Rough idle after driving.every time P0302 (cylinder 2 misfire)any idea Please
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Rough idle after driving.every time P0302 (cylinder 2 misfire)any idea Please
My car is 2003 c230 with about 90k .My engine light came on and the car started idling roughly. I checked the codes and it reported a p-0302 (cylinder 2 misfire). Restarting the car cleared the rough idle, with the CEL still on (occasionally it will go through a drive cycle and clear the CEL, but only every once in awhile). So far I changed all four spark plugs . I swapped the coils between cylinder 2 and 3 to see if the problem followed the coil, it did not. I replaced the fuel filter (thought maybe the #2 injector was more sensitive then the others.)
I did this work over the course of the past two months, and the only code that was logged was The p-0302. This code was only logged at idle (the misfire never occurs under high rpm's/loads) and more prevalent after being on the highway and coming to a stop at a light shortly after exiting.I saw other people complain the same thing with the same car but I never heard what is happening finally to fix the issue .could you please let me know what is the problem ,(sensor ,fule injector ….)
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I did this work over the course of the past two months, and the only code that was logged was The p-0302. This code was only logged at idle (the misfire never occurs under high rpm's/loads) and more prevalent after being on the highway and coming to a stop at a light shortly after exiting.I saw other people complain the same thing with the same car but I never heard what is happening finally to fix the issue .could you please let me know what is the problem ,(sensor ,fule injector ….)
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I just had this problem last week. Same codes, come to find out it was the plug wires or something like that. Damn things cost me a total of 400$ Hope this isnt your case, but i would try the plug wires and anything electrical in that area.
Sorry for the lack of techinal definition - But i hope this helps, i will run out to the car and get the repair report after lunch to see if i find anymore information.
Sorry for the lack of techinal definition - But i hope this helps, i will run out to the car and get the repair report after lunch to see if i find anymore information.
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MAF, yet usually you get other codes like 017X indicating running rich.
Spray the MAF with some electronic contact cleaner and see if that helps, if it does, then time to start saving the $350 for a new MAF.
A dirty MAF will work well when hot, so if the rough idle is mostly at startup I bet its the mAF. After highway driving, no clue.
You're at about the mileage when the MAF is due to be replaced.
Spray the MAF with some electronic contact cleaner and see if that helps, if it does, then time to start saving the $350 for a new MAF.
A dirty MAF will work well when hot, so if the rough idle is mostly at startup I bet its the mAF. After highway driving, no clue.
You're at about the mileage when the MAF is due to be replaced.
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Thanks guys for your fast reply .MAF is not important at this point because I just have misfire in one cylinder.any one here has a access to DTB.I've just read some stuff in service manual about some defective engine that need to be fix if customer complain .I do not know my engine is part of that or not .this is my engine number :27194810067654 (you guys know this as a 217.948 ) as you know mercedes solve some problem step by step for this engine .My question is :this kind of stuff fixed in this engine or not .I really appriciate if somebody can give me some information about this as well.
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We had a similar problem in one of the MLs: rough idle with a misfire code. Turned out to be the coil pack. Could also be the plug wires, which we replaced just to be on the safe side.
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I changed all four spark plugs . I swapped the coils between cylinder 2 and 3 and also 2 and 4 after to see if the problem followed the coil, it did not. there is no wire between coil and spark plug .what is primary wire?
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Has your gas mileage gone to hell? I put money on its the MAF, and a quick spray with some cleaner wouldn't hurt to try and take 5 mins.
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i still think my gas miles suck. But coming from a ITR, you can imagin why. Been riding the CBR all week. a whopping 36mpg!
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Im glad I stumbled upon this thread I also have the same problem, I have 93k miles and its a misfire in cylinder 3 they said it was carbon build up in the exhaust valve and said I needed a head job and quoted me $3,000 to do it, I'm not to sure its carbon build up I think it could be the MAF like other members have stated. I hope you find a solution so I could as well know how to fix this problem.I was also thinking of taking it to an independent Mercedes shop to get a second opinion on things
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Im glad I stumbled upon this thread I also have the same problem, I have 93k miles and its a misfire in cylinder 3 they said it was carbon build up in the exhaust valve and said I needed a head job and quoted me $3,000 to do it, I'm not to sure its carbon build up I think it could be the MAF like other members have stated. I hope you find a solution so I could as well know how to fix this problem.I was also thinking of taking it to an independent Mercedes shop to get a second opinion on things
You need to get out, run that sucker in hi rpm's, long trip etc.
blow the carbon out. 3 grand? ha.
Take a long trip, or spirited run somewhere.
Extended long rpm's seem to work best.
Drive on the freeway, perhaps downshift, and keep it at or just above 4K rpm .
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In regards to the P0302 code, I find it hard to beleive it's not the
coil pack.
Oddly enough, it seems the 2nd cylinder seems most prone to misfire.
Both times mine went it was #2.
If your car has 90K miles, it's likely that all the coil packs are marginal.
It's possible that putting a cp with 90K miles from another
cyl. still throws a code.
CP's are 30 bucks online. Maybe worth it to try replacing it?
Just a thought. M111 seems to have fairly common issue with these CP's.
coil pack.
Oddly enough, it seems the 2nd cylinder seems most prone to misfire.
Both times mine went it was #2.
If your car has 90K miles, it's likely that all the coil packs are marginal.
It's possible that putting a cp with 90K miles from another
cyl. still throws a code.
CP's are 30 bucks online. Maybe worth it to try replacing it?
Just a thought. M111 seems to have fairly common issue with these CP's.
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Ever heard of an Italian Tune up?
You need to get out, run that sucker in hi rpm's, long trip etc.
blow the carbon out. 3 grand? ha.
Take a long trip, or spirited run somewhere.
Extended long rpm's seem to work best.
Drive on the freeway, perhaps downshift, and keep it at or just above 4K rpm .
You need to get out, run that sucker in hi rpm's, long trip etc.
blow the carbon out. 3 grand? ha.
Take a long trip, or spirited run somewhere.
Extended long rpm's seem to work best.
Drive on the freeway, perhaps downshift, and keep it at or just above 4K rpm .
I'm going to go and take it to another shop and get a second opinion and suggest they change the coil pack?
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Mine is still under waranty even for CP so I rather they do it and replace .I will let you guys know what is happening.I think the peroblem is some how with valve guide and these things .I 've heard new valve is smaller to prevent this kind of sticky problem on M271
