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Old 05-05-2007, 10:50 PM
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i love how i went through all that trouble and u ended up not wanting the headlights lol
lol.. I am just sick of the light output.. lol... I bought it from you $260 + the "trouble" and I bought the Mtec $360 + $50 shipping. If someone offered me 600 + shipping, seriously, I will let it go..
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hmm..not sure sup with your 05+ headlights but the output on mine are very bright and nice. if it wasn't better, mercedes wouldve kept the frosted one or change everything into bix.

I am now running HID on the 05+ headlights, it's just NICE.
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hmm..not sure sup with your 05+ headlights but the output on mine are very bright and nice. if it wasn't better, mercedes wouldve kept the frosted one or change everything into bix.

I am now running HID on the 05+ headlights, it's just NICE.
yeah at first, when i saw how less concentrated the light beam was, i thought it was because i rigged up something to hold the bulb in and it was loose and aimed weird, but i only rigged the high beams, the low beams are absolutely fine
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So,it's the headlights then! Get another pair

OR you could buy Depo headlights and put HID in it and try to get the best light output out of it,PLUS buy HID kit for your fogs. Pretty much, the fogs will be your 'headlights' now,but no matter what, I think you would still get some light output out of your Depo.

You'll get the 'Bi-Xenon' look and pretty good light output too.Just an idea

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yeah at first, when i saw how less concentrated the light beam was, i thought it was because i rigged up something to hold the bulb in and it was loose and aimed weird, but i only rigged the high beams, the low beams are absolutely fine
ha. i dont know what to tell you. i've been in my ex-2000 W202, my friend's 04 W203 and now my 07 W203. all of the halogen headlights are nice and bright with good outputs. if the clear ones doesnt work out for you, go for the bix or depo then. I am not sure sup with your rigging part of the light bulbs. hahaha if you want, i can meet you somewhere to see sup with ur lights and you can check out mine. aim me
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So,it's the headlights then! Get another pair

OR you could buy Depo headlights and put HID in it and try to get the best light output out of it,PLUS buy HID kit for your fogs. Pretty much, the fogs will be your 'headlights' now,but no matter what, I think you would still get some light output out of your Depo.

You'll get the 'Bi-Xenon' look and pretty good light output too.Just an idea
IMO its better to just get oem bi-xenons rather than depo + HID because its the best light output that you can get.

+1 for HID fogs because they just look superb. Here's a pic of my euro spec bi-xenons and hid fog kit
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Originally Posted by cagthuzz2807
I thought that too. Using the clear one, the beam pattern is WORSE.. The light spread to the everywhere and even the beam pattern is different (left and right). I checked whether I put the bulb in the right place, and yes, I did.
beam pattern for left and right should be different
that's normal for everycar
even with the original frosted one, the pattern is different, prob just that you can't tell.
usually, one of the left or right, they adjust the pattern to a bit higher
and clear one should give you pretty much the same output, since it's the same unit, with just clear housing
Old 05-06-2007, 04:09 AM
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beam pattern for left and right should be different
that's normal for everycar
even with the original frosted one, the pattern is different, prob just that you can't tell.
usually, one of the left or right, they adjust the pattern to a bit higher
and clear one should give you pretty much the same output, since it's the same unit, with just clear housing
The beam is totally different.. I don't know how to describe. I will post some pic as soon as I have the chance.

You know what, I just thought and realized something interesting:

if you put HID in halogen based housings, the light pattern would be different since HID has different vocal point.

But, in the frosted housing, the pattern between HID and stock halogen would be pretty much the same since the light is reflected by the housing "bowl" (reflector) and then patterned by the "outer" frosted lense.

For the Clear housings, the light is reflected and patterned by the housing "bowl" (reflector) and therefore, with HID--which has different vocal point-- the pattern would be different.
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Originally Posted by kevblah
i love how i went through all that trouble and u ended up not wanting the headlights lol
hahaha thats the first thing i thought of when I read this post...
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Originally Posted by AndySays
IMO its better to just get oem bi-xenons rather than depo + HID because its the best light output that you can get.

+1 for HID fogs because they just look superb. Here's a pic of my euro spec bi-xenons and hid fog kit
Of course, Bi-Xenon is the best , but I just assumed he didn't want to spend too much money for Bi-Xenon. Instead of Bi-Xenon, he could get Depo with HID and HID fogs for a pretty good light output.
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Originally Posted by cagthuzz2807
The beam is totally different.. I don't know how to describe. I will post some pic as soon as I have the chance.

You know what, I just thought and realized something interesting:

if you put HID in halogen based housings, the light pattern would be different since HID has different vocal point.

But, in the frosted housing, the pattern between HID and stock halogen would be pretty much the same since the light is reflected by the housing "bowl" (reflector) and then patterned by the "outer" frosted lense.

For the Clear housings, the light is reflected and patterned by the housing "bowl" (reflector) and therefore, with HID--which has different vocal point-- the pattern would be different.
Try to adjust it up/down and left/right with a screw driver.Pics?! Just curious

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i had already talked about it before, my frosted headlight gave me BETTER light output than my Bi-xenon. why? because the "Frosted" lens that MB made, actually makes light to bend and focus, whereas the clear headlight they just scatter. This is the reason why the light output decreased. And don't expect anything better with depo / bi-xenon, if u want better light output, either change a different projector depo, stay with frosted headlight, or do what i do, HID fog light.
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i had already talked about it before, my frosted headlight gave me BETTER light output than my Bi-xenon. why? because the "Frosted" lens that MB made, actually makes light to bend and focus, whereas the clear headlight they just scatter. This is the reason why the light output decreased. And don't expect anything better with depo / bi-xenon, if u want better light output, either change a different projector depo, stay with frosted headlight, or do what i do, HID fog light.
This only makes me wonder, does the frosted lens on the fogs have better light output also/
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After hearing these comments, I'm in no rush to get clear headlamps, and as soon as I have some extra money to get HID, I'll probably just keep the frosted.

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Originally Posted by kevblah
This only makes me wonder, does the frosted lens on the fogs have better light output also/
Just by looking at the lens, it seems its a different "frosted". The fogs, you can't even see through them really, at least the headlamps are a clear frosted..

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Originally Posted by powa
i had already talked about it before, my frosted headlight gave me BETTER light output than my Bi-xenon. why? because the "Frosted" lens that MB made, actually makes light to bend and focus, whereas the clear headlight they just scatter. This is the reason why the light output decreased. And don't expect anything better with depo / bi-xenon, if u want better light output, either change a different projector depo, stay with frosted headlight, or do what i do, HID fog light.
HID fogs LOL
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Anyone interested in my Clear headlights? I am buying the bi-xenon as soon as my conversion kit and headlamps sold. Just to be honest, the light patterns using the clear headlights are not totally BAD or UNACCEPTABLE. The reason why I said it's worse coz I just can't accept that I bought the clear which results worse output. If you use halogen in the clear and the frosted, I think the clear gives better output. But if you use the HID in the halogen based clear housings, it's awful. That's why 90% of the OEM cars equipped with XENON use projector housings instead of Clear.
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Originally Posted by kevblah
This only makes me wonder, does the frosted lens on the fogs have better light output also/
Nope,Clear fogs give you a better light output with the same light pattern,well,at least in my car!
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Originally Posted by cagthuzz2807
Anyone interested in my Clear headlights? I am buying the bi-xenon as soon as my conversion kit and headlamps sold. Just to be honest, the light patterns using the clear headlights are not totally BAD or UNACCEPTABLE. The reason why I said it's worse coz I just can't accept that I bought the clear which results worse output. If you use halogen in the clear and the frosted, I think the clear gives better output. But if you use the HID in the halogen based clear housings, it's awful. That's why 90% of the OEM cars equipped with XENON use projector housings instead of Clear.
I think you're just trying to make it sound not that bad, so someone will buy your hid kit and headlights lol.

But anyways, the light output with halogens is a lot more dispersed and not as concentrated. I noticed when parking in front of a wall and backing up in a straight line, the frosted beam was concentrated in the same spot, but the clear lens was getting less and less concentrated and it kept changing, like a kaleidoscope.
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Originally Posted by kevblah
I think you're just trying to make it sound not that bad, so someone will buy your hid kit and headlights lol.

But anyways, the light output with halogens is a lot more dispersed and not as concentrated. I noticed when parking in front of a wall and backing up in a straight line, the frosted beam was concentrated in the same spot, but the clear lens was getting less and less concentrated and it kept changing, like a kaleidoscope.
What ever you say.. lol...

Yeah, that's what I am talking about. the frosted are more concentrated... + if you use HID in the clear, the output is terrible.
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I parked my car in front of my garage door today, and I was shocked to find that my clear lens (on the drivers side) has potentially been blinding all oncoming drivers...look at how high and dispersed the light output is?
is my bulb aimed wrong?


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You may want to check and make sure that it is put in right. I had the same issue and it was because I did not latch it in correctly.
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You may want to check and make sure that it is put in right. I had the same issue and it was because I did not latch it in correctly.
thanks, i'll check it out tomorrow, after u latched it in correctly, was the light more concentrated? or the same output, just lower?


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