help w/HID kit
Hi everyone,My name is Alex and I just purchased my first Mercedes C230K.
I tryed searching but couldn't find my answer.
I want to install an HID kit and was wondering what are the common kits for these cars.I don't want to spend more then $400 and want them in 6000k and up.Thanks in advance.
I tryed searching but couldn't find my answer.
I want to install an HID kit and was wondering what are the common kits for these cars.I don't want to spend more then $400 and want them in 6000k and up.Thanks in advance.
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contact Carlab
CarLAB Motorsports - 670 Nuttman St #101/102 - Santa Clara, CA 95054 - T: 650 641 0194 / 408 718 2986
they have a kit that u can installed with out putting the Car Setting to Xenon=Present
also search for Xenon, HID,Bi-xenon u must find your answer
CarLAB Motorsports - 670 Nuttman St #101/102 - Santa Clara, CA 95054 - T: 650 641 0194 / 408 718 2986
they have a kit that u can installed with out putting the Car Setting to Xenon=Present
also search for Xenon, HID,Bi-xenon u must find your answer
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Originally Posted by WaveyKat
contact Carlab
CarLAB Motorsports - 670 Nuttman St #101/102 - Santa Clara, CA 95054 - T: 650 641 0194 / 408 718 2986
they have a kit that u can installed with out putting the Car Setting to Xenon=Present
also search for Xenon, HID,Bi-xenon u must find your answer
CarLAB Motorsports - 670 Nuttman St #101/102 - Santa Clara, CA 95054 - T: 650 641 0194 / 408 718 2986
they have a kit that u can installed with out putting the Car Setting to Xenon=Present
also search for Xenon, HID,Bi-xenon u must find your answer
I called them up but he said the check engine light would turn on.
Can it be removed?I don't want no check engine light on.
Thanks!
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Originally Posted by eunosracr
Exactly. I think I figured out what kenzmbz did. See thread attached. He did the HID upgrade on his fogs and used matching bulbs in his bixenons. I think thats the route im going to take. Is this a do it yourselfer? What do you guys think?
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...hlight=kenzmbz
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...hlight=kenzmbz
