Dumb question about oil changes
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Dumb question about oil changes
I just bought a 2006 C230 Sport Sedan from House of Imports in Buena Park. The car has 20K on it. I see that A service at 13K includes an oil change and then the B service at 26K includes an oil change. Do you only change oil every 13K miles? That just does not seem right. Clue me in guys.
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I just bought a 2006 C230 Sport Sedan from House of Imports in Buena Park. The car has 20K on it. I see that A service at 13K includes an oil change and then the B service at 26K includes an oil change. Do you only change oil every 13K miles? That just does not seem right. Clue me in guys.
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RD,
You'll see stickies at the top that encourage new people to search the forums. Largely, this type of question gets answered again and again.
I'm answering because I'm familiar with your area. While MB says every 13k, I would get it to every 10k. While the synthetic oil has a fantastic service life, the dust in our regions is quite high. I hate the idea of my oil and filter being contaminated. I'm looking for 200k plus miles out of my C, so I get ****.
If you are keeping the car for a short time, then perhaps the 13k is the right interval for you.
Welcome aboard, and do ask questions after you have conducted a search of the forums.
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You'll see stickies at the top that encourage new people to search the forums. Largely, this type of question gets answered again and again.
I'm answering because I'm familiar with your area. While MB says every 13k, I would get it to every 10k. While the synthetic oil has a fantastic service life, the dust in our regions is quite high. I hate the idea of my oil and filter being contaminated. I'm looking for 200k plus miles out of my C, so I get ****.
If you are keeping the car for a short time, then perhaps the 13k is the right interval for you.
Welcome aboard, and do ask questions after you have conducted a search of the forums.
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Oil changes....
Yes, the use of a well designed engine and mobil-1 leaves pretty long intervals that mercedes recommends. I know I did a mid-point oil change when my car was new, because there would have been >10k miles on a new engine before the first change. My dealer strongly recommended I don't waste my time (not that I let them rape me for the service), but I wasn't going to go that long on the first change.
since then, most of us have no complaints about the long intervals (as far as I can tell).
since then, most of us have no complaints about the long intervals (as far as I can tell).
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I appreciate your reply and I will use the search feature. I don't mind being told to Search The Forum as you have graciously done....but I do mind being told to Search The F>>> Forum.
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The service interval is 13,000 miles or one year, whichever comes first. The additive package in the specified oil, Mobil 1 0W-40, begins to degrade when first used, and at the end of a year it is not suitable for continued protection.
You must also use the specified fleece oil filter. The filter and oil are a designed system to supress sludge formation.
If you have an AMG vehicle, the change specification is 10,000 miles/1 year for most recent versions.
I know quick change oil shops swear 3,000 miles is the limit, but they are selling parafin based oils (Dino{saur} juice according to one vey smart moose) and seeking more business.
I think it is false economy to change oil more often than specified. Mobil 1 has a history of engines running 250,000 miles with virtually no wear. I don't change my tires at 50%, or brakes at 80%, so I wait until the service interval is reached before sucking 8 quarts of oil out of the engine.
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You must also use the specified fleece oil filter. The filter and oil are a designed system to supress sludge formation.
If you have an AMG vehicle, the change specification is 10,000 miles/1 year for most recent versions.
I know quick change oil shops swear 3,000 miles is the limit, but they are selling parafin based oils (Dino{saur} juice according to one vey smart moose) and seeking more business.
I think it is false economy to change oil more often than specified. Mobil 1 has a history of engines running 250,000 miles with virtually no wear. I don't change my tires at 50%, or brakes at 80%, so I wait until the service interval is reached before sucking 8 quarts of oil out of the engine.
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The is the KEY to the whole deal. 6cyl engine, make sure its fleece. There is NO, is no fleece filter for the M271 4cyl supercharged engine. Its paper. Even with the 0w-40 Mobil 1 it does you no good. Its total sham in my book by MB, got people thinking they should go 13k b4 changing oil. I change my 271 4cyl every 5k w/ 0w-40 mobil 1.
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Thanks! I guess I probably over reacted a bit.
I'm hoping to learn lots from all you guys here and to thoroughly enjoy my new car. I have learned lots from the Corvetteforum for my vette (been on that forum for many years) and it is a wealth of knowledge. I suspect that is the same case here.
It has been interesting looking under the hood of the C230....it is quite a bit different from my Vette. I'm still trying to figure out how to check the oil level. Have not found a dipstick (I only took a quick look).
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Can anyone verifiy the non-existence of a fleece oil filter for the M271? I was in horror when I looked at my Service A receipt and noticed that the dealer put in a paper oil filter...I'm planning to do my own Service B and haven't been able to find a fleece oil filter for the 1.8L engine either, just want to make sure with other memebers here that there is indeed no fleece oil filter for the M271, thanks!
btw, I have a 2005 C230 SS.
btw, I have a 2005 C230 SS.
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Imagine my shock when on the last oil change I let the dealer do. they mark the invoice w/ 8 Qts of oil...WTF?!?! I ask them, you put 8 qts in? "yes sir"...you sure "yes sir".....me: Soooo explain to me why the manual clearly says 5.8 qts of oil for this car and then explain to your store manager/owner how you plan to put me in another vehicle since you put the engine in this one in jeopardy. The look on his face was priceless. So after he went off to check, I hopped in, went into dyno mode and saw the level was fine. He came back saying it was typo. I told him to prove it. He said they could drain and refill. I then let him off the hook. Last time the dealer has seen my car for an oil change.
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Imagine my shock when on the last oil change I let the dealer do. they mark the invoice w/ 8 Qts of oil...WTF?!?! I ask them, you put 8 qts in? "yes sir"...you sure "yes sir".....me: Soooo explain to me why the manual clearly says 5.8 qts of oil for this car and then explain to your store manager/owner how you plan to put me in another vehicle since you put the engine in this one in jeopardy. The look on his face was priceless. So after he went off to check, I hopped in, went into dyno mode and saw the level was fine. He came back saying it was typo. I told him to prove it. He said they could drain and refill. I then let him off the hook. Last time the dealer has seen my car for an oil change.
. Too bad I can't expect the same reaction when I pull in for my Service A in a couple weeks 
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It's on the back side of the engine, by the firewall.
The M272 engine family - 4 valves and one sparkplug per cylinder - all have engine oil dipsticks (2.5L, 3.0L, and 3.5L), and no menu readout.
I've personally seen the 2.5L and 3.5L engines, and their sticks.
The M112 engines - 3 valves and 2 sparkplus per cylinder - do not have an engine oil dipstick; just the menu readout.
Same for the M271 engine - 1.8L Kompressor.
I think 13k is too long between oil changes, so I change mine every 5k, plus the fleece oil filter.
