Aftermarket HID Conversion Kits & required setting XENON=PRESENT thread
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From: Kissimmee/Orlando FL
2005 c230 kompressor
Are there certain models that require all this stuff? I installed my HIDs on my low beams and foglights without anything and they have been working perfect for months without any flickering or anything. I just installed h7 low beams 9006 fogs and the 4 ballasts. I just wa t to know I my certain model is different then everyone elses.
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2007 C280 4Matic
I just went to the dealership in Astoria, Queens in NYC and they have no idea about this option. I should have printed this step by step guide on how to do it http://www.mymbonline.com/forum/187-...n-present.html
Everytime I go to the dealership I have a bad experience. Anyone live in NYC and have a good place for MB service?
Everytime I go to the dealership I have a bad experience. Anyone live in NYC and have a good place for MB service?
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2004 C 200 Kompressor
LOL let me help you out here guys im not an amateur or a fan just trying to play to car expert, im an actual engineer and i have worked for a mayor mayor car electronic manufacturer which makes Instrument clusters, air bag sensors and so on for Beemer, Merc, Caddy, Alfa Romeo ETC.
THERE IS NOT SUCH THING AS REAL OF FAKE XENON LOL LOL AND LOL!!!
The xenon bulbs or HID ar just a high voltage bulbs that get the power out from as ballast wich increase voltage (not amps) up to 25,000 volts and this way the light can be brighter, now why xenon filled?? ok xenon is a inert gas that will keep the bulb filament to burn at that super high voltage.
so you can get a HID kit at ebay for 35 bucks or so, and yes THEY ARE ALL REEEAL XENON LOL, all the fancy cars uses the same system a ballast wich are feed with 12 VCC outputting 25,000 VCC and i mean ALL OF THE XENON KITS.
so nex time jut check out the original bulb size and purchase a fitting kit, now have in mind that we merc owners have a SAM on our trunk wich controls the light and if the power being draw from the head lights is less than 48 watts the light will go off and almost every aftermarket xenon kit works with 35 watts, so you can either look for a 55 watt kit (also available everywhere) or purchase a "error cancelling kit for hid"
and that's it!! no need to discuss real xenon or fake xenon, the only fake xenon i could think of is the ones that does not come in with a ballast they are only super high watt bulbs which will draw a huge amount of juice of your batt, and will eventually fade your head light, believe it or not, xenon ballast kits draws 1/2 of the power than regular bulbs
THERE IS NOT SUCH THING AS REAL OF FAKE XENON LOL LOL AND LOL!!!
The xenon bulbs or HID ar just a high voltage bulbs that get the power out from as ballast wich increase voltage (not amps) up to 25,000 volts and this way the light can be brighter, now why xenon filled?? ok xenon is a inert gas that will keep the bulb filament to burn at that super high voltage.
so you can get a HID kit at ebay for 35 bucks or so, and yes THEY ARE ALL REEEAL XENON LOL, all the fancy cars uses the same system a ballast wich are feed with 12 VCC outputting 25,000 VCC and i mean ALL OF THE XENON KITS.
so nex time jut check out the original bulb size and purchase a fitting kit, now have in mind that we merc owners have a SAM on our trunk wich controls the light and if the power being draw from the head lights is less than 48 watts the light will go off and almost every aftermarket xenon kit works with 35 watts, so you can either look for a 55 watt kit (also available everywhere) or purchase a "error cancelling kit for hid"
and that's it!! no need to discuss real xenon or fake xenon, the only fake xenon i could think of is the ones that does not come in with a ballast they are only super high watt bulbs which will draw a huge amount of juice of your batt, and will eventually fade your head light, believe it or not, xenon ballast kits draws 1/2 of the power than regular bulbs
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2007 c230
I just went to the dealership in Astoria, Queens in NYC and they have no idea about this option. I should have printed this step by step guide on how to do it http://www.mymbonline.com/forum/187-...n-present.html
Everytime I go to the dealership I have a bad experience. Anyone live in NYC and have a good place for MB service?
Everytime I go to the dealership I have a bad experience. Anyone live in NYC and have a good place for MB service?
do me a favor go into your settings and with your headlights switch Constant to Manual and see if that helps. Thats what worked for me!
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LOL let me help you out here guys im not an amateur or a fan just trying to play to car expert, im an actual engineer and i have worked for a mayor mayor car electronic manufacturer which makes Instrument clusters, air bag sensors and so on for Beemer, Merc, Caddy, Alfa Romeo ETC.
THERE IS NOT SUCH THING AS REAL OF FAKE XENON LOL LOL AND LOL!!!
The xenon bulbs or HID ar just a high voltage bulbs that get the power out from as ballast wich increase voltage (not amps) up to 25,000 volts and this way the light can be brighter, now why xenon filled?? ok xenon is a inert gas that will keep the bulb filament to burn at that super high voltage.
so you can get a HID kit at ebay for 35 bucks or so, and yes THEY ARE ALL REEEAL XENON LOL, all the fancy cars uses the same system a ballast wich are feed with 12 VCC outputting 25,000 VCC and i mean ALL OF THE XENON KITS.
so nex time jut check out the original bulb size and purchase a fitting kit, now have in mind that we merc owners have a SAM on our trunk wich controls the light and if the power being draw from the head lights is less than 48 watts the light will go off and almost every aftermarket xenon kit works with 35 watts, so you can either look for a 55 watt kit (also available everywhere) or purchase a "error cancelling kit for hid"
and that's it!! no need to discuss real xenon or fake xenon, the only fake xenon i could think of is the ones that does not come in with a ballast they are only super high watt bulbs which will draw a huge amount of juice of your batt, and will eventually fade your head light, believe it or not, xenon ballast kits draws 1/2 of the power than regular bulbs
THERE IS NOT SUCH THING AS REAL OF FAKE XENON LOL LOL AND LOL!!!
The xenon bulbs or HID ar just a high voltage bulbs that get the power out from as ballast wich increase voltage (not amps) up to 25,000 volts and this way the light can be brighter, now why xenon filled?? ok xenon is a inert gas that will keep the bulb filament to burn at that super high voltage.
so you can get a HID kit at ebay for 35 bucks or so, and yes THEY ARE ALL REEEAL XENON LOL, all the fancy cars uses the same system a ballast wich are feed with 12 VCC outputting 25,000 VCC and i mean ALL OF THE XENON KITS.
so nex time jut check out the original bulb size and purchase a fitting kit, now have in mind that we merc owners have a SAM on our trunk wich controls the light and if the power being draw from the head lights is less than 48 watts the light will go off and almost every aftermarket xenon kit works with 35 watts, so you can either look for a 55 watt kit (also available everywhere) or purchase a "error cancelling kit for hid"
and that's it!! no need to discuss real xenon or fake xenon, the only fake xenon i could think of is the ones that does not come in with a ballast they are only super high watt bulbs which will draw a huge amount of juice of your batt, and will eventually fade your head light, believe it or not, xenon ballast kits draws 1/2 of the power than regular bulbs
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2006 C350 Sport 6MT
The Xenon setting does work for these kits. I enabled the Xenon feature with STAR on couple of members' cars. One of them is Rollnnn and he can vouch that the flickering/error went away. If I recall correctly he is using the DDM kit.
Edit:
My car never gave me such errors but I enabled it anyway. Another w203 owner (2007 c230) who is not a member on this forum also was having similar issues and the Xenon feature took care of it. This is why I believe it's mostly the kit itself and call it "a hit or miss".
Edit:
My car never gave me such errors but I enabled it anyway. Another w203 owner (2007 c230) who is not a member on this forum also was having similar issues and the Xenon feature took care of it. This is why I believe it's mostly the kit itself and call it "a hit or miss".
Last edited by W203E35; Jun 8, 2011 at 06:17 AM.
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C230
I never had a clear answer, but when are the error cancellors necessary?
I haven't had xenon=present set yet, but I'm on a 55watt DDM kit using the cancellors. Do I really need them or are they only necessary for the 35watt kit as the factory bulbs were 55watt.
Are the cancellors doing more harm in with the 55watt?
I haven't had xenon=present set yet, but I'm on a 55watt DDM kit using the cancellors. Do I really need them or are they only necessary for the 35watt kit as the factory bulbs were 55watt.
Are the cancellors doing more harm in with the 55watt?
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2004 C 200 Kompressor
I never had a clear answer, but when are the error cancellors necessary?
I haven't had xenon=present set yet, but I'm on a 55watt DDM kit using the canceller. Do I really need them or are they only necessary for the 35watt kit as the factory bulbs were 55watt.
Are the canceller doing more harm in with the 55watt?
I haven't had xenon=present set yet, but I'm on a 55watt DDM kit using the canceller. Do I really need them or are they only necessary for the 35watt kit as the factory bulbs were 55watt.
Are the canceller doing more harm in with the 55watt?
They are not haming any thing but you dont need them.. Merc SAM sences if your lights are draining les than 4.1 Amps (12 VCC from batery/ 50 Watts) or more than 6 Amps; they light will turn of since the car will think they are out, your error cancelers are not doing any thing wrong if any thing they are helping you to avoid flicking for low voltage since they are only a 36V 4700 Micro farad capacitors but any how NO YOU DO NOT NEED THEM!
Hope this helps
Regards
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06 C230 SS 6spd
you can first try and set the xenon to present to see if it stops the flickering, if not you'll want to get an error eliminator. You can also make your own custom error eliminator, theres a thread around here that a W211 member did using some capacitors from radio shack.
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Yeah, it's usually one or the other, Get xenon set to present at the dealer or through SDS, or use the error eliminator. I would go for the first option.
you can first try and set the xenon to present to see if it stops the flickering, if not you'll want to get an error eliminator. You can also make your own custom error eliminator, theres a thread around here that a W211 member did using some capacitors from radio shack.
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SheryarYO - HID Solution
SheryarYO,
Most auto (day running lights-DRL) lights run at only 60% to 80% power. When you had the flickering problem solved, what happened was the dealer/shop put in capacitors to regulate an exact power output. These caps will only work with the max. (100%) power output of the light system. That is why the lights no longer work using the DRL, not enough power. You can fix the problem by installing the optional wire harness most HID kits offer, just live without the DRL.
Most auto (day running lights-DRL) lights run at only 60% to 80% power. When you had the flickering problem solved, what happened was the dealer/shop put in capacitors to regulate an exact power output. These caps will only work with the max. (100%) power output of the light system. That is why the lights no longer work using the DRL, not enough power. You can fix the problem by installing the optional wire harness most HID kits offer, just live without the DRL.
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Are there certain models that require all this stuff? I installed my HIDs on my low beams and foglights without anything and they have been working perfect for months without any flickering or anything. I just installed h7 low beams 9006 fogs and the 4 ballasts. I just wa t to know I my certain model is different then everyone elses.
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HID KIT help
Hi,
I recently purchased a VVME 8000K hid kit with error cancelers.The ballast is 35W. After installing the kit, I noticed that there was buzzing sounds as the light flickered on and off. The intensity of the light was much lower than the standard halogen bulb. When I use the error cancelers, the light is on for a shorter amount of time and it still flickers and buzzes. I read above that buzzing is normal for the light as it warms up. I turned my car on for about 20 minutes but the bulb never increased in intensity and the light continued to flicker. Can someone please help me fix my light issue? I would greatly appreciate it.
Thank you,
Iftikhar
I recently purchased a VVME 8000K hid kit with error cancelers.The ballast is 35W. After installing the kit, I noticed that there was buzzing sounds as the light flickered on and off. The intensity of the light was much lower than the standard halogen bulb. When I use the error cancelers, the light is on for a shorter amount of time and it still flickers and buzzes. I read above that buzzing is normal for the light as it warms up. I turned my car on for about 20 minutes but the bulb never increased in intensity and the light continued to flicker. Can someone please help me fix my light issue? I would greatly appreciate it.
Thank you,
Iftikhar
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late 2009 CLK 350 Coupe Elegance, '65 Jaguar S Type wires
Do you have Xenon = Present set by Star? I don't know how well cancellers work.
Otherwise you have an ignitor issue.
Otherwise you have an ignitor issue.
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I don't understand these dealers. If you download the method from the forum & tell them I want you to do this which will take 10 minutes & I'll pay you. No further expectations ~ I don't see the issue.
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I agree with you, Glyn. I suppose it's worth a try. I certainly could be overreacting or I may have misunderstood, but I got the impression from my stealer that they didn't want to do anything related to non OEM equipment.
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Jim you are probably correct. MBUSA dealers do not want to be any part of "aftermarket" parts that they think may somehow "harm" the car. However, they don't mind at all using the wrong oil type or not servicing the transmissions properly. Apparently those things aren't harming the cars at all. 
