Resonator??
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from what I hear, the res only makes it lower, and the wy the eisenmann makes it sound...it wont be ricey....believe me....but I can always just post in 3 days to tell you this same info. Ronce has an aftermarket with res delete, and his souns like a friggin racecar, a littttttle too loud for me, however not ricey, just racey.
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The motor runs great without the resonator. Plus it drops maybe 20 lbs. But it's no turbo or anything. I can't imagine it adds much HP, maybe a couple if any. No dyno. I might have it dyno'd when I do the ECU and headers. That would be interesting.
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mine: '01 C240 w/heavy modifications dad's: '05 997 Carrera S
getting my car back from eurorev and Im gunna run it over and delete the cat at AAA exhaust...so i dont know what it sounds like YET...ill know in like 2days tops and post here...and as soon as i get that new-fangled youtube figured out i may post a vid.
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I was actually considering getting custom cat-back piping made, but I don't think it's necessary for the 230K (m271).
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I went with the stock size pipe, 2 1/2" inside. I think you are right, bigger (in this instance) is not always better. Good cylinder filling and emptying (as well as scavenging) has more to do with the velocity of the charge and not the volume of the charge of air that is moving through. Exhaust pipes that are too big can hurt back pressure and kill any scavenging after the exhaust valve(s) open. I think you really want the size and shape that will produce maximum velocity so more air packs in and is drawn out on the exhaust stroke.
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I went with the stock size pipe, 2 1/2" inside. I think you are right, bigger (in this instance) is not always better. Good cylinder filling and emptying (as well as scavenging) has more to do with the velocity of the charge and not the volume of the charge of air that is moving through. Exhaust pipes that are too big can hurt back pressure and kill any scavenging after the exhaust valve(s) open. I think you really want the size and shape that will produce maximum velocity so more air packs in and is drawn out on the exhaust stroke.
But, in all seriousness, yes that's similar to what I've learned over the years. Considering the stock piping is somewhere between 2.5-2.75 on the 230k ss, I'm very pleased with how it responds, especially with the Kleemann Trap muffler.
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Hahaha...sounds like a porno!...
But, in all seriousness, yes that's similar to what I've learned over the years. Considering the stock piping is somewhere between 2.5-2.75 on the 230k ss, I'm very pleased with how it responds, especially with the Kleemann Trap muffler.
But, in all seriousness, yes that's similar to what I've learned over the years. Considering the stock piping is somewhere between 2.5-2.75 on the 230k ss, I'm very pleased with how it responds, especially with the Kleemann Trap muffler.
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That looks about the same size piping that is on my 07 C230. 1st thought I had, was that piping is too damn big for a small 2.5L motor. When I get a chance, I'll put a micrometer on it and measure the diameter.
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All this thread needs is a cheesy sound-track. But I tell ya, all this talk of great sounding mufflers, when (if ever) will there be a few options for the 3.5L W203?!? I have found over a dozen that say they fit the C230, C240, C320 and C32 and maybe one that says it will specifically fit the C350. Anyone know of a good sounding muffler that will definitely fit?
I think it was the best decision I ever could've made picking the Kleemann muffler. Very deep sound, don't need to take off the resonator and is a pretty straight through design. And I love the trapezoid tip because it's unique compared to the others.
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He said he put in 3 inch piping, so he's got custom piping. As far as I know (unless they changed it), stock piping is somewhere between 2.5-2.75 stock on the w203 (I think sport models, but may be across the board).
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Well...I said screw it and decided I could always get the resonator put back on. I can tell a difference when driving; the sound is more present. In the before and after videos I took, there's not much difference. If anything, it removed some weight.
before
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENqf3jGRxkM
after
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueKZzzHDIog
before
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENqf3jGRxkM
after
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueKZzzHDIog
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Well...I said screw it and decided I could always get the resonator put back on. I can tell a difference when driving; the sound is more present. In the before and after videos I took, there's not much difference. If anything, it removed some weight.
before
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENqf3jGRxkM
after
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueKZzzHDIog
before
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENqf3jGRxkM
after
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueKZzzHDIog
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Fortunately for me, I acheived this type of sound with my Kleemann muffler on my 230KSS w/o removing the resonator.
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I know this thread is way old and buried but I just did a res. delete today....and I guess I'm one of those people that don't notice a difference...but some people say they notice slight droning in the cabin (not annoying though). I was wondering...is there a video/sound clip of the M271 motor with secondary cat delete that advans mentioned?
