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*pics* Alcohol Injection Install, Supercharger Pulley, exhaust.

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Old May 12, 2007 | 08:57 PM
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*pics* Alcohol Injection Install, Supercharger Pulley, exhaust.

well, as some of you may know i recently got a huge bug up my butt and modded out my stock 02 C230 Coupe. i already had the team green air filter, so i cleaned that and went up to the muffler shop. i asked about exhaust and high flow cats, and the high flow cats werent reccommended, even though he had both in stock, so i had him install a flowmaster series 40 muffler with a Ractive black chrome oval exhaust tip, looks and sounds pretty good, movies of me attempting to show ya'll how it sounds were botched by my redneck friend and his rediculous ford ranger.

those video's are at www.myspace.com/madfast, under "videos". gee, surprise there


*side shot of new exhaust, subtle yet sweet.*


*underneath shot to show you how it all came together*


anywho, in the meantime i had gotten bored and pulled out the intake resonator, i like the way it whined a bit louder, that was cool.

ordered ASP's crank pulley and it arrived in good condition of course, swapped it out today, and totally forgot to take step-by-step pictures of the process for a "DIY" style write up, but anyhow it pulls a lot harder at lower rpms and up top it just screams. very nice improvement, well worth the $350 it costs in the end.....


*picture of crank pulley on my dresser*

ordered a base alcohol injection kit from www.alcohol-injection.com "Devils Own", and installed that as well. its recommended to install post intercooler and post MAF, so i chose to go right up top and since it was all sexy nickel and anodized aluminum anyways, it'd look good. and boy was i right! the entire system is hidden to the untrained eye. only someone who knew the car very well would be able to instantly pick up that its alcohol injected too. the pump is hidden, bolted to the right front wheel well in that nice little cubby hole, while the tank is just above it, rather crowded i must say, but still look s pretty clean. install was a breeze with the hardest part being the "where do i get an ignition hot wire? i personally would purchase a low fluid level switch and have it auto shut off when low, but it doesnt come with the kit. i beleive something of that nature is already offered on theyre website.


*shot of most of the engine bay, the only noticable thing is the small piece of plumbing near my MAF/throttle body*


*closer shot of the check valve (chrome) and 90* fitting (black), they screw into the nozzle which is on the inside of the black peice of plastic.*


*the bright white tank is the alcohol tank, the brass valve with black button and white top part is the adjustable boost activated switch. i tried to cover up the wiring as best i could.*


*as you can see, i kept the alcohol away from anything hot- anything. even the radiator, fuel lines, etc etc, doesnt matter, i want it as cool as possible before it gets atomized. the shiny black tubing is located on the very bottom, very front of bumper*


*very hard to see, but that sticker is actually the pump with a devils own sticker on it.....on the right is the right front tire, its tucked up neatly in that little cubby hole*

so i went out and took it for a drive, wonderful! my slip-o-matic rockets forward and suddently i'm not so ashamed to drive an automatic, since it scoots like hell now! i cant wait to put her up on a dyno.......


...oh, and while i was bored waiting for my ride, i had them throw in this new subwoofer by alpine.....


*new alpine lateral type subwoofers, completely unorthodox in nature and sound great. $699 for that one, self powered, and i have it running off of my rear speakers with a signal converter since i have stock head unit. hits equivalent to two 12" subs and a 500WRMS amp. sounds great in the benzo too*

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Old May 12, 2007 | 09:05 PM
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wow... im curious what kind of gains you'll get. you should run a dyno!

and that sub is huuuge... so much for trunk space

i hope the new set-up works for you.

damn... i wish i had an 02 coupe...

i want to view the videos.. but dont have a myspace account. are they posted anywhere else?

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Old May 12, 2007 | 09:49 PM
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lookin good! sounds good! and the flowmaster looks pretty stock like!

the sub is freakin huge man!
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Old May 12, 2007 | 11:24 PM
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In Russia if you say to someone you spray alcohol into your car they will kill you right on the spot. Alcohol must be spayed into your throat!

Nice job! Very impressive
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Old May 13, 2007 | 01:03 AM
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nice mods! i thought you was one of those guys who ask "can i install a turbo in a C230?" when you made that thread!
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Old May 13, 2007 | 01:49 AM
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Can I install a turbo or two in my car?
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Old May 13, 2007 | 01:55 AM
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Originally Posted by chixdiggit
Can I install a turbo or two in my car?
I'm actually in the process of making a tri-turbo M111 engine. the one turbo is fed off of #1 and #2, while #3 and #4 have theyre own turbo's. each of the individual turbo's is going to be a T20, while the turbo thats sequenced for #1 and #2 is a T25. its a really trick setup, i'll post pics when i'm done.....
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Old May 13, 2007 | 02:02 AM
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Originally Posted by midnight kompre
i want to view the videos.. but dont have a myspace account. are they posted anywhere else?
um, i've tried uploading stuff to youtube unsucessfully, it seems to take three years as they video uploader pulls stuff up at about 5kb/s, so i gave up. i should try google video. i will later after i go to the bar. ciao!
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Old May 13, 2007 | 02:07 AM
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Originally Posted by kompressor85
I'm actually in the process of making a tri-turbo M111 engine. the one turbo is fed off of #1 and #2, while #3 and #4 have theyre own turbo's. each of the individual turbo's is going to be a T20, while the turbo thats sequenced for #1 and #2 is a T25. its a really trick setup, i'll post pics when i'm done.....
funny part is i kind of believe you....
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Old May 13, 2007 | 05:44 AM
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heres some more pics that werent crucial to the telling of my story, but are helpful....

its tough to see, but the brass body thing is an adjustable boost presure switch, i've set it to come on at about 6psi. i might raise it.

the small relay shown here, as well as my amp wire. i was laughing at the guys at the stereo place, i knew what a ***** it would be to install and run cables in this car, its too well made!!!

simply another picture of my exhaust...... 'nuff said

up close, showing the welds and clearance, nothing too special to see here.

alcohol injection pump, this is that small hole about 3 inches in diameter on the right side in front of the RF wheel.

another pic of alcohol injection pump, from another angle.

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Old May 13, 2007 | 04:26 PM
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I too am eagerly awaiting your dyno results. Will be great to see.

When you do the dyno, ensure that you get the A/F ratio's.

I'm also interested to see how much boost you can make.

Let us know.

Rlee, I too thought this was pie in the sky, but now you have our attention.

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Old May 24, 2007 | 01:31 PM
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Can you post another link of the sound? I can't access myspace.com from my company computer.
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Old May 24, 2007 | 01:42 PM
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Can you post another link of the sound? I can't access myspace.com from my company computer.
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Old May 24, 2007 | 03:55 PM
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Thats very interesting with the alcohol injection thing, but I don't see any claimed performance gains.
Do you expect any performance gains from the injection unit?
I'm running cooler plugs (+ASP) which seems to help.
If the injection unit could actually do something for ~ $200
I might consider it.

I think I almost bought that muffler, but held out and found
a used Remus. Is it loud as hell?

I'm confused by your video. You start the car, and it seems to be revving itself, as there's no one in the drivers seat...or is that yer dumass redneck's
truck? I would say start over. It's hard to tell what part is your car and what part is the stupid *** pickup truck.

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Old May 24, 2007 | 05:52 PM
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Thats very interesting with the alcohol injection thing, but I don't see any claimed performance gains.
Do you expect any performance gains from the injection unit?
Alcohol Injection keeps down the charge temps, it should allow the ignition to run more advance, which could result in more real world HP. On a dyno, with a cool car, the alky might not help- would be a good mod for the M271 and its overtaxed intercooler.

Nice work. Great to see people tinkering again.
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Old May 24, 2007 | 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by kompressor85
ordered ASP's crank pulley and it arrived in good condition of course, swapped it out today, and totally forgot to take step-by-step pictures of the process for a "DIY" style write up, but anyhow it pulls a lot harder at lower rpms and up top it just screams. very nice improvement, well worth the $350 it costs in the end.....
I really don't understand why everyone who has an 02 Coupe hasn't bought one of these yet. 35HP from one mod. I doesn't turn the car into a NSX killer, but it sure does reel in those RSX's, C320's and 330's in a hurry. I hung even with a BMW 545 the other day...the look on the guys face was priceless.

1st gear on the six speed cars virtually disappears, your out of it just a couple seconds after you let the clutch out.
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Old May 24, 2007 | 06:11 PM
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Okay, so what is the result??
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Old May 25, 2007 | 02:17 AM
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Originally Posted by rlee02135
funny part is i kind of believe you....
Me too!!!...... Can't wait fot the dyno.
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Old May 25, 2007 | 02:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Outland
I really don't understand why everyone who has an 02 Coupe hasn't bought one of these yet. 35HP from one mod. I doesn't turn the car into a NSX killer, but it sure does reel in those RSX's, C320's and 330's in a hurry. I hung even with a BMW 545 the other day...the look on the guys face was priceless.

1st gear on the six speed cars virtually disappears, your out of it just a couple seconds after you let the clutch out.
Ha, yeh really. It make the car so much easier to drive, low end torque at low rpm. Pulls hard in D standing still! And I haven't yet had any bad things happen (knock on wood at 107K) I mean, you don't go around WOT all the time, so it mostly increases driveability, torque and response at lower rpm.

I'm never quite sure if I get up faster in W or S.
I can take off in W and one less gear for the tranny to shift...
it seems faster when the temp is right.
Wish there was somewhere closeby to drag race my car, get some times
0-60 1/4 mile. I'm considering the Sprint booster if it will actually shave 200-500 ms off the initial response time, resulting in putting more power to the ground faster.

Anyway, already a thread on that, and I wasn't making any friends there, so better drop that. Back the subject at hand.
Awesome mods!
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Old May 25, 2007 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by hawaiian
Me too!!!...... Can't wait fot the dyno.
uhm, guys, the tri turbo thing was a joke. a nice t3/t4 setup with ceramic ball bearings would do this car so proper it'd be scary. in fact, if i kept this car for a while, i'l prolly end up doing it. turbocharging is so much better. (watch me getflamed for that one!!! haha)

EDIT: forgot to mention, i'll break open the phone book for ya'll and look up a local dyno. is there anything i'll have to do for the dyno besides take the ESP off? i'm also prolly gonna take her to the track to check out her 1/4mile times. i'll just post a picture of the time slip.

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Search on 'dyno mode'.

So if the aly ki hol injection just cools the mix,
aren't I accomplishing the same thing with cooler plugs?

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Originally Posted by C230 Sport Coup
Search on 'dyno mode'.

So if the aly ki hol injection just cools the mix,
aren't I accomplishing the same thing with cooler plugs?
No. A cooler plug just means it conducts heat away from the insulator tip better than a hot plug. Cooling the tip does help reduce detonation, but doesn't do anything to reduce the charge temp.

Cooling the charge can actually reduce the volume of air/fuel mix, meaning you get more into the cylinder on each firing...its basically the same reason we have intercoolers.
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yes... hurry up and dyno! if the results are good im wondering if something comparable can be done on the m271?
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Outland, I know me and you discussed alcohol injection before... But I had a new idea for people with the M271 and the pulley kits... If you install a methanol injection kit, you can play with the water/methanol ratio and they can actually use it to help them with their lean issues. I forget exactly how to do it, but when I was making the "juice" for the methanol for the cobra it says what creates a lean mixture and what creates a richer mixture. What do you think...

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